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[Lakeshow1986]

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

[Icinix]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

The only explanations are:

Bioware screwed up the lore regarding the Cain
Bioware intentionally rejiggered the lore of the Cain without telling us
That scene isnt real and the wrongness of the Cain is a clue

As is the ease in which a Reaper destroyer falls... 1 shot kill... for the first time ever. May as well been a YMIR Mech from ME2.

You know, you raise a good point. The more I think about it, the more I wonder if the usage and depiction of the Cain is even more of a clue than we think it is. 

I'll preempt here and say that this could just be a wild stretch, and way off, but I might as well entertain the idea just incase. 

Anyway, at the end of ME2, most of us find out that a single shot from the Cain is not enough to take out even a larval Reaper in one shot. So in a way, the usage/depiction of the Cain in the Hades Cannon Reaper scene could be a sort of double clue. The first clue being that the Cain is, well, not the Cain at all, and the second being that we already know that a shot from a Cain is not enough to outright kill a Reaper. 

I'm hesitant to fully throw myself behind that, especially because of all the implications of basically thinking the entire London sequence is a hallucination, but I think the idea has some merit. 

Yeah, but add in the 'I was born in London...' Blank, or doubtful stare.

Wrex and wanting to name a girl Mordin on Tuchanka claims it's Bakara's idea at the LZ and he 'doesn't know why' she would want to??

Liara: Nuff said... just empty, useless, blank, gift?

Everyone is depressing. James and Tali may be the exceptions.

The QEC lol - and the godly phonebook - I can't go fight right now - Shep could call any minute.

The vacancy of the entire push.

Not sure what to make of the Wrex/Wrev scene, other than 'oh crap' or 'oh good' but I swear the scene changes slightly the higher my EMS is... Wrex seems to get out in some and gets engulfed in the blast in others.

That scene is not something Shep possibly could see or know about... it's something only the player could see. Something to kick the player in the gut with.

There is more even before the beam run... that datapad in the hospital area about the voices in the back of the authors head that won't shut up... can't believe people don't see that as a freakin indoctrination beakon! - could be Sheps subconcious.

_____

Off topic!!

Oh oh!

Tim's line... The pattern was there, burried in the data.

Liara ME1.. The pattern is there, burried in the data.

Creeeeeepy.

During my first playthrough I thought the stuff got weird when you launch your final assault on the Cerberus Base.

Everything after that just seems - off.

There is also the whole Tali Romance coming back to you if you choose the geth over the quarians etc that I haven't confirmed but seen other people say happens. (This scene happens with the third dream apparently)

Earth seemed funny, the Cerberus base seemed funny, Hacket coming onboard the Normandy and giving his speech seemed funny. Everything was just....off from the moment you launch that final assault.

So yeah, I've been a believer that something is happening and affecting reality for Sheaprd from the point you launch the Cerberus base assault.

[olshi]

You could interpret the weapon bob as Shepard slowly losing control, but the hallucinations haven't started yet.

[Big G13]

Turbo_J wrote...

It's nice to finally share and have it taken seriously. I've been hanging on to all this info for months - just mentally tired of trying to explain it, I figured why bother.

I could add 20 pages worth of this crap in support of indoctrination. I guess when I found and announced that the park at the beginning didn't even exist and nobody seemed to care, I figured nothing else I had to say would matter either.

Well, fair warning, after so much time, people are some what married to there theories so expect alot of debate. But I for one would be very interested in hearing a new, well thought out theory. So you should unload it here, if only for my entertainment.:happy:

[paxxton]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

Anderson repeats himself in that scene. He told Shepard about that via QEC.

Btw, could the QEC be intercepted by the Reapers and fed with fake data?

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 11:35 .

[Moutoku]

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

and he doesn't sound at all british english:bandit:

[MaximizedAction]

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

It's nice to finally share and have it taken seriously. I've been hanging on to all this info for months - just mentally tired of trying to explain it, I figured why bother.

I could add 20 pages worth of this crap in support of indoctrination. I guess when I found and announced that the park at the beginning didn't even exist and nobody seemed to care, I figured nothing else I had to say would matter either.

Well, fair warning, after so much time, people are some what married to there theories so expect alot of debate. But I for one would be very interested in hearing a new, well thought out theory. So you should unload it here, if only for my entertainment.:happy:

Reminds me of a common advice for scientists: Never fall in love with your theory.

[paxxton]

Moutoku wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

and he doesn't sound at all british english:bandit:

And he strangely rolls his eyes as if checking whether Shepard believes him.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 11:38 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Moutoku wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

and he doesn't sound at all british english:bandit:

That was established like way, back.  It was in the Revelations novel.  I'd doubt somebody growing up in an area all there life before 18, and not having an accent.  I live in Vermont and yeah, I don't pronounce T's a lot of the time.

[prettz]

Starbuck8 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

It's nice to finally share and have it taken seriously. I've been hanging on to all this info for months - just mentally tired of trying to explain it, I figured why bother.

I could add 20 pages worth of this crap in support of indoctrination. I guess when I found and announced that the park at the beginning didn't even exist and nobody seemed to care, I figured nothing else I had to say would matter either.

Lol was it you that recently posted the pics of the park not being there/burnt? (saw that when catching up with this thread before joining in) I thought that was pretty significant.

might have been mine



Turbo_J you might have posted later then me and we where all fatigued from talking about it already and just did not know what more to add to it.

[Starbuck8]

paxxton wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

Anderson repeats himself in that scene. He told Shepard about that via QEC.

Btw, could the QEC be intercepted by the Reapers and fed with fake data?

I don't think there would be any way. Quantum entanglement is a real phenomenon. Google it or Wiki it, and you'll probably understand how this type of communication couldn't be intercepted.

[Arian Dynas]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Moutoku wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

and he doesn't sound at all british english:bandit:

That was established like way, back.  It was in the Revelations novel.  I'd doubt somebody growing up in an area all there life before 18, and not having an accent.  I live in Vermont and yeah, I don't pronounce T's a lot of the time.

So you're Urgenarchengle then? 

I will admit, it is a bit frustrating having a theory you have all nice and packed down contested, but well, the light of reality must sometimes shine in and dispell a few cobwebs. Purify our IT please and show us the assumptions we made lacking information. Who knows, we might come out of this more solid for it.

[UrgentArchengel]

Lol, that rooftop thing is just silly. It like they intentually wanted to kill that kid. There's no other damage.

[DJBare]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*Sigh* fine, you want you want my genuine thoughs on it? You asked for it.

One, "a fraction of the speed of light" describes alot of speeds for one, for two, read the Cain's description, that is what it says. and the human eye is capable of perciving a jet as moving fast, yet still is capable of seeing it, even when it could be breaking the sound barrier at mach 2, hence our eyes could potentially perceive it as moving slower than it is.

As for the effect that the Cain had, one the number of them is limited, we only see 2 in the entire game for one, they were a single prototype weapon we saw for the first time just last year, and has only spent maybe 6 months at most in the hands of the Alliance.

But more to the point what I genuinely think happened was since the Hades Cannons are mounted on the backs of destroyers, it blasted the cables and supports, unmooring them, causing the entire assembly to rip off from the destroyer's back, which disabled the cannon, even if it did not manage to disable the Reaper, you also have to remember, 25 Kilos is a ****ton of explosives, and I mean alot. You can put a pretty sizable hole in something with that, especially considering they are high velocity explosives which are especially nasty.

You need to check your facts, Arian. Maybe I should have been more clear when I said "Except it doesnt". It does NOT fire a 25 kilogram glob of explosives, it fires a 25 gram SLUG in a straight line. Your entire explanation is invalid. 

Don't get snippy with me laddybuck.

Either way a 25 gram SLUG, still would contain a not inconsiderable quantity of high explosives, and since it is accelerated by a mass effect it is pure slug, meaning the entire thing is potentially a jacketed explosive, which considering a PAINT CHIP acclerated to a sufficient degree can explode with the force of a nuclear bomb it is going to do some damage. And since density can affect explosive force, even if it is smaller than say a soft ball (which judging by the size of the barrel, is roughly how big the thing is) either way, BIG ****ING BOOM.

But all of that pales in comparison of the fact that in my opinion it didn't kill the Destroyer, merely knocked the cannon from it's mooring, causing the whole thing to rip away and crushing the Destroyer under the weight of it's own weapon, which has been stated to be nothing more than a big gun strapped to it's back.

It's just a 20 kilo ferrous slug, but someone else can explain it better www.youtube.com/watch, essentially it's just a piece of metal, it's the speed it's fired at which causes the devastation.

[UrgentArchengel]

@Arian
Lol, I do pronounce them for my "name".
Anyway, what you said was just beautiful. Seriously epic.

[Arian Dynas]

DJBare wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

*Sigh* fine, you want you want my genuine thoughs on it? You asked for it.

One, "a fraction of the speed of light" describes alot of speeds for one, for two, read the Cain's description, that is what it says. and the human eye is capable of perciving a jet as moving fast, yet still is capable of seeing it, even when it could be breaking the sound barrier at mach 2, hence our eyes could potentially perceive it as moving slower than it is.

As for the effect that the Cain had, one the number of them is limited, we only see 2 in the entire game for one, they were a single prototype weapon we saw for the first time just last year, and has only spent maybe 6 months at most in the hands of the Alliance.

But more to the point what I genuinely think happened was since the Hades Cannons are mounted on the backs of destroyers, it blasted the cables and supports, unmooring them, causing the entire assembly to rip off from the destroyer's back, which disabled the cannon, even if it did not manage to disable the Reaper, you also have to remember, 25 Kilos is a ****ton of explosives, and I mean alot. You can put a pretty sizable hole in something with that, especially considering they are high velocity explosives which are especially nasty.

You need to check your facts, Arian. Maybe I should have been more clear when I said "Except it doesnt". It does NOT fire a 25 kilogram glob of explosives, it fires a 25 gram SLUG in a straight line. Your entire explanation is invalid. 

Don't get snippy with me laddybuck.

Either way a 25 gram SLUG, still would contain a not inconsiderable quantity of high explosives, and since it is accelerated by a mass effect it is pure slug, meaning the entire thing is potentially a jacketed explosive, which considering a PAINT CHIP acclerated to a sufficient degree can explode with the force of a nuclear bomb it is going to do some damage. And since density can affect explosive force, even if it is smaller than say a soft ball (which judging by the size of the barrel, is roughly how big the thing is) either way, BIG ****ING BOOM.

But all of that pales in comparison of the fact that in my opinion it didn't kill the Destroyer, merely knocked the cannon from it's mooring, causing the whole thing to rip away and crushing the Destroyer under the weight of it's own weapon, which has been stated to be nothing more than a big gun strapped to it's back.

It's just a 20 kilo ferrous slug, but someone else can explain it better www.youtube.com/watch, essentially it's just a piece of metal, it's the speed it's fired at which causes the devastation.

That WAS my argument, since it states it shoots it really fast, when you fire a high explosive slug at superhigh speeds you get a railgun, a classic sci-fi staple. But in the end I am not going to bother arguing it, since the "Hades Cannon seeking" bit was just so you wouldn't waste Cains in my opinion, since they only fire once and they only put two of them there.

[Arian Dynas]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

@Arian
Lol, I do pronounce them for my "name".
Anyway, what you said was just beautiful. Seriously epic.

Seriously? It's the insomnia addled ramblings of a nutcase. 

[Wilkco]

not very good at posting but here goes

i would like to say first i want IT as the Ending becuase the current ones are unfulfilling however it leaves me with a big problem if it is.

this is a game you play to finish it unless you know it is a series then can expect a ending that leaves you wanting more. However this is the end of the shepard series so we as players should expect an final ending be it sad or happy (i would like a happy ending as well as a sad one ie Para or Rena). but the breath scene leaves you thinking there is more to come no sense of this has ended and that is my problem if Bioware use IT we did not win or lose just a body in some rubble with no final result. EC is no new game play just as bioware say just more answers but with IT you would not have won or lost unless they build something like you beat IT all the reapers leave type answer and i think i would be more pissed at that because it would make the game very lack luster in the ending not a bad as the starchild one but still rusbish

[Corik]

Wilkco wrote...

not very good at posting but here goes

i would like to say first i want IT as the Ending becuase the current ones are unfulfilling however it leaves me with a big problem if it is.

this is a game you play to finish it unless you know it is a series then can expect a ending that leaves you wanting more. However this is the end of the shepard series so we as players should expect an final ending be it sad or happy (i would like a happy ending as well as a sad one ie Para or Rena). but the breath scene leaves you thinking there is more to come no sense of this has ended and that is my problem if Bioware use IT we did not win or lose just a body in some rubble with no final result. EC is no new game play just as bioware say just more answers but with IT you would not have won or lost unless they build something like you beat IT all the reapers leave type answer and i think i would be more pissed at that because it would make the game very lack luster in the ending not a bad as the starchild one but still rusbish

EC with no gameplay has been denied by Jessica Merizan. Kinda denied at least.

[paxxton]

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

Anderson repeats himself in that scene. He told Shepard about that via QEC.

Btw, could the QEC be intercepted by the Reapers and fed with fake data?

I don't think there would be any way. Quantum entanglement is a real phenomenon. Google it or Wiki it, and you'll probably understand how this type of communication couldn't be intercepted.

I know how it works but maybe the Reapers could find some way in higher dimensions.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 12:06 .

[paxxton]

Corik wrote...

Wilkco wrote...

not very good at posting but here goes

i would like to say first i want IT as the Ending becuase the current ones are unfulfilling however it leaves me with a big problem if it is.

this is a game you play to finish it unless you know it is a series then can expect a ending that leaves you wanting more. However this is the end of the shepard series so we as players should expect an final ending be it sad or happy (i would like a happy ending as well as a sad one ie Para or Rena). but the breath scene leaves you thinking there is more to come no sense of this has ended and that is my problem if Bioware use IT we did not win or lose just a body in some rubble with no final result. EC is no new game play just as bioware say just more answers but with IT you would not have won or lost unless they build something like you beat IT all the reapers leave type answer and i think i would be more pissed at that because it would make the game very lack luster in the ending not a bad as the starchild one but still rusbish

EC with no gameplay has been denied by Jessica Merizan. Kinda denied at least.

What!!?? When?

[Starbuck8]

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Lakeshow1986 wrote...

Just replaying Priority Earth now;

"I was born in London..." Creepy

Anderson repeats himself in that scene. He told Shepard about that via QEC.

Btw, could the QEC be intercepted by the Reapers and fed with fake data?

I don't think there would be any way. Quantum entanglement is a real phenomenon. Google it or Wiki it, and you'll probably understand how this type of communication couldn't be intercepted.

I know how it works but maybe the Reapers could find some way in higher dimensions.

Haha, well I'm glad I didn't try explaining it then

Anyway, with anything is possible! But realistically, I highly doubt it.

[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

Wilkco wrote...

not very good at posting but here goes

i would like to say first i want IT as the Ending becuase the current ones are unfulfilling however it leaves me with a big problem if it is.

this is a game you play to finish it unless you know it is a series then can expect a ending that leaves you wanting more. However this is the end of the shepard series so we as players should expect an final ending be it sad or happy (i would like a happy ending as well as a sad one ie Para or Rena). but the breath scene leaves you thinking there is more to come no sense of this has ended and that is my problem if Bioware use IT we did not win or lose just a body in some rubble with no final result. EC is no new game play just as bioware say just more answers but with IT you would not have won or lost unless they build something like you beat IT all the reapers leave type answer and i think i would be more pissed at that because it would make the game very lack luster in the ending not a bad as the starchild one but still rusbish

EC with no gameplay has been denied by Jessica Merizan. Kinda denied at least.

What!!?? When?

Someone sent an angry tweet to Jessica saying "No gameplay in EC... that's so lame Bioware" or something like that. She answered with a "Where did you hear that? :P" or something like that.

Modifié par Corik, 06 juin 2012 - 12:09 .

[Turbo_J]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

It's nice to finally share and have it taken seriously. I've been hanging on to all this info for months - just mentally tired of trying to explain it, I figured why bother.

I could add 20 pages worth of this crap in support of indoctrination. I guess when I found and announced that the park at the beginning didn't even exist and nobody seemed to care, I figured nothing else I had to say would matter either.

Sorry, if it seems that way, but I think that everybody's post will be uncommented from time to time. But that doesn't mean we don't acknowledge them. I can say that I read most posts but don't comment on all, no matter what content.

EDIT: prettz posted it first.

Sorry, main comp crashed. Video card fianlly ate itself. Complete and total fan failure. This makes card# 2 (XFX 6870) in a month.

I knew about the park for close to two months. Posted about it a few times but not in the big original thread or this one until a few days ago. I created a video about it a month ago.

www.youtube.com/watch


I had more but the comp crash tore my short term memory to pieces... oh oh! got it... pics

TIM



NOT-TIM



Hopefully I'll have my main box back up and running by the end of the day. All the good pics and video are on that one. I usually have that stuff stored on the NAS but I recently rebuilt and have not set up syncronization.

[paxxton]

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

Wilkco wrote...

not very good at posting but here goes

i would like to say first i want IT as the Ending becuase the current ones are unfulfilling however it leaves me with a big problem if it is.

this is a game you play to finish it unless you know it is a series then can expect a ending that leaves you wanting more. However this is the end of the shepard series so we as players should expect an final ending be it sad or happy (i would like a happy ending as well as a sad one ie Para or Rena). but the breath scene leaves you thinking there is more to come no sense of this has ended and that is my problem if Bioware use IT we did not win or lose just a body in some rubble with no final result. EC is no new game play just as bioware say just more answers but with IT you would not have won or lost unless they build something like you beat IT all the reapers leave type answer and i think i would be more pissed at that because it would make the game very lack luster in the ending not a bad as the starchild one but still rusbish

EC with no gameplay has been denied by Jessica Merizan. Kinda denied at least.

What!!?? When?

Someone sent an angry tweet to Jessica saying "No gameplay in EC... that's so lame Bioware" or something like that. She answered with a "Where did you hear that? :P" or something like that.

That's great news!