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Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..


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I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...

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HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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Those are rather descendants of those who crashed in the Normandy.

The whole scene is an Easter Egg (it plays after the credits) with possibly reused assets.


Youre assuming that what the face value of the scene implies is actually the case. I'm surprised you would be so quick to come to that conclusion, considering you believe IT, which is essentially refusing to take what we see at face value. 

Have you seen Inception? The dream is real when you're dreaming.


I havent seen it yet, actually. In any case, I stand by my interpretation of the Stargazer scene. 


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?

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What? You have to watch it. I hope my remark didn't give away anything important.

What is your interpretation?


http://social.biowar...ndex/12200743/1 

I read that back when you posted it and I agree.

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 

In addition, the DLC message says nothing about telling another story about "The Shepard".

Modifié par HellishFiend, 05 juin 2012 - 07:55 .


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Unschuld wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..


Posted Image

I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...




Whoop, and there go the birds :blush:

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paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

What? You have to watch it. I hope my remark didn't give away anything important.

What is your interpretation?


http://social.biowar...ndex/12200743/1 

I read that back when you posted it and I agree.


Thanks. :)

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Dwailing wrote...

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Huh.. I can see Javik pretty well in this picture.. :huh: Or what are you talking about?


Look at this video.

It happens in a split second when the camera snaps away from Joker/EDI hugging, but there's a fourth character in scene that walks behind a bush as the third steps out of the Normandy. You need to be looking in the right place at the right time. And I can say without a doubt that it's a Turian, and not Garrus since he's stepping off the ship.


What are you talking about?  There's no one HOLY ****!!!!!


Check on the lower left bushes. Just as the camera shows the normandy and garrus stepping out.


I know.  That was the HOLY **** moment.


Hehehe. If anyone has problems, check this

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GethPrimeMKII wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those are rather descendants of those who crashed in the Normandy.

The whole scene is an Easter Egg (it plays after the credits) with possibly reused assets.


Youre assuming that what the face value of the scene implies is actually the case. I'm surprised you would be so quick to come to that conclusion, considering you believe IT, which is essentially refusing to take what we see at face value. 

Have you seen Inception? The dream is real when you're dreaming.


I havent seen it yet, actually. In any case, I stand by my interpretation of the Stargazer scene. 


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?

The message is for people who don't read between lines. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 05 juin 2012 - 07:57 .


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Unschuld wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..



I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...




Yup. Just proved myself wrong. Saw another Synth video and it was Kaidan going behind the bushes. Case closed.

Corik wrote...

Hehehe. If anyone has problems, check this 

 
Nope, it's nothing. Just another random squadmate. Sorry for getting hopes up.

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HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 


Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.

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Unschuld wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..



I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...




Yup. Just proved myself wrong. Saw another Synth video and it was Kaidan going behind the bushes. Case closed.

Corik wrote...

Hehehe. If anyone has problems, check this 

 
Nope, it's nothing. Just another random squadmate. Sorry for getting hopes up.


I'm fairly sure we've talked about the person going behind the bushes before. Either in this thread or the original.

I'm pretty sure I saw screenshots showing Liara as the one going behind the bushes too.

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byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 


Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.


Yes, I do think that, and to top it off, most people are violently angry at that point, and are no longer paying much attention...

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byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 


Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.


I know, right?  On an unrelated note, is anyone else wishing that BW would release a pack for single-player that would have all the multi-player only weapons?  I really want to get that Krysae in single-player.  Based on what I've seen, it's a beast.

Modifié par Dwailing, 05 juin 2012 - 08:02 .


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byne wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..



I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...




Yup. Just proved myself wrong. Saw another Synth video and it was Kaidan going behind the bushes. Case closed.

Corik wrote...

Hehehe. If anyone has problems, check this 

 
Nope, it's nothing. Just another random squadmate. Sorry for getting hopes up.


I'm fairly sure we've talked about the person going behind the bushes before. Either in this thread or the original.

I'm pretty sure I saw screenshots showing Liara as the one going behind the bushes too.


The result being...?

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byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 


Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.

One more story could mean a prequel or something in between 1 and 2 or 2 and 3. A different story than the one just told.

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byne wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Rain_JDS wrote...

Oh, I saw it.. Yes there is another member.. I have Ashley..



I finally got a frame of it. Can't really tell looking closer now, could be Javik. Oh well...




Yup. Just proved myself wrong. Saw another Synth video and it was Kaidan going behind the bushes. Case closed.

Corik wrote...

Hehehe. If anyone has problems, check this 

 
Nope, it's nothing. Just another random squadmate. Sorry for getting hopes up.


I'm fairly sure we've talked about the person going behind the bushes before. Either in this thread or the original.

I'm pretty sure I saw screenshots showing Liara as the one going behind the bushes too.


Wait, could it be Shep's love interest?

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In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.

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In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.


Wait, I know this one!  Bad writing!  No no wait, glitches!  No wait, I know this, SPACE MAGIC:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:!!!!

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Dwailing wrote...

Corik wrote...

In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.


Wait, I know this one!  Bad writing!  No no wait, glitches!  No wait, I know this, SPACE MAGIC:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:!!!!


Ah yes, Posted Image"Space Magic", we have dismissed that claim. 

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HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Corik wrote...

In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.


Wait, I know this one!  Bad writing!  No no wait, glitches!  No wait, I know this, SPACE MAGIC:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:!!!!


Ah yes, Posted Image"Space Magic", we have dismissed that claim. 


That is, without a doubt, one of the coolest things I've seen all day.

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Dwailing wrote...

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


I read your views on the stargzer scene and your ideas intrigue me. One question though. Whats the point of the message at the end telling you theres more to come and to buy more DLC if the star gazer scene pretty much does that already?


Because it's not obvious (hell, it took nearly 3 months for someone to finally come up with the idea that it's a message to the players, after all), and they needed to put something there instead of just dumping you back on the bridge of the Normandy. 


Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.


I know, right?  On an unrelated note, is anyone else wishing that BW would release a pack for single-player that would have all the multi-player only weapons?  I really want to get that Krysae in single-player.  Based on what I've seen, it's a beast.


I want a single player mission for all of the new multiplayer maps we have now.

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HellishFiend wrote...

byne wrote...

Are you saying there were actually people who didnt understand 'Ok, one more story' was meant as hinting at DLC?

I thought that was exceedingly obvious... :?

As a side note: the emoticons at the bottom when you hit reply should really stay in the same damned place.

Always takes me way longer than needed to find where the one I am looking for has moved to.


Yes, I do think that, and to top it off, most people are violently angry at that point, and are no longer paying much attention...


The Stargazer's 'one more story' had better not turn out to be something earlier in the story. He'd be kind of a bad storyteller then.

Imagine him telling the story of ME2: 

Stargazer: And then Shepard heroically destroyed the Collector Base!
Creepychild: Tell me another story about the Shepard!
Stargazer: Ok, one more story. Let me tell you about the time Shepard found this flying tank thing!
Creepychild: What heroic deeds did the Shepard do with this tank?
Stargazer: Um, well, she flew it around, and then found a ball made of liquid metal. The end.
Creepychild: <_<

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Corik wrote...

In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.

They say this:


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Dwailing wrote...

Corik wrote...

In any case... how do literalists explain that your squadmates during London mission are in the Normandy in the end? Can't think of a bigger evidence supporting IT. Well... in fact I can.


Wait, I know this one!  Bad writing!  No no wait, glitches!  No wait, I know this, SPACE MAGIC:wizard::wizard::wizard::wizard:!!!!


A...a...a...artistic integrityyy *fatal*

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 Just noticed something... Is it just me, or does Starbinger look almost corporeal at a certain point in the Control ending?

Posted Image


Truly "choreographed down to the second".


Just going back to this for a second, the kid changes to a corporeal form as the blast wave hits him, much like the carnifex turns into a predator when the blast wave passes through in destroy.