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[Turbo_J]

dmay7 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

dmay7 wrote...

I refuse to believe that Earth was hallucinated. The entire scene of the fleet enter the system is definitley on my top 3 of greatest goosebump giving moments (it's tied with Enterprise rising above Titan in Star Trek XI and the final run of the Suicide Mission).

Not that far back...

My guess is it starts after the shuttle with the heavy weapons team was hit by the Hades. I think both shuttles went down in that area.

That would go with the gun drift previously described.

And the magic Cain that fires guided projectiles

Andeson's brain fade on the 'Born in London' as if he didn't tell you on the Normandy

gun drift/weapons bench

Sparce London scenary - phone booths? - remember, Shep has never been to London.

There was more between the Hades and Push, but I won't rememer it all... its in the 490s I think.

Oh and on the water going up hill on the run... someone mentioned the beam attracting it... No. The wind is going towards the beam, the water is running away from the beam.

[Sero303]

Auralius Carolus wrote...



Sometimes I just can't help myself.

I want this as my screen saver!

[HellishFiend]

dreamgazer wrote...

Huh. So, you guys are tossing the idea around that all of the goodbyes said to the squad-mates might be part of the hallucination?

It's just on the table, is all. You do have to admit it is kind of odd that seemingly all of the people important to Shepard that are not already present just happen to be available by QEC at Shepard's whim. 

It's just another one of those things that can be written off as creative license, but it could also be "artistic integrity" hard at work. 

[llbountyhunter]

ZerebusPrime wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Unschuld wrote...


NICE screen captures.

Here's an idea for someone intrepid enough: Take the entire breath scene frame by frame and construct a single panoramic image of where the camera pans. It'll make lining up objects much easier for identification.

Thats a great idea, actually. I wonder if anyone has both the will and the way to pull something like that off. I certainly dont have the skills or the software necessary to do it. 

It would probably be distorted because of the moving fog. But who knows, might still turn up something useful. 

I fear that the moving smoke would dash any hopes of a truly comprehensive composite image.

it might help actually.... just pick the spots with less smoke and as the smoke shifts it can clear out another spot.

we might end up with a pretty clear image.

if someone knows how to do that of course... 

[Turbo_J]

I'm playing the ending right now a bit at a time - trying to get around the vid card cooling issue... Anyone notice when you fire the gun there are whispers, not just echo? Anyone figure out what they are.

[boeloe]

dreamgazer wrote...

Huh. So, you guys are tossing the idea around that all of the goodbyes said to the squad-mates might be part of the hallucination?

Not me, my guess for when the hallucination takes over completely would be when the mako crashes just before your run to the beam or when you get hit by harby's laser.

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

I'm playing the ending right now a bit at a time - trying to get around the vid card cooling issue... Anyone notice when you fire the gun there are whispers, not just echo? Anyone figure out what they are.

Yes, I am a (if not the only) major proponent of the idea that the "echo" the gun makes in the decision chamber is actually a whisper that's saying "She....pard...."  It's supported by the fact that the whisper/echo is always behind you, regardless of your perspective. That is not the way echo works. 

[llbountyhunter]

Turbo_J wrote...

And the magic Cain that fires guided projectiles

Andeson's brain fade on the 'Born in London' as if he didn't tell you on the Normandy

gun drift/weapons bench

Sparce London scenary - phone booths? - remember, Shep has never been to London.

There was more between the Hades and Push, but I won't rememer it all... its in the 490s I think.

Oh and on the water going up hill on the run... someone mentioned the beam attracting it... No. The wind is going towards the beam, the water is running away from the beam.

1. failed codex entry... just like orginal cain in me2.

2. more like shepards brain fade asking anderson twice if he really was born in london and anderson having to repeat himself (then proceeds to look at shepard oddly)

3. was part of orginal IT stating shepard was clearly not himself during the mission. (but not hallucinating at thing point)

4. please clarify

5. helps my theory actually. 


edit: not saying your wrong, just that there are other explinations...

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 07 juin 2012 - 04:53 .

[HellishFiend]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

And the magic Cain that fires guided projectiles

1. failed codex entry... just like orginal cain in me2.

I propose that part of the reason the Cain's codex entry was scrapped in 2 was because Bioware came up with the idea of the "Cain wrongness" being a clue while developing the Cain for ME2.

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

I'm playing the ending right now a bit at a time - trying to get around the vid card cooling issue... Anyone notice when you fire the gun there are whispers, not just echo? Anyone figure out what they are.

Yes, I am a (if not the only) major proponent of the idea that the "echo" the gun makes in the decision chamber is actually a whisper that's saying "She....pard...."  It's supported by the fact that the whisper/echo is always behind you, regardless of your perspective. That is not the way echo works. 

Especially given the gun and firing explosion is in front of Shep.

For those that missed it, I also provided pics of the Real TIM (Mars) and Not-TIM (Citadel). Images can be found in the 490s as well I think... Maybe I'll be nice and get the page number while this video renders; if anyone is interested of course.

[HellishFiend]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...


Andeson's brain fade on the 'Born in London' as if he didn't tell you on the Normandy

2. more like shepards brain fade asking anderson twice if he really was born in london and anderson having to repeat himself (then proceeds to look at shepard oddly)

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

[llbountyhunter]

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...


Andeson's brain fade on the 'Born in London' as if he didn't tell you on the Normandy

2. more like shepards brain fade asking anderson twice if he really was born in london and anderson having to repeat himself (then proceeds to look at shepard oddly)

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

shepard asks one time, agter some hinting by anderson (pretty sure)  and when anderson repeats later on it shepard  has forgoten. 

Modifié par llbountyhunter, 07 juin 2012 - 05:02 .

[prettz]

HellishFiend wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

prettz wrote...

need a fact check is the following statement correct.

M-6 Carnifex is found by Shepard and the files for the M-3 Predator model are loaded up only at the destroy ending.

Nether the control ending or synthesis ending loads up the M-3 Predator

I can indirectly confirm that. I wasnt the one to personally do it, but I do know that someone claimed to have done it. 

Would the fact that Shepard fires a gun only in Destroy automatically trigger the loading of the Predator---like a default mechanism?

I would have to say no. There is no precedent for that sort of thing happening. The only time where the wrong gun is ever loaded is during the Wrex betrayal scene. Wrex's gun for a short moment is garbled with the models of two guns at the same time, but that is because Bioware used the model of a Claymore and the sound effect of a Graal Spike Thrower. The claymore is properly shown in all but a couple of the camera shots, where for some reason the models for both are present in his hand. 

That is not the case here. The "endgamecarnifex" has its own asset in the game. There would be no reason for it to glitch up and load another gun asset and change to it at that specific moment. 

thanks all. trying to present this agument in the vid. just wanted to check my facts:lol:

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Yes, I am a (if not the only) major proponent of the idea that the "echo" the gun makes in the decision chamber is actually a whisper that's saying "She....pard...."  It's supported by the fact that the whisper/echo is always behind you, regardless of your perspective. That is not the way echo works. 

Especially given the gun and firing explosion is in front of Shep.

Well, actually, the point is that echo always comes from, well, the source of the echo. The source of a sound is not the source of an echo. The source is whatever acoustical surface is bouncing the sound waves back towards you. 

So it cant always be behind you regardless of your perspective. 

[HellishFiend]

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

shepard asks one time, and when anderson repeats it shepards has forgoten. 

I'm fairly certain that Shepard does not ever ask Anderson where he was born. And when Anderson tells him the second time in the mako, Shepard sounds confused that he would repeat it to him. 

[Turbo_J]

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...


Andeson's brain fade on the 'Born in London' as if he didn't tell you on the Normandy

2. more like shepards brain fade asking anderson twice if he really was born in london and anderson having to repeat himself (then proceeds to look at shepard oddly)

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

shepard asks one time, agter some hinting by anderson (pretty sure)  and when anderson repeats later on it shepard  has forgoten. 

Shep never once asked Anderson anything about being 'born in London'. Shep did ask why London was important regarding the Reapers.

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Modifié par Turbo_J, 07 juin 2012 - 05:05 .

[Starbuck8]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

I'm playing the ending right now a bit at a time - trying to get around the vid card cooling issue... Anyone notice when you fire the gun there are whispers, not just echo? Anyone figure out what they are.

Yes, I am a (if not the only) major proponent of the idea that the "echo" the gun makes in the decision chamber is actually a whisper that's saying "She....pard...."  It's supported by the fact that the whisper/echo is always behind you, regardless of your perspective. That is not the way echo works. 

Especially given the gun and firing explosion is in front of Shep.

For those that missed it, I also provided pics of the Real TIM (Mars) and Not-TIM (Citadel). Images can be found in the 490s as well I think... Maybe I'll be nice and get the page number while this video renders; if anyone is interested of course.

Maybe everyone who's got these awesome screen shots that we all agree are potential clues could create an album (on their forum profile, or use the group album) so they don't get buried. Then down the road when people ask or bring it up again, you could link us to the album for reference. Idk, just a thought. Dont mind me

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

shepard asks one time, and when anderson repeats it shepards has forgoten. 

I'm fairly certain that Shepard does not ever ask Anderson where he was born. And when Anderson tells him the second time in the mako UT47-A, Shepard sounds confused that he would repeat it to him. 

Fixed it for ya

[prettz]

did not know about the Rex scene but from the sound of it was done on purpose and glitched at the same time:o

[HellishFiend]

prettz wrote...

thanks all. trying to present this agument in the vid. just wanted to check my facts:lol:

No problem at all. Let us know if you need any more help. We appreciate the work you do on the videos and flycam!

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I'm fairly certain that Shepard does not ever ask Anderson where he was born. And when Anderson tells him the second time in the mako UT47-A, Shepard sounds confused that he would repeat it to him. 

Fixed it for ya

 Ok, I'll take your word for it. 

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I'm fairly certain that Shepard does not ever ask Anderson where he was born. And when Anderson tells him the second time in the mako UT47-A, Shepard sounds confused that he would repeat it to him. 

Fixed it for ya

 Ok, I'll take your word for it. 

It was right after the Hades/Cain fiasco when Anderson and Coates pick up the crew.

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 Ok, I'll take your word for it. 

It was right after the Hades/Cain fiasco when Anderson and Coates pick up the crew.

For some reason I was thinking it was on the ride toward the beam, but on second thought, you're right, it was during the shuttle ride. 

[Turbo_J]

We also left out the 'Thanix missiles' debacle, which is also a scene before the final push/Harbi hit.

I keep forgetting to mention (unless I did and forgot that I had) that this is an ME2 flash back as for the 'task'

EDI calibrating the targeting software; Horrizon.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 07 juin 2012 - 05:11 .

[llbountyhunter]

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

You're mistaken here... Shepard did not ask Anderson any question of the sort. It was extremely random on Anderson's part. 

shepard asks one time, and when anderson repeats it shepards has forgoten. 

I'm fairly certain that Shepard does not ever ask Anderson where he was born. And when Anderson tells him the second time in the mako, Shepard sounds confused that he would repeat it to him. 

oh, well, its been awhile... i thought anderson said something like "yeah I was born in london" in respnse to shepards questions of "where".


anyways shepard himself wouldnt seem odd to us because were seeing things from his prespective, so Its likely that the oddities are not with anderson, but with shepard.