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[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Mass Effect Universe fansite has published its survey results. The site is mostly in German but the data analysis is also in English.
http://www.masseffec...se.de/feedback/

It's awesome to see how many people like the indoctrination theory!

 That survey showed me just how 'typical' I am.
Choose destroy, kept default broshep face, romanced Liara, used her and Garrus as Squadmates and believe in IT.

They actually forgot to include Samara as an LI.

That's because she isn't, even if you "romanced" her in ME2. That wasn't even a romance. She just turned you down, saying "In another time. Another life."

Well, yeah. It was more of a platonic relationship. But not less entertaining. And Samara's remark on casual sex...

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 01:41 .

[UrgentArchengel]

Hey, hows the investigation into the control ending with the Starbringer becoming corporeal going?

[Ravereth]

 

RED - RUBBLE
GREEN - METAL

It's definitely not a building

[Galifreya]

Hehem. I didn't tell anyone not to speculate on blurry ass images. I simply said I do not understand how it is considered evidence, or how someone can be -positive- that that is a building. But twist my words, it's okay.

[Stigweird85]

Unschuld wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Ravereth wrote...

*cough*she*cough*

Ah yes, I should have known from her figure I guess...

This next operation seems pretty easy as well...


http://blog.bioware....ration-mastiff/

 Wait, wait, wait... I'm a girl, but my Shep is male  (Is that strange? )

Nah, I'm a guy but my Shep is (usually) Femshep.  What can I say, I like girls who kick ass!

I'm also a guy who plays as femshep! Modeled my first Shep after my girlfriend!

I don't know why, but femshep seems more...right for Mass Effect, you know? I'm not really sure why, but it feels more right for me to play as femshep than as Sheploo for some reason...

I have only one Shepard - Pragade Sheploo (90% paragon, 10% renegade) and I'm never gona play as femshep, customized maleshep or full renegade one...  

I just love Sheploo too much, I guess 

 

It's not weird, I know of at least one other girl who only plays as MShep.

I only have one Shep, the custom one in my avatar. I never got past Eden Prime with femShep, because I just can't stand the voice. J Hale did a great job with Bastila in KOTOR, but every line she says in the Mass Effect series sounds forced, like she's trying too hard to lower her voice to sound more "badassful". I watched a scene the other day where Vega comes into her quarters, and I just could not help facepalming. Someone put it quite well in another thread, that listening to FemShep reminds me that I'm listening to a voice actress, while Meer's voice seems to be more natural and coming from the character (Shepard) itself. Sure, he doesn't hit every single line perfectly, but every character has a few of those. His flubs just annoy me a lot less.

To each their own though, I suppose

edit

Funny I thought the exact opposite, but as you say to each their own.

[Corik]

Ravereth wrote...

 RED - RUBBLE
GREEN - METAL

It's definitely not a building

I never included the piece of rubble into the ecuation. I'm gonna upload two pics with what I see. I don't have photoshop currently on, just paint.... XD

I will add discontinuous lines for the parts of the "building" hidden by the piece of rubble. The distance between that piece of rubble and the building could be around 30-50 meters. Just to point out my thoughts on the scene.





PS: I miss my drawing tools

Modifié par Corik, 07 juin 2012 - 01:56 .

[estebanus]

Gallifreya wrote...

Hehem. I didn't tell anyone not to speculate on blurry ass images. I simply said I do not understand how it is considered evidence, or how someone can be -positive- that that is a building. But twist my words, it's okay.

I don't see it as evidence, FYI. It's too uncertain. What I do see as evidence in that scene is the rubble. That's the biggest evidence that I can see there. The other things we see in that scne are just pure speculation, and we don't know either way until the extended cut (hopefully) clears that up for us.

[Turbo_J]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

As for the EC. Sorry. I swear at on time it was stated right in the Q/A portion of the blog... Q. Will there be more game play? A. No. BioWare will expanding on the ending to Mass Effect 3 by creating additional cinematics and epilogue scenes to the existing ending sequences... bla bla

But that looks to be altered.

I remember that, and it does look like they took it out. Sneaky sneaky.

Then it appears that my theory may be more correct than I thought and they chose to fold in the proposed Seige of Earth DLC, rather than just making the EC a "more obvious POV on the indoctrination"

I have to agree with that.

Just for the record, ME3 does end* just not where most would like, but it is an ending... with more 'choice' and outcome than both ME1 and ME2 - ME2, however has much more tangible results... and the 'outcome' of ME3 can't be seen put to use because, well, it's supposed to be an END.

I think the original 'post ending' tie up/expansion was eventually going to be 'sold' (though it may have been free for say 3 months or something), and the negative backlash brought them to their senses. If the current endings had a little more to them and an epilogue, I think they could have gotten away with it... even though the epilogue would have eventually been revealed as fake / part of indoctrination - probably not even considered or thought to elaborate. This could be why the EC will have a price tag on it in 2014.

[Stigweird85]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

While I dont condone off topic banter, I'm glad someone finally said it here. That runs through my head every time that topic comes up in this thread (which it does, far too frequently), and it's been killing me that I've been forcing myself not to say it. 

Hale as Femshep comes across as a character in a story. That isnt a bad thing in and of itself, but ME is a different animal. Shepard is supposed to be the player's avatar. Meer plays that role perfectly. It never feels like you're just watching a story play out when listening to Meer, IMO. Listening to femshep makes me feel like I'm watching a movie. 

I don't like the way she sounds. The way she acts just makes my ears hurt. Not that she does a bad job it's just that to me she seems to over acts the lines. It was especially painful when I was going through the dialog files in the game.

Yeah, I particularly dislike her "take" on the Anderson/TIM confrontation in the Citadel. The emotion she displays in a lot of the lines just seems off, or even inappropriate at times.

Who is to say that we, as the player, feel the same anger, frustration, and passion that she displays there? What if we feel ambivalent? Should we alter our emotion and perception to match her intensity?

Meer doesnt come across that way. His take leaves a lot of room for you to plug your own emotion into the lines youre hearing from him, rather than feeling guided and steered by them. 

I guess that makes 5 things we agree on. 

I know this is an old conversation but....

This is what bugs me about Meers performance, the lack of emotion that you like just makes it sound like an actor with no investment in the character reading the script. I get where you are coming from but if you just want a blank slate to project your own emotions why bother with a voice actor at all?  All text ala DA:O allows you to have whatever emotion that you want to have

It's worth nothing that I do like Meer(I have both a Femshep and BroShep) His performance as a Vorcha is brilliant would never know it is him and both actors put in an amazing performance compared to some other games, but of the two JHale is better.

I actually have a theory on this. The Shepard you prefer is the Shepard you played first. For me it was FemShep(I always play female given the opportunity)  I suspect you went the other way?

There are exceptions to the rule but in general I believe that whatever version of something you hear first will be your preferred version. This applied to music/movies/games etc.

[Stigweird85]

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...


I kinda like what someone said earlier, that yes, Shepard has become a legend blah blah, but that doesn't mean the last thing we just saw Shep do caused him to defeat the reapers. Couple that with "one more story" and that implies there is more to come (DLC, more to the ending... speculation). Still most people dismiss it as an ad from EA to buy DLC lol.

I disagree with that interpretation. We've been promised a "Reapers win" ending, remember? There will be situations where people who get that message go on to eventually lose to the Reapers rather than defeating them. 

When was this promised? Also couldn't the "Reapers Win" ending simply be a game over screen with perhaps a short cut scene showing some Repear devestatation? For example, if you wait for the timer to hit 0 on the arrival DLC then you say a short video10-15seconds of various people being burnt/huskified.

[Fingertrip]

The Reapers win if you pick synthesis/control

herp !

[paxxton]

bigstig wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...


I kinda like what someone said earlier, that yes, Shepard has become a legend blah blah, but that doesn't mean the last thing we just saw Shep do caused him to defeat the reapers. Couple that with "one more story" and that implies there is more to come (DLC, more to the ending... speculation). Still most people dismiss it as an ad from EA to buy DLC lol.

I disagree with that interpretation. We've been promised a "Reapers win" ending, remember? There will be situations where people who get that message go on to eventually lose to the Reapers rather than defeating them. 

When was this promised? Also couldn't the "Reapers Win" ending simply be a game over screen with perhaps a short cut scene showing some Repear devestatation? For example, if you wait for the timer to hit 0 on the arrival DLC then you say a short video10-15seconds of various people being burnt/huskified.

Casey Hudson said that in one of the interviews.

[paxxton]

Fingertrip wrote...

The Reapers win if you pick synthesis/control

herp !

The end message disproves that.

[dreamgazer]

paxxton wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

The Reapers win if you pick synthesis/control

herp !

The end message disproves that.

People end violent threats through non-violent, "diplomatic" measures that cater to the other side's wishes all the time. 

[llbountyhunter]

paxxton wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

The Reapers win if you pick synthesis/control

herp !

The end message disproves that.

If the reapers win, then theres nobody left for the reapers to be a threat to.

So, while you didnt kill the repaers, you certanly did end the "reaper threat"

[Turbo_J]

Could you imagine a standoff like ME1 in the Citadel tower where Shep takes on the role of Saren and goes up against either:

The LI and most used quadie
or
LI and closest friend squadie
or
LI and Javik... etc.

or - Wild imagination and impossible as it would be a divergent story arc...

They incapacitate Shep, cryo freeze them and look for a 'cure' after winning the war.

200 years later... ME4

Liara haters would be appalled at that one though, as she's the only one that would be there to revive Shep... again.

[BleedingUranium]

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

The Mass Effect Universe fansite has published its survey results. The site is mostly in German but the data analysis is also in English.
http://www.masseffec...se.de/feedback/

It's awesome to see how many people like the indoctrination theory!

 That survey showed me just how 'typical' I am.
Choose destroy, kept default broshep face, romanced Liara, used her and Garrus as Squadmates and believe in IT.

Same here, though I romanced Miranda first. Then again, she's by far the most popular ME2 romance, by about the same ratio as Liara > Other ME1 so...

[D.Sharrah]

Well...it only took like 2.5 hours for me to catch up with everything that was discussed last night. Definetly some interesting things that have been discussed...as for the breath scene, I don't doubt that there is something there, but I can't help but to think that there might be a slight case of pareidolia going on...its very easy for our minds to try to make sense of what is there. Here is a perfect example from a study at Cambridge...

"O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

Edit:  Also a good example of how our mind isn't always wrong with the "holes" that is tries to fill in!

Modifié par D.Sharrah, 07 juin 2012 - 03:15 .

[paxxton]

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Fingertrip wrote...

The Reapers win if you pick synthesis/control

herp !

The end message disproves that.

If the reapers win, then theres nobody left for the reapers to be a threat to.

So, while you didnt kill the repaers, you certanly did end the "reaper threat"

I meant that in any of the endings the Reapers win. Only annihilation of advanced organics is a win for them.

[Turbo_J]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Well...it only took like 2.5 hours for me to catch up with everything that was discussed last night. Definetly some interesting things that have been discussed...as for the breath scene, I don't doubt that there is something there, but I can't help but to think that there might be a slight case of pareidolia going on...its very easy for our minds to try to make sense of what is there. Here is a perfect example from a study at Cambridge...

"O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

Brilliant. I read it almost without a stammer.

[jojon2se]

200 years? Nonononono, 50,000.

"Ha-ha, primitives."

[Stigweird85]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...


Guess I'm lucky. I've charged things right through the beam. I also tend to charge if I see the beam coming.

I played my insanity run on a NG+. ME3 combat seems easy compared to how ME2 was. It took a while for me to get good enough in 2 to do a NG+ insanity run... even then, I so badly wanted to rage quit on the Collector ship a few times.

ME3 insanity was a laughable cakewalk, difficulty-wise. I died on a fluke maybe once or twice, aside from that I essentially beat the game without ever dying. I used a Sentinel with Defense Matrix as a bonus power, and that plus Tech Armor made me, for all intents and purposes, invulnerable. Killing enemies was a simple matter of having a squadmate use an appropriate primer, and then setting it off with Throw. 

ME2 however, I agree, that Collector ship was a bloody nightmare. 

I'd also add that insanity get easier as the franchise goes on.  ME1 was near impossible for me(mind you I played as a new start armed with a pistol)

[Corik]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Well...it only took like 2.5 hours for me to catch up with everything that was discussed last night. Definetly some interesting things that have been discussed...as for the breath scene, I don't doubt that there is something there, but I can't help but to think that there might be a slight case of pareidolia going on...its very easy for our minds to try to make sense of what is there. Here is a perfect example from a study at Cambridge...

"O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

I have to agree. I said previously that I may be biased because of my job. Still I find it quite funny how everybody were talking about a clock or a cathedral in the fog where I couldn't see anything and something I never gave importance like the building I said in my last posts because it was soooo clear to me that I always thought that wasn't important at all, nobody seems to see what I see.

Funny. Unsettling, but funny.

[paxxton]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Well...it only took like 2.5 hours for me to catch up with everything that was discussed last night. Definetly some interesting things that have been discussed...as for the breath scene, I don't doubt that there is something there, but I can't help but to think that there might be a slight case of pareidolia going on...its very easy for our minds to try to make sense of what is there. Here is a perfect example from a study at Cambridge...

"O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

Seeing similar patterns and filling in the gaps.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 03:16 .

[D.Sharrah]

Turbo_J wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Well...it only took like 2.5 hours for me to catch up with everything that was discussed last night. Definetly some interesting things that have been discussed...as for the breath scene, I don't doubt that there is something there, but I can't help but to think that there might be a slight case of pareidolia going on...its very easy for our minds to try to make sense of what is there. Here is a perfect example from a study at Cambridge...

"O lny srmat poelpe can raed tihs.
I cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, t he olny iprmoatnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be in the rgh it pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Amzanig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt! if you can raed tihs psas it on !!"

Brilliant. I read it almost without a stammer.

Amazing isn't it...also I added an edit (suggesting that even if its a case of pareidoila, doesn't mean that is wrong).