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[Big G13]

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

[Rosewind]

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Turbo_J wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Yeah, Arian is a badass! I could do the work, but it's a lot of work for me. I don't have the PC version or do I try to think about ME all the time. I am actually trying to ween off of speculation. Lol.

I think once the EC comes out and we have all the answers, most of us are going to have to join a "Speculators Anonymous" 12-step program to break this addicting habit! 

Don't kid yourself.

3 or 4 centuries of war for the Prothians. Even with a united galaxy, this war won't be won in a day.

First we wake up, "...and it's that's just the beginning."

And thats where I disagree. If we dont win now, with the combined fleet of the Galaxy, then we wont win at all.

Sure there might be some clean up after the battle at Earth, but the war itself is won or lost at Earth.

But we allready discussed that to death, Turbo

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

[Rosewind]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

[paxxton]

Rosewind wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

Try Beyond Good & Evil.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

paxxton wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

Try Beyond Good & Evil.

Oh yeah that is one great game. Hopefully we will get something serius on the next one soon.

[estebanus]

Turbo_J wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Yeah, Arian is a badass! I could do the work, but it's a lot of work for me. I don't have the PC version or do I try to think about ME all the time. I am actually trying to ween off of speculation. Lol.

I think once the EC comes out and we have all the answers, most of us are going to have to join a "Speculators Anonymous" 12-step program to break this addicting habit! 

Don't kid yourself.

3 or 4 centuries of war for the Prothians. Even with a united galaxy, this war won't be won in a day.

First we wake up, "...and it's that's just the beginning."

Indeed.

The confirmation of the IT would only be the first step on a long journey to quell the nerdrage on the BSN. And I'd be up for it. Whatever it takes. The "incomplete game" and "Lol Bioware just did fanservice" arguments would bring a new flamewar that the BSN probably would never see again.

Then again, there will be a flameware no matter what Bioware decides. In the one case, it would be all the pro-enders and zealous anti-ITers who won't accept it, and in the other case, it would be all the pro-ITers who would start the war.

Since about 60% of BSN are pro-IT, you wouldn't possibly imagine what kind of sh*tstorm would roll in if it turns out false. It would be large either way, but it would be even larger if the IT is false.

[Rosewind]

paxxton wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

Try Beyond Good & Evil.

Yeah I have heard that one is good

[paxxton]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

Try Beyond Good & Evil.

Oh yeah that is one great game. Hopefully we will get something serius on the next one soon.

It won't be out until next-gen consoles are on the market, I'm afraid.

[estebanus]

Also, I just beat MGS3. Holy hell, is that a great end, with a both bittersweet and great ending at the same time!

Bioware, takes notes from Kojiima. He knows how to end a video game.

[paxxton]

Rosewind wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Is kingdom of Amalur worth getting?

Idd say yes.

Dont expect Mass Effect levels of story, but it has a fun combat system and is a good game all in all.

Nothing has ME story lvl lol

Try Beyond Good & Evil.

Yeah I have heard that one is good

It's really innovative, at least it was in 2004.  I could really do a new playthrough of this and Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit someday.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 02:13 .

[Turbo_J]

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

[Ytook]

Haven't been on here for about a month, anything new or interesting I've missed? (and beyond good and evil is one of my favourite games of all time)

[Big Bad]

Turbo_J wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Yeah, Arian is a badass! I could do the work, but it's a lot of work for me. I don't have the PC version or do I try to think about ME all the time. I am actually trying to ween off of speculation. Lol.

I think once the EC comes out and we have all the answers, most of us are going to have to join a "Speculators Anonymous" 12-step program to break this addicting habit! 

Don't kid yourself.

3 or 4 centuries of war for the Prothians. Even with a united galaxy, this war won't be won in a day.

First we wake up, "...and it's that's just the beginning."

Hey, if BW wants to keep the war going for a few more hours of gameplay (or a few dozen!), I am all for it. I love fighting the Reapers!

[Corik]

Big Bad wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Yeah, Arian is a badass! I could do the work, but it's a lot of work for me. I don't have the PC version or do I try to think about ME all the time. I am actually trying to ween off of speculation. Lol.

I think once the EC comes out and we have all the answers, most of us are going to have to join a "Speculators Anonymous" 12-step program to break this addicting habit! 

Don't kid yourself.

3 or 4 centuries of war for the Prothians. Even with a united galaxy, this war won't be won in a day.

First we wake up, "...and it's that's just the beginning."

Hey, if BW wants to keep the war going for a few more hours of gameplay (or a few dozen!), I am all for it. I love fighting the Reapers!

you can always start from scratch from ME1

[Big G13]

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

I agree. And when I combine what you have said (Reapers=Each a nation & Biogoo=people) with Aryan's writings on the origin of the reapers, and then compare that to the Geth and the way they act (leave us alone & we'll leave you alone) and the fact that Geth don't need organics but chose to help organics, then the Reapers need for organic material (synthesis) becomes, imho, a glaring weakness.

[paxxton]

Ytook wrote...

Haven't been on here for about a month, anything new or interesting I've missed? (and beyond good and evil is one of my favourite games of all time)

Are you sure? I think I saw your posts a few days ago.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 03:00 .

[Turbo_J]

Big Bad wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

UrgentArchengel wrote...

Yeah, Arian is a badass! I could do the work, but it's a lot of work for me. I don't have the PC version or do I try to think about ME all the time. I am actually trying to ween off of speculation. Lol.

I think once the EC comes out and we have all the answers, most of us are going to have to join a "Speculators Anonymous" 12-step program to break this addicting habit! 

Don't kid yourself.

3 or 4 centuries of war for the Prothians. Even with a united galaxy, this war won't be won in a day.

First we wake up, "...and it's that's just the beginning."

Hey, if BW wants to keep the war going for a few more hours of gameplay (or a few dozen!), I am all for it. I love fighting the Reapers!

You and me both, but I'd prefer to take back Earth after waking up/recovering, having an epilogue - some blue kids, even though Liara's got some splanin to do, and maybe take on some Specter assignments...

Then, clean up the galaxy and enjoy uncovering the Reaper backstory through adventurous discovery in ME4, even if it's not part of Sheps Arc.

[RAF1940]

I really don't think so, to be honest.

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

Legion is different to the other geth I still reckon he was unit 001 aka the agriculture unit that took up the widow, that mission always makes me cry lol dam this sensitive women's body lol

[Turbo_J]

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

I agree. And when I combine what you have said (Reapers=Each a nation & Biogoo=people) with Aryan's writings on the origin of the reapers, and then compare that to the Geth and the way they act (leave us alone & we'll leave you alone) and the fact that Geth don't need organics but chose to help organics, then the Reapers need for organic material (synthesis) becomes, imho, a glaring weakness.

Factor in EDI's questions on the purpose of synthetic life... what if that question was answered by a consensus, or a decision was made 'in a vacuum'.

Add in a gestalt intellect formed into a Dyson sphere...

Now, this giganto mind decides to figure out it's purpose.

What if it was 10 billion for altruism and 10+1 billion for procreation and there was nobody around for added input?

How does a Dyson sphere reproduce?

Answer = Reapers.

[Turbo_J]

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

Legion is different to the other geth I still reckon he was unit 001 aka the agriculture unit that took up the widow, that mission always makes me cry lol dam this sensitive women's body lol

At the time, Geth programs were not networked within their own platfrom - it was ONE geth in that body. I do however think that one of the Geth within the Legion platform was both 001 and the unit in the mem-core vid that armed itself.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 06 juin 2012 - 02:52 .

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

Legion is different to the other geth I still reckon he was unit 001 aka the agriculture unit that took up the widow, that mission always makes me cry lol dam this sensitive women's body lol

At the time, Geth programs were not networked within their own platfrom - it was ONE geth in that body. I do however think that one of the Geth withing the Legion platform was both 001 and the unit in the mem-core vid that armed itself.

And the one that it's master died from the bomb explosion man that broke me ><

[Big G13]

Rosewind wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

ok, what about the Reapers

Legion tells you what they are between the two games, but it's in subtext so you need to listen.

Geth = programs. Programs + network = intelligence. A gestalt intellect, a nation, but interdependent. A fractured mind.

Reapers = Each a nation, free of all weakness.
Nazara = programs in Sovereign (may be 'Nazara' was the name of the race harvested). Each a fully evolved AI or more given what Reaper code did for the Geth.

Biogoo = people = programs. Each an individual, but dependent. Enslaved. Billions of fully evolved AIs... "a single thought was immense, unknowable"

Legion - About the Reaper upgrades: We would be alive, but WITH FREE WILL - independent and free willed 'individuals'. ...'you mean they didn't get along because the Geth were not individuals?'

The programs inside a Reaper are the culmination of the enslaved population. They have no free will, no individuality, no choice. Thus the AI part of the Reaper likely imposes some sort of consensus. Living with no soul is not life.

As part of the consensus, Geth were unable to develop emotions. As soon as Legion's independent personality began to emerge, so did his emotions. It started way before you can imagine... just look at his shoulder. It became obvious in the Shuttle on the way to the base, where he expressed shame.

There is way more to this, but you get the idea.

Now I see why you are reluctant to write it all down. I think even I could talk with you about the implications of just this little bit for an hour. For instance, it would seem that Legions emotions began to emerge very shortly after being separated from the consensus. Legions conflicting emotions about his loneliness from being separated and his new found individuality is never discussed but I think is there in the sub text. And is telling about the differance between Heretics and Geth. Heretics chose to become part of a larger consensus and the Geth chose to continue to make their own future. 
Took me 10 min. just to write this out so, thats why I don't post much.

Tell me about it.

Legion had 'no daaata available' when Shep asked about the armor. Why?

It respected Shepard, but it also felt some attachment to this very different organic. It wore their armor with pride, but at the time could not process why it felt pride at all... Understanding an emotion is far from experiencing it. Perhaps it was already capable of being ashamed, thus decided to lie by omission.

That's what I got out of his cryptic response, anyway. In retrospect, I may not have been too far off.

Legion is different to the other geth I still reckon he was unit 001 aka the agriculture unit that took up the widow, that mission always makes me cry lol dam this sensitive women's body lol

Excellent point. An agricultural unit showing self sacrifice to protect others? Legion may have been an anomaly as far back as the Morning War.