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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Riot86 wrote...

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Reaper code is what made Legion and EDI who they are.... individuals with free will... After Legion loaded the reaper code by sacrificing himself, he gave the Geth what he had, free will, is this accurate?

So, Reaper Code is the reason not only EDI, but all Geth as well get free will.

This seems to be heavily implying, that Reapers themselves have free will, isn't it?

Yet the Starchild claims he is controlling them.


Well EDI, although she had reaper code, was bound by the AI shackles. The reapers are most likely controlled by the use of similar shackles.

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paxxton wrote...

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It's definately not Shepard. This is an arm of a Synthetic.

Huh?, what makes you think it's a synthetic?

There's a hidden message in that picture. Organics create Synthetics. A reference to the Creation of Adam by Michelangelo.

Interesting connection, if true I'd certainly be interested in knowing who the synthetic is, just imagine if it's Legion!

And before anyone says anything, geth cannot die, unless their software is wiped they are essentially immortal.

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


There's no synthetic in the picture. Its clearly a glove with armor. If it were a synthetic the entire hand would be armor.

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Well...I am going to go watch the Day 3 coverage of E3...I am still holding out hope that someone will at least ask someone from Bioware what's up with the EC...and I should get a chance to see some awesome game demos which is always a plus. If I see anything I'll be back to report it!

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Unschuld wrote...

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The only thing that kills that idea is that the armor covers up whether the person wearing it is mail or female. The arm is definetly a male. That would kick the FemShep fans in the rear if it was IT related.


Sheploo has been the face of Mass Effect on all three games, only sharing representation with canon femShep in ME3. I'd hardly call it a kick in the rear, seeing as it's just art. Not everything they draw even today has a male & female version.


It's just been a kick in the rear since ME1 ;)

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balance5050 wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Reaper code is what made Legion and EDI who they are.... individuals with free will... After Legion loaded the reaper code by sacrificing himself, he gave the Geth what he had, free will, is this accurate?

So, Reaper Code is the reason not only EDI, but all Geth as well get free will.

This seems to be heavily implying, that Reapers themselves have free will, isn't it?

Yet the Starchild claims he is controlling them.


And Starbinger is a bold faced liar... your point?

My point was, that Shepard needs to be under strong Reaper influence to believe a single word this brat says and pick CONTROL or SYNTHESIS ;)

Which is of course no new discovery, but still something I wanted to point out for some reason :D

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paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

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Turbo_J wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

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HellishFiend wrote...

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Is this true?
That is awesome


What is true? That is the full image for the background for the Silver level in Multi Player just a drawing they using to look pretty.


That's the moon isn't it?


The moon doesn't have clouds silly....


It's simply artistic license for the sake of having a cool looking picture for the Silver difficulty. Same concept behind the reason why you can have Geth fighting Geth in multiplayer, even though there is no point in time within ME3 where that could take place. 


Geth do fight Geth becasue if Legion gave the Geth free will, there are still programs that side with the Reapers....


Not sure if this was answered, but that is inaccurate. There are still pockets of Geth, but they are just Geth bodies loaded with Reaper code... not upgrades enslaved or upgrades with free will, just pure Reaper code. Hijacked hardware.


Reaper code is what made Legion and EDI who they are.... individuals with free will... After Legion loaded the reaper code by sacrificing himself, he gave the Geth what he had, free will, is this accurate?


Yes, but Rahn (sp) mentions that there are still hostile Geth but they are just Geth bodies with Reaper code - not upgraded Geth - just straight up Reaper code.

No Geth with free will and Legions code upgrades/personality dissemination, would ever side with the Reapers unless it was brain damaged.



Ok ok, my first point was just trying to justify Geth on Geth Violence in MP, your description seems to justify that so we're all good.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Well...I am going to go watch the Day 3 coverage of E3...I am still holding out hope that someone will at least ask someone from Bioware what's up with the EC...and I should get a chance to see some awesome game demos which is always a plus. If I see anything I'll be back to report it!

Good watching!

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Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...


I'm really not seeing synthetic, looks like a gloved human hand to me...

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llbountyhunter wrote...

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Don't the geth have 3 fingers like the quarians?


3 fingers= 2 "finger" phalanges and a "thumb" phalange. The bare arm in that pic has 3 visible fingers and a thumb. One finger is hidden for some reason. The armored arm obviously has four fingers and a thumb.

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Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 09:57 .


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I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.

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paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


It's the same glove, the lights aren't on in this pic but it's the same glove.

http://media.giantbo...330-shepard.jpg 

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balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.

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paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


Your right. Neither does the one in the picture.

They go by many names, but most humans call those "reflections"

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balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


It's the same glove, the lights aren't on in this pic but it's the same glove.

http://media.giantbo...330-shepard.jpg 

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I thought they were reflections from the light underneath...

Or not.. after looking back, maybe they are lighs. Nevermind... again.

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 06 juin 2012 - 10:02 .


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EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me to man.

Modifié par balance5050, 06 juin 2012 - 10:05 .


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balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


It's the same glove, the lights aren't on in this pic but it's the same glove.

http://media.giantbo...330-shepard.jpg 

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That red/white thing on the glove has a different shape.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


Your right. Neither does the one in the picture.

They go by many names, but most humans call those "reflections"

LOL. Those are lights not reflections.

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paxxton wrote...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


But it has the same structure. Honestly using the lights as an arguement is so minor that it's not even worth considering it. It's a drawing, they embellish the details sometimes.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.


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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 10:05 .


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paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


Your right. Neither does the one in the picture.

They go by many names, but most humans call those "reflections"

LOL. Those are lights not reflections.


Can anyone find Lex0r's "We can do it" pic?

I remember seeing a better shot of the glove there.

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paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


It has, but they're off

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Unschuld wrote...

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Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


But it has the same structure. Honestly using the lights as an arguement is so minor that it's not even worth considering it. It's a drawing, they embellish the details sometimes.


Yeah, it's N7 armor, a few minor details doesn't change that.