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[Andromidius]

Hello there. Trying to catch up to everything said in this thread is next to impossible, I gave up around page 250 when I noticed each time I finished skim-reading a page the thread had already increased by another page. Or three.

So I'm skipping ahead and going to try and keep up to date. Must say its all been very interesting stuff, some very convincing and some not-so convincing and some that's just blown my mind so hard I actually couldn't think for a few seconds (namely - Control, Alt, Delete = Task Manager. Just wow, what a coincidence/massive clue).

Nothing else to really add, other then to say this thread has helped me get over my anger towards ME3's ending. And weirdly, convinced me to start doing Multiplayer (though I can't bring myself to play single player again. Yet). Just another voice in support of all the hard work done!

[HellishFiend]

Andromidius wrote...

Hello there. Trying to catch up to everything said in this thread is next to impossible, I gave up around page 250 when I noticed each time I finished skim-reading a page the thread had already increased by another page. Or three.

So I'm skipping ahead and going to try and keep up to date. Must say its all been very interesting stuff, some very convincing and some not-so convincing and some that's just blown my mind so hard I actually couldn't think for a few seconds (namely - Control, Alt, Delete = Task Manager. Just wow, what a coincidence/massive clue).

Nothing else to really add, other then to say this thread has helped me get over my anger towards ME3's ending. And weirdly, convinced me to start doing Multiplayer (though I can't bring myself to play single player again. Yet). Just another voice in support of all the hard work done!

Thank you! We appreciate your support and appreciation. Glad to help. 

Feel free to chime in anytime you have any comments or things to add!

[GethPrimeMKII]

byne wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...


Would it make you feel better if that battle with Leng could be won? I'm not really trying to defend anything so I don't know why you're getting excited.

Hmmm a game like this you can't always win, and that's why I like Priority Thessia because not matter what happens you always lose.

I remember people speculated before the game came out that Kai Leng was at some point going to give Shepard a No Holds Barred Beatdown as a way of showing the players and Shepard that she isnt invincible.

I'd have preferred that to the "Tee hee! I'm gonna shine lights in your eyes! Then I'm gonna send you the email equivalent of a rickroll later! Tee hee, I'm such a naughty boy!" crap we got from Kai Leng on Thessia.

I thought the fight on Thessia was well done because of how much it made me hate Kai leng. Even with the gunship aiding him, victory seemed attainable so long as I pushed hard enough, but in the end Kai snatches victory out of my hands and casually walks off with the VI. The email afterward was just icing on the troll-cake. He absolutely had to die.

[byne]

Yknow, all this talk of Lavender Town reminds me of why I dont like to play Pokemon Red/Blue (Or FireRed/LeafGreen) anymore

[paxxton]

I'm not sure but I think I saw a straight standing human figure while the committee's desk was flying towards it in Vancouver HQ.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 08:59 .

[paxxton]

llbountyhunter wrote...

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...


I don't think I've mentioned this before, but the music in the decision room gives me headaches after a while, and so does this youtube video. (Mind you, this is not a general reaction i have to music, it's just for this weird sound. My brain apparently cannot process it properly or something.)

Edit: faszinating, Nintendo used this effect in the "endless staircase" in Mario 64 www.youtube.com/watch

Certain combinations of tones and pitches are certainly capable of causing headaches. 

Yknow what always made me feel weird?

Freakin Lavender Town.

Gah, I have it playing in another tab just so I could get the link and it already makes me feel weird. Damn you Lavender Town! Damn you!

Ahhhh what a soothing lullaby.... 



Jk, is this that song that susposedly made chhildren comit suicide or something, i know thats not true, but still..

This might be using a similar sound effect:

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 09:07 .

[ivenoidea]

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

Modifié par ivenoidea, 07 juin 2012 - 09:10 .

[Andromidius]

Well, the main things I have noticed is the surreal nature of the latter sections of the game. Almost as if Shepard's mind is slowly crumbling.

Many of the finer details were lost on me during my first (and only) playthrough due to the fact I completed it all within three days and was buzzing like crazy off caffiene and adrenaline. Which lends itself well to the idea of Shepard not noticing weird goings on, since he/she would have been going through much worse mental strain then myself as a player.

I did notice some of the obvious things during the end pretty quickly though:

1/ Unlimited ammo on the Carnifex. I didn't notice the reload though, despite having a Carnifex as a side arm, since I played as a Soldier and thus was using my Revenant 90% of the time.

2/ Armour was wrong. Mine was red, not grey. I chalked it down to 'badly done burn effects' at the time.

3/ Floaty movement, like I was sliding around on ice. Didn't think much of it at the time, felt like maybe it was a gameplay elements to speed things up (since limping that slowly would have probably doubled the length of the final parts).

4/ Things Anderson was saying, they just didn't add up. How did he know he was ahead of me, for example? How did he know we were even walking in the same direction?

5/ TIM smacked of Saren. Felt like I was back at the end of ME1 again, and while 'going full circle' sometimes works well this time it felt wrong. Didn't feel like I was talking to TIM in his right frame of mind.

6/ Starbinger just confused me. I actually stumbled into Destroy quite by accident (despite actually wanting to do it, I didn't know where it was or how I did it).

7/ The final cutscene left me thinking... Well, very bad things. I beleive I may have even said "So what, the whole game was a fairy tale?"

Will you believe I didn't actually notice the fact the UI was gone though? The most obvious thing, completely unnoticed!

But yeah, the whole thing led me to making a rather sad video about how I felt about the game as a whole. And while I hate shameless self-promotion, if anyone wants to see how badly I reacted to it all its right here:

If only I'd stumbled onto the previous thread

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

byne wrote...

Yknow, all this talk of Lavender Town reminds me of why I dont like to play Pokemon Red/Blue (Or FireRed/LeafGreen) anymore

...

Wow...

Reminds me of the theory on what happened to the Ikana in Legend of Zelda: Majora´s Mask. Ultra dark stuff in an already dark game

http://www.zeldauniv...f-majoras-mask/

Long read, but this along with the above says something about hwo much can be hidden beneath the surface of an otherwise simple looking game.

It is similar to what we hope for except that the hidden stuff is supposed to be revealed and not simply something up for interpretation.

[HellishFiend]

ivenoidea wrote...

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

According to google, its  Romanian for "Highlights".

[paxxton]

ivenoidea wrote...

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

My French is as good as yours but thanks to Bing Translator Le Repere means mark (a sign).

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

According to google, its  Romanian for "Highlights".

It means A Mark of David.

[byne]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, all this talk of Lavender Town reminds me of why I dont like to play Pokemon Red/Blue (Or FireRed/LeafGreen) anymore

...

Wow...

Reminds me of the theory on what happened to the Ikana in Legend of Zelda: Majora´s Mask. Ultra dark stuff in an already dark game

http://www.zeldauniv...f-majoras-mask/

Long read, but this along with the above says something about hwo much can be hidden beneath the surface of an otherwise simple looking game.

It is similar to what we hope for except that the hidden stuff is supposed to be revealed and not simply something up for interpretation.

Was Majora's Mask actually a good game? I remember when I was a kid I hated it, but I think thats because I didnt actually understand the whole three day cycle thing...

[llbountyhunter]

paxxton wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

My French is as good as yours but thanks to Bing Translator Le Repere means mark (a sign).

Well this is news.... people use bing?

[paxxton]

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

paxxton wrote...

-snip-

This might be using a similar sound effect:

My french is horrible. Does "Le Reper" mean "The Reaper"?

GET YOUR TINFOIL HATS PEOPLE!

Also, i should stop listening to that stuff, my head is killing me.

My French is as good as yours but thanks to Bing Translator Le Repere means mark (a sign).

Well this is news.... people use bing?

Yup, and I love it.

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 09:17 .

[Andromidius]

byne wrote...

Was Majora's Mask actually a good game? I remember when I was a kid I hated it, but I think thats because I didnt actually understand the whole three day cycle thing...

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Its possibly my favourite Nintendo game ever made.  The fact its so trippy and surreal, the combat is tight, the story and plot are a break from the norm for Zelda games, and the ticking clock really make the game very urgent*.  But my goodness, the game got hard quickly.  Much harder then Ocarina of Time, I never actually managed to ENTER the 3rd temple because of one of the pre-quests to get access to the Water Temple.  Still amazing though.

*Side note.  ME3 needed a galactic countdown.  Like a cutoff point where you had to prepare for the final battle, and then it comes ready or not.  Would have ment choices actually, you know, mattered - who do you spend time trying to win over, what side quests do you take the time to complete, etc.  But I digress.

[byne]

All this talk of weird music, and I just remembered the game with the worst music ever. Of all time.

I give you, Crazy Bus*.





*I take no responsibility for any loss of hearing and/or sanity that results from clicking on that link.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

All this talk of weird music, and I just remembered the game with the worst music ever. Of all time.

I give you, Crazy Bus*.





*I take no responsibility for any loss of hearing and/or sanity that results from clicking on that link.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, all this talk of Lavender Town reminds me of why I dont like to play Pokemon Red/Blue (Or FireRed/LeafGreen) anymore

...

Wow...

Reminds me of the theory on what happened to the Ikana in Legend of Zelda: Majora´s Mask. Ultra dark stuff in an already dark game

http://www.zeldauniv...f-majoras-mask/

Long read, but this along with the above says something about hwo much can be hidden beneath the surface of an otherwise simple looking game.

It is similar to what we hope for except that the hidden stuff is supposed to be revealed and not simply something up for interpretation.

Was Majora's Mask actually a good game? I remember when I was a kid I hated it, but I think thats because I didnt actually understand the whole three day cycle thing...

It is among the greatest games in the world...though you might want to take that with grain of salt as i am major Legend of Zelda fan boy.

Still just about every single one of the Legend of Zelda games are incredible in their own way and fans argue to death which is the best one (my personal is Skyward Sword). Majoras Mask is certainly one of the more atypical with its 3. day cycle and I hated it at first as I have had a major problem with time pressure.

But the game is filled with incredible content. A massive mask side quest and a an expansive world. It is also largely considered the darkest Legend of Zelda not just counting the moon that is falling.

Wont go to much into dteail as taht is seriusly off topic and i could go on for hours.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 07 juin 2012 - 09:24 .

[HellishFiend]

Andromidius wrote...

Well, the main things I have noticed is the surreal nature of the latter sections of the game. Almost as if Shepard's mind is slowly crumbling.

Many of the finer details were lost on me during my first (and only) playthrough due to the fact I completed it all within three days and was buzzing like crazy off caffiene and adrenaline. Which lends itself well to the idea of Shepard not noticing weird goings on, since he/she would have been going through much worse mental strain then myself as a player.

I did notice some of the obvious things during the end pretty quickly though:

1/ Unlimited ammo on the Carnifex. I didn't notice the reload though, despite having a Carnifex as a side arm, since I played as a Soldier and thus was using my Revenant 90% of the time.

2/ Armour was wrong. Mine was red, not grey. I chalked it down to 'badly done burn effects' at the time.

3/ Floaty movement, like I was sliding around on ice. Didn't think much of it at the time, felt like maybe it was a gameplay elements to speed things up (since limping that slowly would have probably doubled the length of the final parts).

4/ Things Anderson was saying, they just didn't add up. How did he know he was ahead of me, for example? How did he know we were even walking in the same direction?

5/ TIM smacked of Saren. Felt like I was back at the end of ME1 again, and while 'going full circle' sometimes works well this time it felt wrong. Didn't feel like I was talking to TIM in his right frame of mind.

6/ Starbinger just confused me. I actually stumbled into Destroy quite by accident (despite actually wanting to do it, I didn't know where it was or how I did it).

7/ The final cutscene left me thinking... Well, very bad things. I beleive I may have even said "So what, the whole game was a fairy tale?"

Will you believe I didn't actually notice the fact the UI was gone though? The most obvious thing, completely unnoticed!

But yeah, the whole thing led me to making a rather sad video about how I felt about the game as a whole. And while I hate shameless self-promotion, if anyone wants to see how badly I reacted to it all its right here:

If only I'd stumbled onto the previous thread

Those are all great points, thanks for sharing. 

I noticed the UI was gone, but I didnt realize the significance until I read that there is a progression to the dreams

In the first dream, you still have your weapons, and there are no oily shadows, and there is minimal whispering
By the second dream, your weapons are gone, there are oily shadows, and the whispering is more pronounced, and becomes almost violent as you approach the kid for the last time
In the third dream, the amount of paper scraps flying around has dramatically increased, and the kid is constantly running away from you. In addition, your doppelganger is seen burning along with the kid while smiling.

It all seems like a progression to me. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 07 juin 2012 - 09:23 .

[paxxton]

This is nice:

Modifié par paxxton, 07 juin 2012 - 09:29 .

[Jamie9]

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

All this talk of weird music, and I just remembered the game with the worst music ever. Of all time.

I give you, Crazy Bus*.





*I take no responsibility for any loss of hearing and/or sanity that results from clicking on that link.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's like when you give a young child one of those plastic electronic keyboards and they just bang on it over and over again! AAarrrgghh!

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

Andromidius wrote...

byne wrote...

Was Majora's Mask actually a good game? I remember when I was a kid I hated it, but I think thats because I didnt actually understand the whole three day cycle thing...

Short answer: Yes.

Long answer: Its possibly my favourite Nintendo game ever made.  The fact its so trippy and surreal, the combat is tight, the story and plot are a break from the norm for Zelda games, and the ticking clock really make the game very urgent*.  But my goodness, the game got hard quickly.  Much harder then Ocarina of Time, I never actually managed to ENTER the 3rd temple because of one of the pre-quests to get access to the Water Temple.  Still amazing though.

*Side note.  ME3 needed a galactic countdown.  Like a cutoff point where you had to prepare for the final battle, and then it comes ready or not.  Would have ment choices actually, you know, mattered - who do you spend time trying to win over, what side quests do you take the time to complete, etc.  But I digress.

I would almost say be glad you never amde it into the 3. temple. It is killer, even when compared to thye Ocarina water temple and the boss is ridicoulsly hard unlike the ocarina of time water temple boss...

...and now I need to get back on topic before I lose myself in discussing Legend fo Zelda.

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

byne wrote...

Yknow, all this talk of Lavender Town reminds me of why I dont like to play Pokemon Red/Blue (Or FireRed/LeafGreen) anymore

...

Wow...

Reminds me of the theory on what happened to the Ikana in Legend of Zelda: Majora´s Mask. Ultra dark stuff in an already dark game

http://www.zeldauniv...f-majoras-mask/

Long read, but this along with the above says something about hwo much can be hidden beneath the surface of an otherwise simple looking game.

It is similar to what we hope for except that the hidden stuff is supposed to be revealed and not simply something up for interpretation.

Was Majora's Mask actually a good game? I remember when I was a kid I hated it, but I think thats because I didnt actually understand the whole three day cycle thing...

I liked the game and I remember the "time reset" thing was not that annoying IMO. Just play a song before it's too late. Sometimes you had to change time to do certain quests I think.

And I loved exploring that weird world.

[HellishFiend]

Jamie9 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

byne wrote...

All this talk of weird music, and I just remembered the game with the worst music ever. Of all time.

I give you, Crazy Bus*.





*I take no responsibility for any loss of hearing and/or sanity that results from clicking on that link.

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

It's like when you give a young child one of those plastic electronic keyboards and they just bang on it over and over again! AAarrrgghh!

Wow. It's the videogame music equivalent of Rebecca Black's Friday.