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Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


It has, but they're off

Ok, something's there.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Those hands are just of random Organic and random Synthetic. It's the symbolism that matters. Creation of a new form of existence.


random Synthetic = Shepard? He has synthetic parts but he isn't Synthetic...

Shepard's armor doesn't have lights on fingers.


Your right. Neither does the one in the picture.

They go by many names, but most humans call those "reflections"

LOL. Those are lights not reflections.


Can anyone find Lex0r's "We can do it" pic?

I remember seeing a better shot of the glove there.


Good thinking, although I don't know if it shows the fingers, it may just show the backside of her hand.

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paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?

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balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


This

And I play only FemShep.

Truth just is.

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Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....

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You can see where the lights are. They're off yes but the structure is there.

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balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....

That would be crazy and out of touch to fight TIM with arms. His weapon is words!

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 10:16 .


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balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:

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Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


And there's at least 1 dead cerberus trooper.

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Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


I only saw the blue and white/pink pheonix armor.... Ashley and Kaiden are both alliance so in a way you are right.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


And there's at least 1 dead cerberus trooper.


I don't remember, I believe you but a pic would help jog my memory...

#13162
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balance5050 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


I only saw the blue and white/pink pheonix armor.... Ashley and Kaiden are both alliance so in a way you are right.


Kindof hints that those piles are a hallucination/illusion type of thing (not that is wasn't already kinda obvious). Oh yeah the ashley and kaiden piles are just so creepy. And bad looking. It's done the same way as some of the rubble you see in places like Thessia, but the rubble looked more realistic and 3-D than the Ashley-Kaiden piles.

Modifié par Starbuck8, 06 juin 2012 - 10:22 .


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I play as both gender Shepards.

They both get love from me!

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IronSabbath88 wrote...

I play as both gender Shepards.

They both get love from me!


Yeah, love all the Shepards!

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


And there's at least 1 dead cerberus trooper.


I don't remember, I believe you but a pic would help jog my memory...

I can't get a pic right now but he's hanging on one of the cables while you're in the hallway.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

I know this may hurt some of you but male Shep is the official face of ME, they couldn't even decide on a default female face till ME3.


I've always played through as BroShep. Only time I played as FemShep it was to test out Ghost Ashley.

I don't know, I just don't like the way she talks.


*Bro hug*

Finally common ground! Mark Meer IS Shepard for me too man.

Before ME3 she looked like a plastic doll, totally not like a human.


Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)

Anyway we really shouldn't stray too of topic, so I was gonna say, we should maybe pay some more attention to the artbooks for potential clues, idk nothing could be definitive buy maybe worth a look?


The artbook is loaded with strange alternate scenes; dead cerberus on the citadel instead of bald Kaidens and Ashleys, alternate look for indocrinated TIM, etc....


There are also alliance soldiers on the citadel not only Ashleys and KaidAns :whistle:


And there's at least 1 dead cerberus trooper.


I don't remember, I believe you but a pic would help jog my memory...


I have some soldiers for you:
Posted Image :innocent:

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EpyonX3 wrote...

I can't get a pic right now but he's hanging on one of the cables while you're in the hallway.


You're right, there is a single headless Cerberus agant draped over a cable, and there are some hammer members as well.

The artbook depicted all the bodies being Cerberus if I remmeber correctly...

@Ravereth 

Yes I see now...

Modifié par balance5050, 06 juin 2012 - 10:33 .


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EpyonX3 wrote...

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You can see where the lights are. They're off yes but the structure is there.

Maybe it's Shepard's arm then. Hoped for some deeper meaning in that picture. Posted Image

EDIT: It still doesn't prove that it's Shepard attached to that arm. Posted Image jk

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 10:34 .


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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

I can't get a pic right now but he's hanging on one of the cables while you're in the hallway.


You're right, there is a single headless Cerberus agant draped over a cable, and there are some hammer members as well.

The artbook depicted all the bodies being Cerberus if I remmeber correctly...

@
Ravereth 

Yes I see now...


The artbook also depicted the Cerberus HQ as looking a hell of a lot like the Citadel in that scene... it's all very strange.

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Ugh, fan boys! :P I guess I'll just say that I appreciate BW at least giving us the option to play female as well as the best VA ;)


Highly debatable. ;)

And that's all I have to say.

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 Am I seeing things or my Sheploo has a wound in the circled area... 

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Am I seeing things or my Sheploo has a wound in the circled area...

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Why do you call him Sheptoilet? Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 06 juin 2012 - 10:41 .


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 Am I seeing things or my Sheploo has a wound in the circled area... 

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Well there's something there... looks like a dent? Is this visible in normal gameplay without flycam? Could be part of the burnt armor that they know wouldn't be visible until a certain important scene.

Also, if this is a bullet hole, where did it come from?

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Ravereth wrote...

 Am I seeing things or my Sheploo has a wound in the circled area... 

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Ahh, but the gunshot wound is below that wound....

http://www.youtube.c...N3xtUu44#t=518s

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Why do you call him Sheptoilet? Posted Image


Sheploo = Shepard + Vanderloo :P