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[BleedingUranium]

dreamgazer wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arrival is canon. If you don't do it, your Shepard is non-canon.

Gotcha (and thanks, folks).

So, if the content's created by BioWare, even if it's optional, it's on the table for dissection and usage of examples and precedents.  

Therefore, if people haven't experienced the atrocities of Project Overlord and what it means thematically in terms of control and synthesis, then tough s-----t.

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

byne wrote...


Yeah, Skyrim's Sheogorath kinda pissed me off.

I dont know who that guy in the Sheogorath quest in Skyrim is, but it sure as hell isnt my character like it should be.

They should have simply used Haskill in Skyrim, like they did for the Sheogorath shrine quest in Oblivion if you did the main Shivering Isles quest line first.

Someone tried to justify it to me that the insanity of the Shivering Isles basically molds you into classic Sheogorath we see.

That would be all well and good if my character spent all his time in the Shivering Isles, but as the head of the Fighter's Guild, Mage's Guild, Thieves Guild, the Grand Champion of the Arena, Divine Crusader of the Knights of the Nine, Master of Battlehorn Keep, and Listener of the Dark Brotherhood, and probably a few other titles I'm forgetting, I have things I need to take care of in Cyrodiil.

[HellishFiend]

BleedingUranium wrote...

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

I feel the same way. Logically, it makes sense that all DLC should be considered part of Shepard's story, however I'm still relieved that we have specific word from Bioware that Arrival is canon. 

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

I feel the same way. Logically, it makes sense that all DLC should be considered part of Shepard's story, however I'm still relieved that we have specific word from Bioware that Arrival is canon. 

Agreed. It's a positive sign. I just wish they stuck to their guns and had Shep do Arival; even those who didn't download and play the DLC.

[Dendio1]

BleedingUranium wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arrival is canon. If you don't do it, your Shepard is non-canon.

Gotcha (and thanks, folks).

So, if the content's created by BioWare, even if it's optional, it's on the table for dissection and usage of examples and precedents.  

Therefore, if people haven't experienced the atrocities of Project Overlord and what it means thematically in terms of control and synthesis, then tough s-----t.

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

Im pretty sure all books and dlc is canon. Bioware has yet to put out any alternate reality dlc for the mass effect franchise.

[byne]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

I feel the same way. Logically, it makes sense that all DLC should be considered part of Shepard's story, however I'm still relieved that we have specific word from Bioware that Arrival is canon. 

Agreed. It's a positive sign. I just wish they stuck to their guns and had Shep do Arival; even those who didn't download and play the DLC.

The game doesnt even make sense if you didnt do Arrival.

>Steal the Normandy to save the galaxy in ME1
>Get off with no punishment

>Work with Cerberus to save the galaxy in ME2
>Six months in jail*

*Unless you're Dr Chakwas, in which case
>Cushy job in Huerta Memorial Hospital

Modifié par byne, 08 juin 2012 - 05:48 .

[BleedingUranium]

Dendio1 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arrival is canon. If you don't do it, your Shepard is non-canon.

Gotcha (and thanks, folks).

So, if the content's created by BioWare, even if it's optional, it's on the table for dissection and usage of examples and precedents.  

Therefore, if people haven't experienced the atrocities of Project Overlord and what it means thematically in terms of control and synthesis, then tough s-----t.

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

Im pretty sure all books and dlc is canon. Bioware has yet to put out any alternate reality dlc for the mass effect franchise.

Books and comics are canon. Full stop. DLC is generally accepted by fans as all canon, but can technically be dismissed by people who complain something like IT can't be true because their Shep didn't do DLC X.

Except for Arrival.

[Turbo_J]

Chakwas = Alliance R&D, but yeah...

I'm just going to leave this right here.

Heretics were altered by causing the results of very low level calculations to return slightly different results... to slowly change thought patters. For organics it's no different. Slow indoctrination. Think of TIM as that little virus that alters Sheps low level decision making processes throughout ME2.

Keeping the collector base at the end of ME2

Legion again: The Geth build their future. The Heretics ask the old machines to give them the future.

Keeping the collector base is using Reaper tech, just like the citadel and relays. This guides humanity down the path chosen by the Reapers.

Shepard, Commander asks the old machines to give them the future.

Only control is available.

Reaper future is what you shall have.

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

As far as most, regardless of IT, are concerned, yes. But Arrival is confirmed as canon by Bioware, so it's the only one they can't deny. Which is good, because, for IT, it's the most important.

I feel the same way. Logically, it makes sense that all DLC should be considered part of Shepard's story, however I'm still relieved that we have specific word from Bioware that Arrival is canon. 

Agreed. It's a positive sign. I just wish they stuck to their guns and had Shep do Arival; even those who didn't download and play the DLC.

Yes, that would have made the most sense. I dunno where that "The **** you done!" line from Anderson came from. 

[HellishFiend]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Books and comics are canon. Full stop. DLC is generally accepted by fans as all canon, but can technically be dismissed by people who complain something like IT can't be true because their Shep didn't do DLC X.

Except for Arrival.

That is an excellent, concise summary of the current situation. 

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

Chakwas = Alliance R&D, but yeah...

I'm just going to leave this right here.

Heretics were altered by causing the results of very low level calculations to return slightly different results... to slowly change thought patters. For organics it's no different. Slow indoctrination. Think of TIM as that little virus that alters Sheps low level decision making processes throughout ME2.

Keeping the collector base at the end of ME2

Legion again: The Geth build their future. The Heretics ask the old machines to give them the future.

Keeping the collector base is using Reaper tech, just like the citadel and relays. This guides humanity down the path chosen by the Reapers.

Shepard, Commander asks the old machines to give them the future.

Only control is available.

Reaper future is what you shall have.

I support this, also. 

Choosing to save the collector base has strong literal implications in addition to the symbolism. For both Shepard, and Humanity as a whole. 

Its just a shame that so far we only see that exemplified if you wind up with low EMS after saving the collector base, which is an extreme edge-case. 

[BleedingUranium]

HellishFiend wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

Books and comics are canon. Full stop. DLC is generally accepted by fans as all canon, but can technically be dismissed by people who complain something like IT can't be true because their Shep didn't do DLC X.

Except for Arrival.

That is an excellent, concise summary of the current situation. 

Thank you

[byne]

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

[Dendio1]

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

They have time to manipulate the default choices and release an overall improved experiance through the Wii U tech. I probably won't be buying a WII U but Nintendo is helping move the industry out of the current 6 year old console rut.

Modifié par Dendio1, 08 juin 2012 - 06:18 .

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

But default ME3 Shep is hilarious!

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

Yes! Even more people who will think the ending was okay because they've missed 2/3 of the whole thing!





Sorry.

[BleedingUranium]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

Yes! Even more people who will think the ending was okay because they've missed 2/3 of the whole thing!





Sorry.

That's almost as cool as the Biotic God gif

Modifié par BleedingUranium, 08 juin 2012 - 06:21 .

[Arian Dynas]

Dendio1 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

They have time to manipulate the default choices and release an overall improved experiance through the Wii U tech. I probably won't be buying a WII U but Nintendo is helping move the industry out of the current 6 year old console rut.

First I am amazed you read Cracked.

Second, I hadn't considered that, there is the possibility they may do something along the lines of Mass Effect: Genesis however. Or they may re-release Mass Effect entirely.

Though I do agree with Cheese. Having a screen on the big ass controller seems like a really stupid idea if you do everything in real time. The "minigames and different veiws" is a cool idea... if you do it right, kinda like the Kinect, some companies will use this well and to it's full effect. Others... won't.

[Arian Dynas]

lex0r11 wrote...

byne wrote...

Wait, what the hell? ME3 is coming out on the new Wii U console? I should have paid more attention to E3... Why do I learn all the important news from articles on Cracked?

Anyways...

I'm not exactly sure how I feel about ME3 being on a Nintendo console. Just seems odd.

Its also, just by being on the Wii U, gonna be the worst possible version of ME3, since Wii U wont have ME1 or ME2 for you to import choices from.

Seems like a really stupid idea.

Yes! Even more people who will think the ending was okay because they've missed 2/3 of the whole thing!





Sorry.

Yeeees but by then the EC will be out and we will be vindicated.

Whether you like it or not, canon is on our side. WE WILL BURY YOU!

[MegumiAzusa]

I've just frapsed the blue ending 4 times and went through the scenes in question step by step. It is not getting any more corporal, if it does it's a bug. But I could see that the refraction of the beam or whatever is quite strong at its then current position and could be mistaken as its ordinary skin. I made some screens that should clearly show that all we see is refraction, not its ordinary skin.
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B0.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B1.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B2.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B3.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B4.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B5.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B6.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B7.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B8.png
http://thundermods.n...lith/ME3/B9.png

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

First I am amazed you read Cracked.

Second, I hadn't considered that, there is the possibility they may do something along the lines of Mass Effect: Genesis however. Or they may re-release Mass Effect entirely.

Though I do agree with Cheese. Having a screen on the big ass controller seems like a really stupid idea if you do everything in real time. The "minigames and different veiws" is a cool idea... if you do it right, kinda like the Kinect, some companies will use this well and to it's full effect. Others... won't.

I'm still kinda torn on the Kinect. Sometimes it works great and sometimes it doesnt.

My xbox died recently so I got a new one, and figured I'd get one bundled with the Kinect.

The Kinect seems to like intepreting battle sounds as orders. Liara yelled something in battle, and the Kinect was all 'Whats that? You want to change from your Wraith to your Predator? No problem!' which was in no way helpful.

Also once it misinterpreted what I said when Liara asked if I was still interested in her at the beginning of ME3 and shot her down. I dont think the two options even sounded remotely similar either.

Rejecting Liara was the Kinect's final mistake. It no longer gets to be plugged in during ME3 gameplay.

[Arian Dynas]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

First I am amazed you read Cracked.

Second, I hadn't considered that, there is the possibility they may do something along the lines of Mass Effect: Genesis however. Or they may re-release Mass Effect entirely.

Though I do agree with Cheese. Having a screen on the big ass controller seems like a really stupid idea if you do everything in real time. The "minigames and different veiws" is a cool idea... if you do it right, kinda like the Kinect, some companies will use this well and to it's full effect. Others... won't.

I'm still kinda torn on the Kinect. Sometimes it works great and sometimes it doesnt.

My xbox died recently so I got a new one, and figured I'd get one bundled with the Kinect.

The Kinect seems to like intepreting battle sounds as orders. Liara yelled something in battle, and the Kinect was all 'Whats that? You want to change from your Wraith to your Predator? No problem!' which was in no way helpful.

Also once it misinterpreted what I said when Liara asked if I was still interested in her at the beginning of ME3 and shot her down. I dont think the two options even sounded remotely similar either.

Rejecting Liara was the Kinect's final mistake. It no longer gets to be plugged in during ME3 gameplay.

I never said Mass Effect was one that did. 

I was talking about the companies that made dancing games.

[lex0r11]

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

*feels he failed to help a fellow*



*punishes himself with a 5 mile run while listening to this on a loop*

youtu.be/q4pqgBw_exw

You're being harsh on yourself, but thanks for the sentiments. 

If he was really being harsh on himself, he'd listen to that Crazy Bus* song I talked about earlier.





*I take no responsibility for losses in hearing and/or sanity that may result from clicking on this link.

*takes on the additional punishment*

*goes completely mad*

*sits in this thread all day drinking whiskey while sifting through his motivationals and this playing in the background*

youtu.be/WKIx0CmAZM8

[MegumiAzusa]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

First I am amazed you read Cracked.

Second, I hadn't considered that, there is the possibility they may do something along the lines of Mass Effect: Genesis however. Or they may re-release Mass Effect entirely.

Though I do agree with Cheese. Having a screen on the big ass controller seems like a really stupid idea if you do everything in real time. The "minigames and different veiws" is a cool idea... if you do it right, kinda like the Kinect, some companies will use this well and to it's full effect. Others... won't.

I'm still kinda torn on the Kinect. Sometimes it works great and sometimes it doesnt.

My xbox died recently so I got a new one, and figured I'd get one bundled with the Kinect.

The Kinect seems to like intepreting battle sounds as orders. Liara yelled something in battle, and the Kinect was all 'Whats that? You want to change from your Wraith to your Predator? No problem!' which was in no way helpful.

Also once it misinterpreted what I said when Liara asked if I was still interested in her at the beginning of ME3 and shot her down. I dont think the two options even sounded remotely similar either.

Rejecting Liara was the Kinect's final mistake. It no longer gets to be plugged in during ME3 gameplay.

Voice recognition is done by patterns, do a scratching sound that has about the same pattern and it gets recognized.
But I seriously would consider a low EMS playthrough just to use the Kinect after gettin hit by Harby ^^

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

First I am amazed you read Cracked.

Second, I hadn't considered that, there is the possibility they may do something along the lines of Mass Effect: Genesis however. Or they may re-release Mass Effect entirely.

Though I do agree with Cheese. Having a screen on the big ass controller seems like a really stupid idea if you do everything in real time. The "minigames and different veiws" is a cool idea... if you do it right, kinda like the Kinect, some companies will use this well and to it's full effect. Others... won't.

I'm still kinda torn on the Kinect. Sometimes it works great and sometimes it doesnt.

My xbox died recently so I got a new one, and figured I'd get one bundled with the Kinect.

The Kinect seems to like intepreting battle sounds as orders. Liara yelled something in battle, and the Kinect was all 'Whats that? You want to change from your Wraith to your Predator? No problem!' which was in no way helpful.

Also once it misinterpreted what I said when Liara asked if I was still interested in her at the beginning of ME3 and shot her down. I dont think the two options even sounded remotely similar either.

Rejecting Liara was the Kinect's final mistake. It no longer gets to be plugged in during ME3 gameplay.

After watching 5 minutes of a video of ME3 with Kinect, I got very annoyed at the player saying all the stuff in the dialogue wheel. It made it both annoying and confusing, saying all that dialogue that isn't said like that