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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Dwailing wrote...

Corik wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

With any luck we'll have EC before the end of July. I can only hope.


I hope they don't screw my birthday (July 27) with a poor and bad EC...


Have a little faith.  This is Bioware we're talking about here.  If anyone could pull this off, it's them.

Edit: Also, I'm watching the extended demo of Black Ops 2, and I actually think I might buy this one.  It actually looks kind of cool.

Or Quantic Dreams (see Fahrenheit/Indigo Prophecy's ending). Posted Image 

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Reaper logic in a nutshell:


Harby: 'Why resist us? We preserve every important aspect of the civilisations we harvest.'

Shep: 'You just build a statue shaped like a grotesque abomination of one of their individuals inside the new reaper. That's not "preserving a civilisation"'

Harby: 'But we build it out of the liquefied remains of their molten bodies.'

Shep: 'How does that help? That makes it even worse!'

Harby: 'Anyway, it's still absolutely necessary to do it every 50 000 years or synthetics will wipe out not just the peak of the evolved organics, but all organics indiscriminately.'

Shep: 'So you synthetics destroy organics to prevent organics from developing synthetics that destroy organics? What if a cycle only takes 49 000 years to develop such omnicidal robots? What if they don't develop dangerous synthetics at all?'

Harby: 'Given enough time, every possibility that can happen, will happen.'

Shep: 'So the possibility that synthetics destroy all life before the heat-death of the universe is actually just as likely to happen as the option that synthetics live peacefully along living beings, right? I mean it can happen and given unlimited amounts of time will happen, right?'

Starchild: Wanna somehow turn every living being in the universe indiscriminately into a cyborg and also every artificial intelligence into a partly living being? By the way, a ship that's somewhere else will be in another place where it will explode for some reason. Also: say goodbye to all mass relays.'

Shep: 'Kthxbye, wohooooooooo-'

*BzZZzZzppp*

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Turbo_J wrote...

Maybe ME3 is all in a memory shard and whoever is holding it is the new protagonist of ME4... lol


I actually suggested something similar;

Should ME4 take place after the events of ME3(unlikely based on final hours app) Bioware can bring this very indoctrination conversation and debate into Mass Effect 4.

Based on your gamesave data, some characters will argue that Shepard is a hero, others will argue that he was indoctrinated and a servant of the Repears. By doing this Bioware can continue the story without revealling the truth.

End result: SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE

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bigstig wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Maybe ME3 is all in a memory shard and whoever is holding it is the new protagonist of ME4... lol


I actually suggested something similar;

Should ME4 take place after the events of ME3(unlikely based on final hours app) Bioware can bring this very indoctrination conversation and debate into Mass Effect 4.

Based on your gamesave data, some characters will argue that Shepard is a hero, others will argue that he was indoctrinated and a servant of the Repears. By doing this Bioware can continue the story without revealling the truth.

End result: SPECULATION FOR EVERYONE

I also think it would be a wise choice for BioWare to hold back reavealing IT until Mass Effect 4 and develop a full game with tens of hours of gameplay. Though it'd upset people who want answers now.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 02:45 .


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I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

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Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P


And they could all watch Francis Kit's award winning movie of Shepard's life with an all Elcor cast! =]

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@Dwailing: "Carnipredifexator" Still makes me smile every time I think about it. :)

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Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 02:55 .


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Big G13 wrote...

@Dwailing: "Carnipredifexator" Still makes me smile every time I think about it. :)


Aw, now I feel all warm and fuzzy inside. :D  Thanks!

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paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

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Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

Sure. Posted Image Indigestion for everyone!

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 02:58 .


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paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

Sure. Posted Image Indigestion for everyone!


I'm thinking... I don't care about EC. That's going to be canon for me! xDDD

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[quote]paxxton wrote...

[quote]Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P[/quote]
LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious. [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/andy.png[/smilie]

And deep fried nanides.:P

Modifié par Big G13, 05 juin 2012 - 03:00 .


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paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

Sure. Posted Image Indigestion for everyone!


That's not all that would come from having a party next to a dead reaper....

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

Sure. Posted Image Indigestion for everyone!


That's not all that would come from having a party next to a dead reaper....

Intoxication without beer. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 03:01 .


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So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?

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Rosewind wrote...

So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?

Yes, Ray Muzyka was talking about Star Wars. Posted Image Only about it.

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Rosewind wrote...

So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?


I was watching on Spike TV.  All Bioware talked about was Star Wars: The Old Republic.  There was nothing about ME at all.  I would have at least thought that they'd announce SOMETHING about ME, EC or not.

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Dwailing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?


I was watching on Spike TV.  All Bioware talked about was Star Wars: The Old Republic.  There was nothing about ME at all.  I would have at least thought that they'd announce SOMETHING about ME, EC or not.


And of course, Linkin Park attached a song to a game....Medal Of Honour. Ah the irony.

But nah, didn't they state several times they weren't gonna talk about it?

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That's the thing that confuses me about him, even if you take things at face value you have to ask "why"? Why does he "preserve" oganics anyway? What does he care if synthetics kill us all? He IS synthetic is he not? Wouldn't it actually be much easier to just come in and scold anyone who makes a sentient AI?

Even at face value there must be a reason they want to keep organics around, and for some reason I don't think it's "cause they actually care about our well being.....


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Reapers reap... they don't "preserve".


That image is disturbing as hell? Is it an ingame thing or somegthing fan made

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

I don't want speculation... I want a damn good ending like we had in ME1 and ME2. Nothing special... just Shepard being as awesome as he is, and humanity destroying the reapers... And some personal story after that... shep with his friends and LI having a bbq in Shepard's home back on Earth, just next to a dead reaper xD... for example. :P

LOL. Reaper tentacles with ketchup. Delicious.


You have to admit it would be an awesome party!

Sure. Posted Image Indigestion for everyone!


That's not all that would come from having a party next to a dead reaper....

Intoxication without beer. Posted Image


Remeber the the three I's
  • Indoctrination,
  • Intoxication,
  • Incantation.


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bigstig wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

That's the thing that confuses me about him, even if you take things at face value you have to ask "why"? Why does he "preserve" oganics anyway? What does he care if synthetics kill us all? He IS synthetic is he not? Wouldn't it actually be much easier to just come in and scold anyone who makes a sentient AI?

Even at face value there must be a reason they want to keep organics around, and for some reason I don't think it's "cause they actually care about our well being.....


Posted Image 


Reapers reap... they don't "preserve".


That image is disturbing as hell? Is it an ingame thing or somegthing fan made


It's from the retake earth trailer before the release of ME3.

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SS2Dante wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?


I was watching on Spike TV.  All Bioware talked about was Star Wars: The Old Republic.  There was nothing about ME at all.  I would have at least thought that they'd announce SOMETHING about ME, EC or not.


And of course, Linkin Park attached a song to a game....Medal Of Honour. Ah the irony.

But nah, didn't they state several times they weren't gonna talk about it?


Sorry ignore that I was teasing Pax lol

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SS2Dante wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

So Pax.... did they mention anything at E3 or what ever it was?


I was watching on Spike TV.  All Bioware talked about was Star Wars: The Old Republic.  There was nothing about ME at all.  I would have at least thought that they'd announce SOMETHING about ME, EC or not.


And of course, Linkin Park attached a song to a game....Medal Of Honour. Ah the irony.

But nah, didn't they state several times they weren't gonna talk about it?


The way I heard it they only said they weren't going to talk about the EC.  At this point, I'd just settle for info on Retake Omega or something else in that vein.

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Silent Rogue wrote...

bigstig wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

That's the thing that confuses me about him, even if you take things at face value you have to ask "why"? Why does he "preserve" oganics anyway? What does he care if synthetics kill us all? He IS synthetic is he not? Wouldn't it actually be much easier to just come in and scold anyone who makes a sentient AI?

Even at face value there must be a reason they want to keep organics around, and for some reason I don't think it's "cause they actually care about our well being.....


Posted Image 


Reapers reap... they don't "preserve".


That image is disturbing as hell? Is it an ingame thing or somegthing fan made


It's from the retake earth trailer before the release of ME3.


That little blonde girl in the video clip is the most freaking looking child I have ever seen......

Edit: YAY For Grammer!!!

Modifié par Rosewind, 05 juin 2012 - 03:17 .