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Uh ... HMMM ....

http://www.gamesindu...through-success

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision. Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for finding and filtering balanced criticism."

Modifié par dreamgazer, 08 juin 2012 - 07:02 .


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Makrys wrote...

We've got a good little debate going on over here: http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/355/index/12477395/4



Bah, what's the use? They'll just calll us conspiracy theorists and cultists again, along with a lot of other insults.

Honestly, I'm getting sick and tired of it.

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Bah, I got home just a minute too late to post on page 600! I am disappoint.

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dreamgazer wrote...

Uh ... HMMM ....

http://www.gamesindu...through-success

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision. Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for finding and filtering balanced criticism."



Meh, I think the guy just got his facts wrong, nothing more.

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estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Uh ... HMMM ....

http://www.gamesindu...through-success

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision. Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for finding and filtering balanced criticism."



Meh, I think the guy just got his facts wrong, nothing more.


I still think it's interesting that the interview skewed in that direction.

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paxxton wrote...

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estebanus wrote...

I just found some suspicious tweets by Michael Gamble. Holy sh*t!

https://twitter.com/...890766980096002
Parrish Lee Brown is lead cinematic director for ME3.

https://twitter.com/...893678212939776
Hmmm... San Diego comic con...

...This...This is it, isn't it?
What do you guys think?


Crunch time for the lead cinematic director? Could mean something.

But why would they choose comic-con to reveal anything about the EC? Why would they reveal anything about the EC at all?

To be honest, back when EC was first announced, early-june (For some reason I was thinking June 6th) popped into my head as the likely release date for EC. That being said, I'm not expecting them to say a darn thing about it, ever, until fans have had a chance to play through it. A release date would be the most I'd expect, but I wont even get my hopes up for that.

They might show it if it's so twisted that nobody understands what they are looking at.

Maybe the counter on completed playthroughs showed enough high a number that they assumed most of humanity had played the game.


Hmm, that would be funny if they just showed some cryptic garbled message that we would have to decipher, we'd figure out what it means at FTL speeds though probably.

Like a message from Harbinger. That'd be powerful proof for IT and wouldn't disclose too much from the EC.


That would be awesome!
Imagine they present something in a dark room, the lights turn out and you hear Harbinger's voice saying "You are not done yet, Shepard" and then only Harbinger's eyes start to glow on a screen...

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estebanus wrote...

So... How many will be watching the footbal european championship? I am!

I might take a look but nothing serious. Posted Image I'm not really into soccer. I'm waiting for the Olympics.

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SirLugash wrote...

paxxton wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I just found some suspicious tweets by Michael Gamble. Holy sh*t!

https://twitter.com/...890766980096002
Parrish Lee Brown is lead cinematic director for ME3.

https://twitter.com/...893678212939776
Hmmm... San Diego comic con...

...This...This is it, isn't it?
What do you guys think?


Crunch time for the lead cinematic director? Could mean something.

But why would they choose comic-con to reveal anything about the EC? Why would they reveal anything about the EC at all?

To be honest, back when EC was first announced, early-june (For some reason I was thinking June 6th) popped into my head as the likely release date for EC. That being said, I'm not expecting them to say a darn thing about it, ever, until fans have had a chance to play through it. A release date would be the most I'd expect, but I wont even get my hopes up for that.

They might show it if it's so twisted that nobody understands what they are looking at.

Maybe the counter on completed playthroughs showed enough high a number that they assumed most of humanity had played the game.


Hmm, that would be funny if they just showed some cryptic garbled message that we would have to decipher, we'd figure out what it means at FTL speeds though probably.

Like a message from Harbinger. That'd be powerful proof for IT and wouldn't disclose too much from the EC.


That would be awesome!
Imagine they present something in a dark room, the lights turn out and you hear Harbinger's voice saying "You are not done yet, Shepard" and then only Harbinger's eyes start to glow on a screen...

Or this "You are vermin, Shepard! Your world has become our lavatory."

Modifié par paxxton, 08 juin 2012 - 07:16 .


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dreamgazer wrote...

estebanus wrote...

dreamgazer wrote...

Uh ... HMMM ....

http://www.gamesindu...through-success

"That's why the Dragon Age 3 team turned to the BioWare forums to ask what the fans wanted from the finished game. That's why you will soon be able to play free DLC that alters the ending of Mass Effect 3. And Kieken refutes the idea that either is evidence of BioWare simply pandering to the vocal minority and undermining its creative vision. Rather, he sees it is an indication of BioWare's greater respect for the relationship between games and their players, and its growing skill for finding and filtering balanced criticism."



Meh, I think the guy just got his facts wrong, nothing more.


I still think it's interesting that the interview skewed in that direction.



I've seen that happen in several other interviews where the guy who wrote it said that Bioware would change the ending with the EC.

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estebanus wrote...

I've seen that happen in several other interviews where the guy who wrote it said that Bioware would change the ending with the EC.


I have too.  

That just seemed like a more intimate, sharper interview (and interviewer) than that, but you're probably right.

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I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.

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DJBare wrote...

I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.


I don't know many people who would want THIS replica ... give me a mattock already! as far as what "they" are hinting at? is probably a means to waste even more money

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Sero303 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.


I don't know many people who would want THIS replica ... give me a mattock already! as far as what "they" are hinting at? is probably a means to waste even more money

It's a topic in this very thread, the carnifex morphs into a predator while shooting the destroy tube.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

So... How many will be watching the footbal european championship? I am!

I might take a look but nothing serious. Posted Image I'm not really into soccer. I'm waiting for the Olympics.


Me too!! I really hope that Italy doesn't s***s like we did at World Cup... :?

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mrs.N7 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

So... How many will be watching the footbal european championship? I am!

I might take a look but nothing serious. Posted Image I'm not really into soccer. I'm waiting for the Olympics.


Me too!! I really hope that Italy doesn't s***s like we did at World Cup... :?


Embarrasing stuff, that. Losing in the first round...

If it's any consolation, I rooted for Italy when they kicked Germany's ass back in 2006!

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DJBare wrote...

Sero303 wrote...

DJBare wrote...

I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.


I don't know many people who would want THIS replica ... give me a mattock already! as far as what "they" are hinting at? is probably a means to waste even more money

It's a topic in this very thread, the carnifex morphs into a predator while shooting the destroy tube.

It looks really cool on BioWare Store. But I can think of many better ways to spend $400.

Modifié par paxxton, 08 juin 2012 - 07:58 .


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Edit :Sorry to bring this topic up again but I've just caught up.

@ bigstig - :DWoo-hoo! Someone else who thinks a reaper civil war would be cool! You've put a lot more thought into it than me though. Especially regarding the inner life of a Reaper's constituent minds.

Edit: deleted my embarassing ramblings. Apologies.

Modifié par Eryri, 08 juin 2012 - 08:44 .


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Ok I'm going into Old Coot mode.

You've been warned.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Ok I'm going into Old Coot mode.

You've been warned.


Sorry. Didn't mean to interrupt the conversation.

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DJBare wrote...

I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.


Yknow, for costing $400, you'd think they could make a Predator that actually works as a pistol and isnt just a replica.

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Observe!

So I was replaying the Geth Ship mission because I needed a save just before the Rannoch mission.

As I walked through the ship I noticed certain items.

This is what caught my eye.

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So here's the whole object at a different angle:

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Now why is this important?

Because when you're on your way to the control panel, there's a similar object that you walk over, seen only through flycam of course.

Posted Image

Notice the similarities and differences.

Now here's the big part. While inspecting the breathe scene again I found this:

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That Shiney part looks very similar to part of the objects obove. It is hard to tell but it's the closest I can think of.

Here's another angle:

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What do you guys think?


EDIT: Duplicate pic fixed. Added an extra pic

Modifié par EpyonX3, 08 juin 2012 - 08:10 .


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byne wrote...

DJBare wrote...

I had to laugh, the latest replica on offer is a M-3 predator, you think they might be hinting.


Yknow, for costing $400, you'd think they could make a Predator that actually works as a pistol and isnt just a replica.

Or they could make a working Geth Plasma Rifle.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Observe!

So I was replaying the Geth Ship mission because I needed a save just before the Rannoch mission.

As I walked through the ship I noticed certain items.

This is what caught my eye.



So here's the whole object at a different angle:

Posted Image





Now why is this important?

Because when you're on your way to the control panel, there's a similar object that you walk over, seen only through flycam of course.



Notice the similarities and differences.

Now here's the big part. While inspecting the breathe scene again I found this:



That Shiney part looks very similar to part of the objects obove. It is hard to tell but it's the closest I can think of.

Here's another angle:



What do you guys think?


EDIT: Duplicate pic fixed. Added an extra pic

I can see you've found that rebar from the breath scene.

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Epyon, your pictures seem to indicate there is Geth tech on the Citadel, which makes pretty much no sense if you interpret it literally.

Unless you now believe the hallway leading up to the Citadel control panel is somehow on the Crucible too now?

As for the pictures in the breath scene, they look kind of similar, but really, everything in the breath scene is way too blurry to say either way.

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byne wrote...

Epyon, your pictures seem to indicate there is Geth tech on the Citadel, which makes pretty much no sense if you interpret it literally.

Unless you now believe the hallway leading up to the Citadel control panel is somehow on the Crucible too now?

As for the pictures in the breath scene, they look kind of similar, but really, everything in the breath scene is way too blurry to say either way.


I brought it up before but Geth stuff is also on the Crucible bit. If Epyons theory about you actually being on the Crucible is correct this is meaningless, and I suppose even if not it is object reuse, but still.