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#1426
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Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


WHAT THE FU-

Shut up.

oh I'm sorry I jus-

No, just shut up.

But seriously, mind posting a link?

Modifié par Boradam, 16 mai 2012 - 05:48 .


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estebanus wrote...

Sooo... I found something pretty hilarious when I played through the ending again, and decided to make a screenshot of it. here you go:

http://i.imgur.com/0TZm1.jpg


Where... where is it? Someone else claimed to see that, too...:

Icinix wrote...
[...]

In
the Normandy Crash scene - a giant pulsing glowing ball is in the
center of the world (I believe its used for the coloured light bar at
the bottom of your screen as I found it in Destroy and it was red) - and
next to it is your Shepard model in their damaged armour
.


Modifié par MaximizedAction, 16 mai 2012 - 05:53 .


#1428
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Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Probably just the long needed multiplayer patch lol

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[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...

Sooo... I found something pretty hilarious when I played through the ending again, and decided to make a screenshot of it. here you go:

http://i.imgur.com/0TZm1.jpg[/quote]

Where... where is it? Someone else claimed to see that, too...[/quote]
The player has to be placed somewhere, not seeing anything special.
[quote]MaximizedAction wrote...

[quote]estebanus wrote...
[quote]Icinix wrote...
[...]

In
the Normandy Crash scene - a giant pulsing glowing ball is in the
center of the world (I believe its used for the coloured light bar at
the bottom of your screen as I found it in Destroy and it was red) - and
next to it is your Shepard model in their damaged armour
.[/quote][/quote]
Not seeing any lights.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 16 mai 2012 - 05:55 .


#1430
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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

Modifié par Dwailing, 16 mai 2012 - 05:57 .


#1431
Raistlin Majare 1992

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paxxton wrote...

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 16 mai 2012 - 05:58 .


#1432
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Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

The patch can very well include new stuff for the DLCs that are coming. Especially with the MP DLC that comes in a few days.
http://blog.bioware....ilencer-update/

Already, we are implementing plans to supply our forces with a better arsenal so that, when we next meet the enemy, they are ours.

Meaning the next DLC seems to come before the next event.

#1433
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.

Modifié par paxxton, 16 mai 2012 - 06:04 .


#1434
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Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.


I think you're referring to this:  twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/202057276159295488

He also said patches are just "fixes".  It has nothing to do with the EC or any other DLC

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 16 mai 2012 - 06:06 .


#1435
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MaximizedAction wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Sooo... I found something pretty hilarious when I played through the ending again, and decided to make a screenshot of it. here you go:

http://i.imgur.com/0TZm1.jpg


Where... where is it? Someone else claimed to see that, too...:




It's right after the Normandy crashes. You can also see it during the scene where the Normandy flees, I think.

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paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.


The "side-effect" research of Sanctuary amounted to a way to create "husk like creatures" and that process was obviusly not transportable in case you dident notice the massive tubes the colonists were placed in.

That is a pretty far cry from instantenous near perfect organic control, something not even the Reapers have acchieved after existing for more than a billion years of existence <_<

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 16 mai 2012 - 06:10 .


#1437
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MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

The patch can very well include new stuff for the DLCs that are coming. Especially with the MP DLC that comes in a few days.
http://blog.bioware....ilencer-update/

Already, we are implementing plans to supply our forces with a better arsenal so that, when we next meet the enemy, they are ours.

Meaning the next DLC seems to come before the next event.


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ we failed to kill 3,000,000 Banshees! :crying:

Edited 

Modifié par Dwailing, 16 mai 2012 - 06:11 .


#1438
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.


The "side-effect" research of Sanctuary amounted to a way to create "husk like creatures" and that process was obviusly not transportable in case you dident notice the massive tubes the colonists were placed in.

That is a pretty far cry from near perfect organic control.

The tubes aren't needed if the nanides are air-borne.

Modifié par paxxton, 16 mai 2012 - 06:16 .


#1439
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LazyTechGuy wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.


I think you're referring to this:  twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/202057276159295488

He also said patches are just "fixes".  It has nothing to do with the EC or any other DLC


I figured as much, it just seemed weird that he would use those words.  You know, "discuss the contents."  He could have just said that they would reveal the contents, but he said discuss, which makes me wonder if there is something else in there.

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Dwailing wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.


I think you're referring to this:  twitter.com/#!/BioEvilChris/status/202057276159295488

He also said patches are just "fixes".  It has nothing to do with the EC or any other DLC


I figured as much, it just seemed weird that he would use those words.  You know, "discuss the contents."  He could have just said that they would reveal the contents, but he said discuss, which makes me wonder if there is something else in there.



Maybe they're patching in the vorcha multplayer DLC?

#1441
Raistlin Majare 1992

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paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.


The "side-effect" research of Sanctuary amounted to a way to create "husk like creatures" and that process was obviusly not transportable in case you dident notice the massive tubes the colonists were placed in.

That is a pretty far cry from near perfect organic control.

The tubes aren't needed if the nanides are air-borne.


Give me an instance of airborne nanites in Mass Effect then, please? Even the dragon teeth require contact to convert someone.

Also a husk is mindless, both Shepard and Anderson retain their minds and you fail to realize that any airbone nanites if it indeed was would target TIM as well, essentially making it a suicide attack.

#1442
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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

The patch can very well include new stuff for the DLCs that are coming. Especially with the MP DLC that comes in a few days.
http://blog.bioware....ilencer-update/

Already, we are implementing plans to supply our forces with a better arsenal so that, when we next meet the enemy, they are ours.

Meaning the next DLC seems to come before the next event.


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/  We FAILED to kill 3,000,000 Banshees?


When you think about it, 3 mio are quite a lot. After all, I think they are the hardest ones to beat.
So, if you think about parallels to SP, this fits to how Thessia was lost eventually.

#1443
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Dwailing wrote...
I figured as much, it just seemed weird that he would use those words.  You know, "discuss the contents."  He could have just said that they would reveal the contents, but he said discuss, which makes me wonder if there is something else in there.


Nah. They're all about "discussing", "speculating" and "listening". They encourage all opinions and look forward to having an open colloquy with fans. Yadda yadda bleh blah.

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 16 mai 2012 - 06:14 .


#1444
MegumiAzusa

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Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

The patch can very well include new stuff for the DLCs that are coming. Especially with the MP DLC that comes in a few days.
http://blog.bioware....ilencer-update/

Already, we are implementing plans to supply our forces with a better arsenal so that, when we next meet the enemy, they are ours.

Meaning the next DLC seems to come before the next event.


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ we failed to kill 3,000,000 Banshees! :crying:

Edited 

Yeah, you were all noobs, once and for all. :D

#1445
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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.

The patch can very well include new stuff for the DLCs that are coming. Especially with the MP DLC that comes in a few days.
http://blog.bioware....ilencer-update/

Already, we are implementing plans to supply our forces with a better arsenal so that, when we next meet the enemy, they are ours.

Meaning the next DLC seems to come before the next event.


http://nooooooooooooooo.com/  We FAILED to kill 3,000,000 Banshees?


When you think about it, 3 mio are quite a lot. After all, I think they are the hardest ones to beat.
So, if you think about parallels to SP, this fits to how Thessia was lost eventually.


I know three million is a lot, but I expected better from the N7 SpecOps Team.  Unless they made it such a massive number specifically so we WOULD fail to help introduce the new DLC.... Ugh, speculations.

#1446
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paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


exactly. Husks. Your theory is invalid.

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:( c'mon Bioware comment on this theory already :)

#1448
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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.


The "side-effect" research of Sanctuary amounted to a way to create "husk like creatures" and that process was obviusly not transportable in case you dident notice the massive tubes the colonists were placed in.

That is a pretty far cry from near perfect organic control.

The tubes aren't needed if the nanides are air-borne.


Give me an instance of airborne nanites in Mass Effect then, please? Even the dragon teeth require contact to convert someone.

Also a husk is mindless, both Shepard and Anderson retain their minds and you fail to realize that any airbone nanites if it indeed was would target TIM as well, essentially making it a suicide attack.

One log or pad said people in the disposal area had to wear some heavy hazmat suits. Meaning they are airborne.

#1449
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paxxton wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Sooooo, it's been quiet for around 13 minutes. Anyone have any great insights? Small insights? Random OT stuff that means absolutely nothing for IT but is fun to talk about? (That's what I usually do.)

I have a Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. Posted Image


Ah, the Unified Nanide-based Indoctrination Theory. We have dismissed these claims


Just kidding. They're imaginative but the Sanctuary mission debunks your hypothesis since Tim was working to control Reapers and Reaper troops, not organics.

Wrong. He turned organics into husks on Sanctuary and he learned how to control them.


Still dosent change that the purpose of Sanctuary was to "replicate the Reaper control signal."

Not indoctrination signal, not husk creation process (though that was required side effect, though as noted in a log these husks are not created the same way the Reaper husks are) but reaper control signal, specifically targeting the Reaper ground troops.

At no point had Sanctuary anything to do with controlling organics or the use of nanites beyond what was needed to create husks.

So you're suggesting that TIM would throw all the "side-effect" research away because the main purpose was to research the means to control Reaper troops? That way humanity would never have developed a non-stick frying pan (teflon) which was discovered by accident.


He says himself that his plan is to control the Reapers to save humanity and put them on top.

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Dwailing wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Hey, apparently Casey "Speculations" Hudson has tweeted that there is a new ME3 patch coming out and that they will be ready to discuss its content soon. Any thoughts?


Uh, the last tweet I see on @CaseyDHudson is from 17 March. Source?


I saw it retweeted on the Mass Effect website.

Edit: It might not have been from Casey, but I saw a retweet from somebody on their website about a Patch 3 for ME3.


Chris priestly posted this quite recently, it wasn't casey hudson