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[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


Son of a... Dude!  That's awesome!  This is great!  I'd like to hear what the anti-ITers have to say about this.  And, for when they see this, I have a challenge for them.  Don't blame it on bad writting, don't blame it on bugs or glitches, and don't just dismiss it.  Actually provide a reason for WHY there are no birds in Synthesis and Control.

You know as well as I do that pro-enders and anti-ITers cant do that for over half of our evidence. <_<

They would say it's a glitch, lighting or textures. Besides, they can always say they don't see any birds in Destroy.

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 07:20 .

[HellishFiend]

Rain_JDS wrote...

Can anyone tell me a better site for uploading pictures?
I could provide more pictures - concerning my other questions aswell- but the size is terrible with photobucket..

Edit: Really?? I had no birds in Synthesis.

I use imageshack. 

[Rain_JDS]

ivenoidea wrote...

Synthesis does have birds at 4:09 while the others dont. www.youtube.com/watch

for comparison:

www.youtube.com/watch

(control 4:21)

Hm...

 I didn't get them..

[Dwailing]

Well, I can say this much. I just watched the Synthesis and Destroy endings. I didn't see the flock up by the mountain, but if you look between the fins on the Normandy, you can see little birds flying. It looked like there were more of them in Destroy than Synthesis, but I could be mistaken.

[GethPrimeMKII]

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Well, I have some pictures. If I get it to work.
Control:

Synthesis:

Destroy:


Hope it works.. Photobucket has resized them I hope it's okay to see.

Son of a... Dude!  That's awesome!  This is great!  I'd like to hear what the anti-ITers have to say about this.  And, for when they see this, I have a challenge for them.  Don't blame it on bad writting, don't blame it on bugs or glitches, and don't just dismiss it.  Actually provide a reason for WHY there are no birds in Synthesis and Control.

Edit: If anyone's looking for the birds.  Look right above the right fin on the Normandy.  In Destroy, there's a flock of birds there, in Synthesis and Control, there are no birds.

Do you see the planets in the sky? This is the same planet Stargazer is standing on in the last scene.

Similar, yes. But I am not convinced they are the same.

EDIT**

Upon closer inspection I can see the moon off to the right side of the picture. Maybe it is the same planet as the Normandy crash and if it is perhaps the stargazer scene is just Spepard imagining herself as a legend and people many years later retelling her story.

Modifié par GethPrimeMKII, 05 juin 2012 - 07:26 .

[Dwailing]

Rain_JDS wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Synthesis does have birds at 4:09 while the others dont. www.youtube.com/watch

for comparison:

www.youtube.com/watch

(control 4:21)

Hm...

 I didn't get them..

What was your EMS?

[Rain_JDS]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Can anyone tell me a better site for uploading pictures?
I could provide more pictures - concerning my other questions aswell- but the size is terrible with photobucket..

Edit: Really?? I had no birds in Synthesis.

I use imageshack. 

Thanks.. I'll check it out..

@Dwailing: around 7500

Modifié par Rain_JDS, 05 juin 2012 - 07:23 .

[MaximizedAction]

Rain_JDS wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Synthesis does have birds at 4:09 while the others dont. www.youtube.com/watch

for comparison:

www.youtube.com/watch

(control 4:21)

Hm...

 I didn't get them..

Reminded me: but you did get a third squadmate right behind the bushes (not visible in this picture). Did we interpret that, already?

BTW, nice find with the birds, Rain_JDC!

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 05 juin 2012 - 07:22 .

[Unschuld]

ivenoidea wrote...

Synthesis does have birds at 4:09 while the others dont. www.youtube.com/watch

for comparison:

www.youtube.com/watch

(control 4:21)


www.youtube.com/watch

(destroy 4:16)

edit: something is fishy here... why is edit not there in control?

I dunno, I just watched the three endings and this is looking like bunk.

[HellishFiend]

 Upon closer examination, the birds appear to be randomly placed. Here are the birds at a different location at the same moment in a breath-scene Destroy ending:




They are directly above the hull of the ship.

Modifié par HellishFiend, 05 juin 2012 - 07:24 .

[BleedingUranium]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Just noticed something... Is it just me, or does Starbinger look almost corporeal at a certain point in the Control ending?

Truly "choreographed down to the second".

You see! How much good Control does. It even brings that poor boy who died because of Shepard back from the dead.

Wow, the train noises are obvious! Also, you can see him turn into the "real" kid as soon as Shep first grabs the thingy.

If there's this in Control, and the Predator in Destroy, what small thing are we missing in Synthesis?

[Rain_JDS]

Ah well.. I'll maybe check it out with another Shepard again, later..

[dreamgazer]

Weird. Curious question for more data-minded individuals: are randomly-generated elements, like periphery birds, potentially indicative of an interactive environment?

[HellishFiend]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Wow, the train noises are obvious! Also, you can see him turn into the "real" kid as soon as Shep first grabs the thingy.

If there's this in Control, and the Predator in Destroy, what small thing are we missing in Synthesis?

Good question. The sad thing is I noticed the train sounds (at least the Horn part anyway) when I initially picked control on my first playthrough, but I dismissed it as if I was just hearing things. 

I'm not sure what we could be missing in Synthesis. Unlike Control and Destroy, its a fairly straightforward beast. Shepard leaps into the beam, huskifies, and disintegrates...

[paxxton]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you see the planets in the sky? This is the same planet Stargazer is standing on in the last scene.

Similar, yes. But I am not convinced they are the same.

The bodies in the sky are the same as those in the Paradise planet scene, just a different time of day (night) and year (winter).

[HellishFiend]

dreamgazer wrote...

Weird. Curious question for more data-minded individuals: are randomly-generated elements, like periphery birds, potentially indicative of an interactive environment?

Well, the Normandy crash is actively rendered. Any actively rendered scene can contain randomly placed elements, if coded to do so. It doesnt necessarily mean player control will be available at any time. 

[Dwailing]

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Wow, the train noises are obvious! Also, you can see him turn into the "real" kid as soon as Shep first grabs the thingy.

If there's this in Control, and the Predator in Destroy, what small thing are we missing in Synthesis?

Good question. The sad thing is I noticed the train sounds (at least the Horn part anyway) when I initially picked control on my first playthrough, but I dismissed it as if I was just hearing things. 

I'm not sure what we could be missing in Synthesis. Unlike Control and Destroy, its a fairly straightforward beast. Shepard leaps into the beam, huskifies, and disintegrates...

I'm just trying to figure why there are the circuit board patterns on everyone.  I mean, if the synthesis was based on Shep's combination of organic and synthetic components, then why are they MUCH more noticeable on EVERYONE after the green explosion.

[GethPrimeMKII]

paxxton wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you see the planets in the sky? This is the same planet Stargazer is standing on in the last scene.

Similar, yes. But I am not convinced they are the same.

The bodies in the sky are the same as those in the Paradise planet scene, just a different time of day (night) and year (winter).

Yeah I noticed. What do you think of the possibility that this scene is also part of the dream? Just Shepard imaginng herself as a legend many years later?

[GethPrimeMKII]

paxxton wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Do you see the planets in the sky? This is the same planet Stargazer is standing on in the last scene.

Similar, yes. But I am not convinced they are the same.

The bodies in the sky are the same as those in the Paradise planet scene, just a different time of day (night) and year (winter).

Yeah I noticed. What do you think of the possibility that this scene is also part of the dream? Just Shepard imaginng herself as a legend many years later?

[GethPrimeMKII]

Sorry double post. Computer and forum being stupid.

[Unschuld]

MaximizedAction wrote...
Reminded me: but you did get a third squadmate right behind the bushes (not visible in this picture). Did we interpret that, already?

BTW, nice find with the birds, Rain_JDC!

I'm inclined to think that the birds relate to EMS... not sure, since I've seen them in all endings so far but control.

But SERIOUSLY holy CRAP! I just saw that "extra squadmate"! Looks like a turian, but Garrus is hopping out of the Normandy... maybe Saren? lol

[HellishFiend]

Dwailing wrote...

I'm just trying to figure why there are the circuit board patterns on everyone.  I mean, if the synthesis was based on Shep's combination of organic and synthetic components, then why are they MUCH more noticeable on EVERYONE after the green explosion.

The Synthesis ending is bogus no matter how you look at it. There are so many things wrong with it, walls of text can be borne from them. Every organic or synthetic appears to get luminescent lines of code that magically flow across their body. That would be an unreasonable stretch in any science fiction storyline. 

[Rain_JDS]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Synthesis does have birds at 4:09 while the others dont. www.youtube.com/watch

for comparison:

www.youtube.com/watch

(control 4:21)

Hm...

 I didn't get them..

Reminded me: but you did get a third squadmate right behind the bushes (not visible in this picture). Did we interpret that, already?

BTW, nice find with the birds, Rain_JDC!

Huh.. I can see Javik pretty well in this picture.. Or what are you talking about?

Modifié par Rain_JDS, 05 juin 2012 - 07:34 .

[HellishFiend]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

Yeah I noticed. What do you think of the possibility that this scene is also part of the dream? Just Shepard imaginng herself as a legend many years later?

I doubt it. I think the Stargazer scene is a message to the players from Bioware. 

[Unschuld]

Rain_JDS wrote...

Ah well.. I'll maybe check it out with another Shepard again, later..

No hard feelings, and I give you credit for looking. Even if this turns out to be bunk, don't let it stop you. You may find other things that have been glossed over by the rest of us.