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[TJBartlemus]

You know what absolutly mystifies me is how BioWare is so all over the place in quality. It does great work in most of it's games and then messes up things like with Executor Pallin. They killed him off in a comic before the game came out and then messed up in the next game?

http://masseffect.wi...Executor_Pallin

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 08 juin 2012 - 12:43 .

[paxxton]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

London seems more and more a hallucination. In that context what meaning could Liara's gift have?

No idea. Like I just mentioned to Dante, I find it incredibly difficult to have all this evidence point towards a particular conclusion....

Well, if Shep is unconscious in London, partially buried in the rubble, has been treated as best possible with Medigel, can't be moved without aid from real field docs due to, maybe rebar jutting out of their leg... Maybe Liara figured Shep should be conscious after the Medigel treatment and goes into their mind to see why they aren't. Maybe she is trying to pull Shep out of the Indoctrination attempt.

Something to help ME stomach your idea a bit more, if you think this is the case and that London was basically a sonnambulist battle, what do you think happened in it's place? How did Shepard get where he did? What happened in place of the Cain hitting the Hades Cannon? Was Shepard just running around, claiming he heard orders, his squaddies beliving it and firing heavy weapons pointlessly at a Destroyer when the Fleet was really preparing to fire?

I guess Shepard is still lying in the rubble besides a bench in Vancouver HQ. Or somewhere on the Cronos Station.

[Andromidius]

HellishFiend wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Sort of like how humans have refined the act of throwing an object into modern day firearms? 

Exactly. 

That would add on to the notion the Reapers are 'beyond our understanding'. 

They are to us what we are to animals - we might understand what they are doing to us, but we don't understand how (just like an animal understands that a gunshot will kill, but (probably, let's not discount it ) doesn't understand the concept of ballistics.

Awesome!

[Turbo_J]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

But you just push a button and he appears whenever you wish. He obviously doesn't do anything at the Crucible's building site.

To be fair, this is only true in the segments where Traynor specifically tells you Hackett is available. 

Yeah, but still it's kinda funny.

My opinion of you wavers.

[BleedingUranium]

What page was the concept art of Shepard pulling Shepard out of the rubble on? That is one of the strongest pieces of evidence IT was planned, for me. Along with those dev tweets from a day or two after release.

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Something to help ME stomach your idea a bit more, if you think this is the case and that London was basically a sonnambulist battle, what do you think happened in it's place? How did Shepard get where he did? What happened in place of the Cain hitting the Hades Cannon? Was Shepard just running around, claiming he heard orders, his squaddies beliving it and firing heavy weapons pointlessly at a Destroyer when the Fleet was really preparing to fire?

Questions we cannot answer, hence why I am reticent with any conclusions I might otherwise be inclined to discuss. It would require too much random guesswork.

The evidence points towards something, but we have no way of knowing what it's pointing to. At least not yet. We may find something. Two months ago we would have thought it preposterous to question the reality of anything prior to harby's beam. 

[EpyonX3]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

prettz wrote...

ugh to many pages to read anyways have we noticed how star child filters out much of the electricity when viewed from it's body

Very nice but a bit creepy. Would be good for a wallpaper but it's too bright.

Same string of thought here. Beautiful shot, like something from deviantart, only from BW. Btw, using flycam to shoot things from a good enough perspective to make it look beautiful = photography. So here a new niche for photography: flycaming Mass Effect 3.

I can get into that!

[Turbo_J]

Andromidius wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

I missed the cobras too, andi t was definitely a frustratingly hard fight for me!  The sad part is that I was playing as a vanguard. 

Playing as a Vanguard in my recent ME2 playthrough.

I've cursed whoever balanced the game several times already.  Its mega frustrating, and the worst thing is I know its because I suck and not because Vanguards are bad.

Though Shotguns are.  Definately.  Terrible.

Geth shotgun + fire = win

[dmay7]

I just had a horrible revelation...what if the the majority of ME1, 2, and 3 are actually in Shepards head, and are actually his vision from the beacon?

(Bioware, please, I beg you, don't get any ideas).

[Andromidius]

I have to wonder what that scribbly line where Starbinger's mouth should be is...

[TJBartlemus]

"That would add on to the notion the Reapers are 'beyond our understanding'." 

Yeah, I didn't get that. Sovereign said in the first game that exact thing and when the ending comes and star child explains that they just preserve us in Reaper form, it seems completely understandable. So uhh, am I missing something?

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 08 juin 2012 - 12:49 .

[HellishFiend]

TJBartlemus wrote...

You know what absolutly mystifies me is how BioWare is so all over the place in quality. It does great work in most of it's games and then messes up things like with Executor Pallin. They killed him off in a comic before the game came out and then messed up in the next game?

http://masseffect.wi...Executor_Pallin

Yeah, that is a disappointing mistake, but one where I am inclined to lean on the "Humans make mistakes" tree. 

[Arian Dynas]

paxxton wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

London seems more and more a hallucination. In that context what meaning could Liara's gift have?

No idea. Like I just mentioned to Dante, I find it incredibly difficult to have all this evidence point towards a particular conclusion....

Well, if Shep is unconscious in London, partially buried in the rubble, has been treated as best possible with Medigel, can't be moved without aid from real field docs due to, maybe rebar jutting out of their leg... Maybe Liara figured Shep should be conscious after the Medigel treatment and goes into their mind to see why they aren't. Maybe she is trying to pull Shep out of the Indoctrination attempt.

Something to help ME stomach your idea a bit more, if you think this is the case and that London was basically a sonnambulist battle, what do you think happened in it's place? How did Shepard get where he did? What happened in place of the Cain hitting the Hades Cannon? Was Shepard just running around, claiming he heard orders, his squaddies beliving it and firing heavy weapons pointlessly at a Destroyer when the Fleet was really preparing to fire?

I guess Shepard is still lying in the rubble besides a bench in Vancouver HQ. Or somewhere on the Cronos Station.

Paxxton, no offense, but if that's the case, that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

[Ctoagu]

Turbo_J wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

I missed the cobras too, andi t was definitely a frustratingly hard fight for me!  The sad part is that I was playing as a vanguard. 

Playing as a Vanguard in my recent ME2 playthrough.

I've cursed whoever balanced the game several times already.  Its mega frustrating, and the worst thing is I know its because I suck and not because Vanguards are bad.

Though Shotguns are.  Definately.  Terrible.

Geth shotgun + fire = win

Does anyone remember the shotguns back in ME1? I once put a few High Explosive X mods onto one and laughed at how everyone's home planet needed them.

[HellishFiend]

dmay7 wrote...

I just had a horrible revelation...what if the the majority of ME1, 2, and 3 are actually in Shepards head, and are actually his vision from the beacon?

(Bioware, please, I beg you, don't get any ideas).

That is an author's cheap way out of a plot he cant figure how to resolve. Bioware is better than that, you can be sure. 

[BleedingUranium]

TJBartlemus wrote...

You know what absolutly mystifies me is how BioWare is so all over the place in quality. It does great work in most of it's games and then messes up things like with Executor Pallin. They killed him off in a comic before the game came out and then messed up in the next game?

http://masseffect.wi...Executor_Pallin

Well, if you remove Pallin's name from the codex entry, it works perfectly, and just refers to the new Executor, the one you find dead. I see that as a codex oversight.

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Something to help ME stomach your idea a bit more, if you think this is the case and that London was basically a sonnambulist battle, what do you think happened in it's place? How did Shepard get where he did? What happened in place of the Cain hitting the Hades Cannon? Was Shepard just running around, claiming he heard orders, his squaddies beliving it and firing heavy weapons pointlessly at a Destroyer when the Fleet was really preparing to fire?

Questions we cannot answer, hence why I am reticent with any conclusions I might otherwise be inclined to discuss. It would require too much random guesswork.

The evidence points towards something, but we have no way of knowing what it's pointing to. At least not yet. We may find something. Two months ago we would have thought it preposterous to question the reality of anything prior to harby's beam. 

Well then theorize with me here! Lots of speculation! C'mon throw me a bone, give me your best guesstimate.

[Andromidius]

dmay7 wrote...

I just had a horrible revelation...what if the the majority of ME1, 2, and 3 are actually in Shepards head, and are actually his vision from the beacon?

(Bioware, please, I beg you, don't get any ideas).

I thought of that too, but discounted it.

The main reason is you've already seen Sovereign, and Nillus has been murdered by Saren, and people have already been turned into Husks.

To throw everything after that away would still leave you with those events, and no answers as to what is actually going on.  If those things happened AFTER the Beacon, and you'd only been fighting rogue Geth in the colony it would have some merit, but...  Nah.

Not to mention it would mean I never met Garrus or Tali.  And that does not fly with me.

[paxxton]

dmay7 wrote...

I just had a horrible revelation...what if the the majority of ME1, 2, and 3 are actually in Shepards head, and are actually his vision from the beacon?

(Bioware, please, I beg you, don't get any ideas).

To this idea I have only one answer:

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...
On a similar note, that Thermal Pipe you get for Adams never goes anywhere either. On my first playthrough I was like "Oh, this is going to be just like the three important upgrades in ME2", especially when they described the exact situation it would be useful in...

Yeah, really hard to believe that over 2 or 3 dozen lines of cutscene were spent on something that gives you a few EMS. 

And if IT is true and you don't get the GX-12 what do you think may happen to the engineering team as they fight above Earth? What do you think may happen to the entire ship?

Get the pipe. What's a thousand credits and some random chatter to take your mind off, say, political crap or a reaper war for a bit.?

[Andromidius]

TJBartlemus wrote...

Yeah, I didn't get that. Sovereign said in the first game that exact thing and when the ending comes and star child explains that they just preserve us in Reaper form, it seems completely understandable. So uhh, am I missing something?

Totally.  I understood the Reapers based on what I was told by Starbinger.  Just like I understand what happened when a dog wees on my carpet.

Doesn't make it big or clever.  And I'm certainly not going to feel enlightened for accepting that nonsense.

[Jamie9]

I don't really consider the comics as canon... so Pallin's fate isn't contradictory. I accept the novels (yes, even Deception...), but the comics seem to take away more than they add.

Just like TIM's backstory. We don't need to know that. It's part of his character. So I don't consider them canon

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Something to help ME stomach your idea a bit more, if you think this is the case and that London was basically a sonnambulist battle, what do you think happened in it's place? How did Shepard get where he did? What happened in place of the Cain hitting the Hades Cannon? Was Shepard just running around, claiming he heard orders, his squaddies beliving it and firing heavy weapons pointlessly at a Destroyer when the Fleet was really preparing to fire?

Questions we cannot answer, hence why I am reticent with any conclusions I might otherwise be inclined to discuss. It would require too much random guesswork.

The evidence points towards something, but we have no way of knowing what it's pointing to. At least not yet. We may find something. Two months ago we would have thought it preposterous to question the reality of anything prior to harby's beam. 

Well then theorize with me here! Lots of speculation! C'mon throw me a bone, give me your best guesstimate.

Alright, give me a few minutes to gather my thoughts and I'll try and come up with something. 

[Arian Dynas]

dmay7 wrote...

I just had a horrible revelation...what if the the majority of ME1, 2, and 3 are actually in Shepards head, and are actually his vision from the beacon?

(Bioware, please, I beg you, don't get any ideas).

I take it back, THAT'S the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Well... actually on second thought... what if the last scene is Shepard waking up from the beacon and things play out exactly as we just saw and the whole thing was a vision of the futu... nope, still the stupidest thing I've ever heard since it's a pointless mind**** then. Nevermind.

[Andromidius]

Ctoagu wrote...

Does anyone remember the shotguns back in ME1? I once put a few High Explosive X mods onto one and laughed at how everyone's home planet needed them.

I gave one to Wrex as a little test to see what would happen.

He was one shotting Geth Destroyers 0_o