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[EpyonX3]

Unschuld wrote...

Five oH Thre3 wrote...

 http://youtu.be/caAqFFhBn2U?t=1m57s

Hmmm... seems to be no coincidence here that the mako comes in at the perfect time and get flipped by Harby's beam just seconds before Shepard gets knocked out. And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there a flipped mako in the breath scene?

It hasn't been definitively proven to be a Mako in the breath scene, and I've tried matching up the lines (sans wheels) and didn't come up with anything that was spot-on.
But that vehicle in the video link....

It.

Is.

Not.

A.

Mako.

That's an M-080 variant. Tried matching that one up too, nothing definitive.

The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

Question... would it be possible at all for you to not word speculations as fact?  I try very hard to choose my words carefully when I'm dealing with things that are unconfirmed. Not asking for the same amount of effort from everyone, but it would be great if you could try. 

[EpyonX3]

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

It is a massive amount of sudden bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

Modifié par balance5050, 07 juin 2012 - 02:05 .

[balance5050]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

Question... would it be possible at all for you to not word speculations as fact?  I try very hard to choose my words carefully when I'm dealing with things that are unconfirmed. Not asking for the same amount of effort from everyone, but it would be great if you could try. 

Nice, I couldn't think of a polite way to handle this. Patience is a virtue.....

[HellishFiend]

balance5050 wrote...

It is a massive amount of bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

Deep breaths, balance..... deep breaths....

[Unschuld]

Ravereth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

*cough*she*cough*

Ah yes, I should have known from her figure I guess...

This next operation seems pretty easy as well...


http://blog.bioware....ration-mastiff/

 Wait, wait, wait... I'm a girl, but my Shep is male  (Is that strange? )

Nah, I'm a guy but my Shep is (usually) Femshep.  What can I say, I like girls who kick ass!

I'm also a guy who plays as femshep! Modeled my first Shep after my girlfriend!

I don't know why, but femshep seems more...right for Mass Effect, you know? I'm not really sure why, but it feels more right for me to play as femshep than as Sheploo for some reason...

I have only one Shepard - Pragade Sheploo (90% paragon, 10% renegade) and I'm never gona play as femshep, customized maleshep or full renegade one...  

I just love Sheploo too much, I guess 

 

It's not weird, I know of at least one other girl who only plays as MShep.

I only have one Shep, the custom one in my avatar. I never got past Eden Prime with femShep, because I just can't stand the voice. J Hale did a great job with Bastila in KOTOR, but every line she says in the Mass Effect series sounds forced, like she's trying too hard to lower her voice to sound more "badassful". I watched a scene the other day where Vega comes into her quarters, and I just could not help facepalming. Someone put it quite well in another thread, that listening to FemShep reminds me that I'm listening to a voice actress, while Meer's voice seems to be more natural and coming from the character (Shepard) itself. Sure, he doesn't hit every single line perfectly, but every character has a few of those. His flubs just annoy me a lot less.

To each their own though, I suppose

As for those wounds, as hard as I'm trying to see them, they're not popping out at me. Looks like dents, scratches, and a couple red splotches, but not quite bloody. I'll take a closer look, and maybe open the texture file in a bit. Unless the armor was perforated (like with a bullet), which it doesn't look to be, I can't see blood leaking out like it does in the final scene.

Modifié par Unschuld, 07 juin 2012 - 02:09 .

[senshi420]

long time lurker, just got my own copy of the game, so Im poppin in to say hi to all you shiny people
and ask if there is anything recent that has developed

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

Question... would it be possible at all for you to not word speculations as fact?  I try very hard to choose my words carefully when I'm dealing with things that are unconfirmed. Not asking for the same amount of effort from everyone, but it would be great if you could try. 

You're completely right, I didn't add anything to what I said that makes it speculation. I'll be more careful next time.

[Unschuld]

EpyonX3 wrote...
The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean, and I tried matching those up too. No dice. Still a mystery to me what all the non-"concrete" objects are in that scene.

[HellishFiend]

Unschuld wrote...

It's not weird, I know of at least one other girl who only plays as MShep.

I only have one Shep, the custom one in my avatar. I never got past Eden Prime with femShep, because I just can't stand the voice. J Hale did a great job with Bastila in KOTOR, but every line she says in the Mass Effect series sounds forced, like she's trying too hard to lower her voice to sound more "badassful". I watched a scene the other day where Vega comes into her quarters, and I just could help facepalming. Someone put it quite well in another thread, that listening to FemShep reminds me that I'm listening to a voice actress, while Meer's voice seems to be more natural and coming from the character (Shepard) itself. Sure, he doesn't hit every single line perfectly, but every character has a few of those. His flubs just annoy me a lot less.

While I dont condone off topic banter, I'm glad someone finally said it here. That runs through my head every time that topic comes up in this thread (which it does, far too frequently), and it's been killing me that I've been forcing myself not to say it. 

Hale as Femshep comes across as a character in a story. That isnt a bad thing in and of itself, but ME is a different animal. Shepard is supposed to be the player's avatar. Meer plays that role perfectly. It never feels like you're just watching a story play out when listening to Meer, IMO. Listening to femshep makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. 

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

Question... would it be possible at all for you to not word speculations as fact?  I try very hard to choose my words carefully when I'm dealing with things that are unconfirmed. Not asking for the same amount of effort from everyone, but it would be great if you could try. 

You're completely right, I didn't add anything to what I said that makes it speculation. I'll be more careful next time.

Thanks. An "I think" preface would be fine in almost all cases. It ensures that whatever comes after doesnt feel like an attack on anyone that believes otherwise. 

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

It is a massive amount of sudden bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

It couldn't be from slowly bleeding since he woke up on earth? He was laying in a pool of blood when he woke up.

Then he had to deal with TIM controlling his body, draining his strength.

[EpyonX3]

Unschuld wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean, and I tried matching those up too. No dice. Still a mystery to me what all the non-"concrete" objects are in that scene.

Hmm I'll take a look anyway but there are still far more objects in there that we can't make out. The only things that are clear are the slabs or stone/concrete and the cables.

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

It is a massive amount of sudden bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

It couldn't be from slowly bleeding since he woke up on earth? He was laying in a pool of blood when he woke up.

Then he had to deal with TIM controlling his body, draining his strength.

No because he looks down and all of a sudden he has way more blood on his arms and his hand, and the fact that it's shiny seems to indicate that it's fresh.

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

It's not weird, I know of at least one other girl who only plays as MShep.

I only have one Shep, the custom one in my avatar. I never got past Eden Prime with femShep, because I just can't stand the voice. J Hale did a great job with Bastila in KOTOR, but every line she says in the Mass Effect series sounds forced, like she's trying too hard to lower her voice to sound more "badassful". I watched a scene the other day where Vega comes into her quarters, and I just could help facepalming. Someone put it quite well in another thread, that listening to FemShep reminds me that I'm listening to a voice actress, while Meer's voice seems to be more natural and coming from the character (Shepard) itself. Sure, he doesn't hit every single line perfectly, but every character has a few of those. His flubs just annoy me a lot less.

While I dont condone off topic banter, I'm glad someone finally said it here. That runs through my head every time that topic comes up in this thread (which it does, far too frequently), and it's been killing me that I've been forcing myself not to say it. 

Hale as Femshep comes across as a character in a story. That isnt a bad thing in and of itself, but ME is a different animal. Shepard is supposed to be the player's avatar. Meer plays that role perfectly. It never feels like you're just watching a story play out when listening to Meer, IMO. Listening to femshep makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. 

I don't like the way she sounds. The way she acts just makes my ears hurt. Not that she does a bad job it's just that to me she seems to over acts the lines. It was especially painful when I was going through the dialog files in the game.

[Unschuld]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean, and I tried matching those up too. No dice. Still a mystery to me what all the non-"concrete" objects are in that scene.

Hmm I'll take a look anyway but there are still far more objects in there that we can't make out. The only things that are clear are the slabs or stone/concrete and the cables.

Believe me, I've been doing this for a couple days and I'm being as objective as I can. there's still a ton of objects from the citadel and London that I haven't tried matching up yet. I'm starting to wonder why I'm wasting so much time on it though.

[EpyonX3]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

It is a massive amount of sudden bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

It couldn't be from slowly bleeding since he woke up on earth? He was laying in a pool of blood when he woke up.

Then he had to deal with TIM controlling his body, draining his strength.

No because he looks down and all of a sudden he has way more blood on his arms and his hand, and the fact that it's shiny seems to indicate that it's fresh.

The blood is all over his hands and arms. How did he get it there?

[Riot86]

Just finished Priority: Cerberus Headquarters and the Prothean VI had a very interesting thing to say once it was activated - www.youtube.com/watch

Prothean VI: "Online. Security breach detected."
TIM: "Enjoy your little chat. But don't overstay your welcome."
Prothean VI: "You are attempting to recover me from indoctrinated forces?"
Shepard: "Yes. I need to know what the Catalyst is."
*pause*
Prothean VI: "Security protocols have been overridden. I will comply"

The bold parts is what seemed strange to me.

We does the VI specificily state, that it will comply? Just one sentence after stating the security protocols were overridden? Why does it make a pause before answering? Did it needed time to process new data? For me, this actually sounds like the VI only complies because these security protocols were overridden.

The question is now, what reason could the VI have to not help Shepard if the security protocols were still running? It has spoken to Shepard on Thessia before and in my playthrough Javik himself told the VI to give me the information I needed. It also recognized the Prothean Cipher, so Shepard should be regarded as trustworthy.

The most likely reason the security protocols were overridden in the first place is of course, that TIM wanted to gain access to the VI. Hence he had to disable the security lock that prevents indoctrinated persons to interact with the VI.

So if we assume that these security protocols hinder indoctrinated from using the VI...and we also assume that the VI only helps Shepard because the VI's security is no longer working - then one might actually thing Shepard could be indoctrinated to some degree, enough at least for the VI to now be able to detect the Reaper influence (in contrast to Thessia). Which would explain the pause, since this would be new data to process for sure 

Of course, this is all speculation. But in the context of IT, I really found this two sentences suspicious. Sorry, if this was brought up before - if that is the case, just ignore everything above

Modifié par Riot86, 07 juin 2012 - 02:24 .

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

While I dont condone off topic banter, I'm glad someone finally said it here. That runs through my head every time that topic comes up in this thread (which it does, far too frequently), and it's been killing me that I've been forcing myself not to say it. 

Hale as Femshep comes across as a character in a story. That isnt a bad thing in and of itself, but ME is a different animal. Shepard is supposed to be the player's avatar. Meer plays that role perfectly. It never feels like you're just watching a story play out when listening to Meer, IMO. Listening to femshep makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. 

I don't like the way she sounds. The way she acts just makes my ears hurt. Not that she does a bad job it's just that to me she seems to over acts the lines. It was especially painful when I was going through the dialog files in the game.

Yeah, I particularly dislike her "take" on the Anderson/TIM confrontation in the Citadel. The emotion she displays in a lot of the lines just seems off, or even inappropriate at times.

Who is to say that we, as the player, feel the same anger, frustration, and passion that she displays there? What if we feel ambivalent? Should we alter our emotion and perception to match her intensity?

Meer doesnt come across that way. His take leaves a lot of room for you to plug your own emotion into the lines youre hearing from him, rather than feeling guided and steered by them. 

I guess that makes 5 things we agree on. 

[EpyonX3]

Unschuld wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...
The part that people confuse for a part of the Mako is actually a part of the Crucible. I haven't gotten around to posting my findings but it's the round object that the prongs connect to via the blue beams. Hopefully you know what I mean.

I know exactly what you mean, and I tried matching those up too. No dice. Still a mystery to me what all the non-"concrete" objects are in that scene.

Hmm I'll take a look anyway but there are still far more objects in there that we can't make out. The only things that are clear are the slabs or stone/concrete and the cables.

Believe me, I've been doing this for a couple days and I'm being as objective as I can. there's still a ton of objects from the citadel and London that I haven't tried matching up yet. I'm starting to wonder why I'm wasting so much time on it though.

The Truth Is Out There!

[balance5050]

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

FFZero wrote...


Actually, no, there isn’t a wound. Trust me, I’ve been working with this model in the UDK on and off for the past two days. The only thing that changes with this armour at all is that after the confrontation with TIM, a specular map is added to Shepards armour and arms, which gives them a more bloody appearance.

OMG I've been saying this for forever! They increase the detail in his blood for that scene and that scene alone to emphasize Shepard's condition. It's not a massive amount of sudden bleeding. If it was it'll be all on the inside of the left hand not all over both hands and arms.

It is a massive amount of sudden bleeding because he f***ing passes out....

It couldn't be from slowly bleeding since he woke up on earth? He was laying in a pool of blood when he woke up.

Then he had to deal with TIM controlling his body, draining his strength.

No because he looks down and all of a sudden he has way more blood on his arms and his hand, and the fact that it's shiny seems to indicate that it's fresh.

The blood is all over his hands and arms. How did he get it there?

Probably his burnt arms. The blood appears dry....

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

While I dont condone off topic banter, I'm glad someone finally said it here. That runs through my head every time that topic comes up in this thread (which it does, far too frequently), and it's been killing me that I've been forcing myself not to say it. 

Hale as Femshep comes across as a character in a story. That isnt a bad thing in and of itself, but ME is a different animal. Shepard is supposed to be the player's avatar. Meer plays that role perfectly. It never feels like you're just watching a story play out when listening to Meer, IMO. Listening to femshep makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. 

I don't like the way she sounds. The way she acts just makes my ears hurt. Not that she does a bad job it's just that to me she seems to over acts the lines. It was especially painful when I was going through the dialog files in the game.

Yeah, I particularly dislike her "take" on the Anderson/TIM confrontation in the Citadel. The emotion she displays in a lot of the lines just seems off, or even inappropriate at times.

Who is to say that we, as the player, feel the same anger, frustration, and passion that she displays there? What if we feel ambivalent? Should we alter our emotion and perception to match her intensity?

Meer doesnt come across that way. His take leaves a lot of room for you to plug your own emotion into the lines youre hearing from him, rather than feeling guided and steered by them. 

I guess that makes 5 things we agree on. 

Exactly! [/Anderson]

I see you're counting too

[Unschuld]

balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...


It couldn't be from slowly bleeding since he woke up on earth? He was laying in a pool of blood when he woke up.

Then he had to deal with TIM controlling his body, draining his strength.

No because he looks down and all of a sudden he has way more blood on his arms and his hand, and the fact that it's shiny seems to indicate that it's fresh.

You know, with the amount of blood Shepard wakes up in and loses on the Citadel, I'd be surprised that he isn't in hypovolemic shock. I guess that can be explained by the simple fact that it's a videogame, not real life. So, why the hell if he's bleeding from a major vein/artery so profusely does it suddenly stop and then start back up again and then stop? Again, maybe Shepard's armor has built in functions similar to a PASG (you're welcome) and it's failing and only working intermittently. Or maybe it's just as simple as dev rushing/"bioware laziness". Dunno. All I know is that he's not bleeding from the place that he WAS visibly shot (shoulder) and not his abdomen where Anderson was hit.

[HellishFiend]

Riot86 wrote...

We does the VI specificily state, that it will comply? Just one sentence after stating the security protocols were overridden? Why does it make a pause before answering? Did it needed time to process new data? For me, this actually sounds like the VI only complies because these security protocols were overridden.

 

I agree with this. 

Riot86 wrote... 
The question is now, what reason could the VI have to not help Shepard if the security protocols were still running? It has spoken to Shepard on Thessia before and in my playthrough Javik himself told the VI to give me the information I needed. It also recognized the Prothean Cipher, so Shepard should be regarded as trustworthy.

I dont agree with this. We learn that Vendetta is programmed to only reveal the identity of the Catalyst if he is taken to a completed Crucible as proof that the current cycle has a chance of finishing it, in order to avoid the scenario where the Reapers find out what it is prematurely. Shepard's trustworthiness is irrelevant, in that regard. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 07 juin 2012 - 02:31 .