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Epyon, your pictures seem to indicate there is Geth tech on the Citadel, which makes pretty much no sense if you interpret it literally.

Unless you now believe the hallway leading up to the Citadel control panel is somehow on the Crucible too now?

As for the pictures in the breath scene, they look kind of similar, but really, everything in the breath scene is way too blurry to say either way.


Not at all. I believe that Geth Tech is first Quarian tech. Quarian Tech like almost every other tech in the galaxy is reverse engineered reaper tech. It owuld make sense that the Quarians got this design from the Citadel.

I figured as much about the breathe scene, but it's worth a shot.

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estebanus wrote...

I just found some suspicious tweets by Michael Gamble. Holy sh*t!

https://twitter.com/...890766980096002
Parrish Lee Brown is lead cinematic director for ME3.

https://twitter.com/...893678212939776
Hmmm... San Diego comic con...

...This...This is it, isn't it?
What do you guys think?


Crunch time for the lead cinematic director? Could mean something.

But why would they choose comic-con to reveal anything about the EC? Why would they reveal anything about the EC at all?

To be honest, back when EC was first announced, early-june (For some reason I was thinking June 6th) popped into my head as the likely release date for EC. That being said, I'm not expecting them to say a darn thing about it, ever, until fans have had a chance to play through it. A release date would be the most I'd expect, but I wont even get my hopes up for that.


Well...Maybe they're just going to reveal a new line of Dark Horse ME comics?

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@EpyonX3 That's probably the closest thing in the game to look like the mystery object in the breath scene, still not quite the same though mostly because of what looks like that big rectangle attached to the circular object:

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Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

You let TIM kill Anderson.

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paxxton wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

You let TIM kill Anderson.

No, I didn't I shot TIM with first renegade interrupt

Great time for nobody to be around...

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??


Help you understand? Help US understand, that's really interesting. Can you duplicate? And can you give as much detail about your playthrough as you can?

If true, very interesting and could actually scrap IT :P

EDIT -wait, 4000 or 7000 EMS? Which is it? If it was 4000 and you didn't (either it's kill TIM before he shoots Anderson or convince TIM to kill himself, can't remember) then you wouldn't get it, cos at that level you need 5000

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

You let TIM kill Anderson.

No, I didn't I shot TIM with first renegade interrupt

Great time for nobody to be around...

So you didn't convince him to commit suicide.

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

Are you certain it's EMS you are looking at?, 7000 seems pretty high, sounds more like a TMS figure.

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SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??


Help you understand? Help US understand, that's really interesting. Can you duplicate? And can you give as much detail about your playthrough as you can?

If true, very interesting and could actually scrap IT :P

Oh whoopoo, you just made me feel like someone with a new, unidentified disease who should be studied... Posted Image

As far as duplicating goes, I loaded the entire citadel mission again and replayed the entire scene, checking I hadn't accidentally pressed esc to skip the scene or something. same effect. after normandy crash site scene, goes straight to credits. If you wanna know about deets of my playthrough as specific question Posted Image

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DJBare wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

Are you certain it's EMS you are looking at?, 7000 seems pretty high, sounds more like a TMS figure.

Nope, 100% GR

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Here it is again.

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SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??


Help you understand? Help US understand, that's really interesting. Can you duplicate? And can you give as much detail about your playthrough as you can?

If true, very interesting and could actually scrap IT :P

EDIT -wait, 4000 or 7000 EMS? Which is it? If it was 4000 and you didn't (either it's kill TIM before he shoots Anderson or convince TIM to kill himself, can't remember) then you wouldn't get it, cos at that level you need 5000

He had 4000 EMS but 7000 TMS, I suppose.

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To clarify, when I said I had it at around 4000, thatb was when I started priority earth. I played MP ALOT between last part of the game and starting london. My EMS was over 7000 by the time I played through the citadel mission

[EDIT] realise first post made no sense, I definitely had much more than 4000 EMS at ending

Modifié par Lord Luc1fer, 08 juin 2012 - 08:53 .


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paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??


Help you understand? Help US understand, that's really interesting. Can you duplicate? And can you give as much detail about your playthrough as you can?

If true, very interesting and could actually scrap IT :P

EDIT -wait, 4000 or 7000 EMS? Which is it? If it was 4000 and you didn't (either it's kill TIM before he shoots Anderson or convince TIM to kill himself, can't remember) then you wouldn't get it, cos at that level you need 5000

He had 4000 EMS but 7000 TMS, I suppose.


Yeah, cos you can't gain any/much during priority Earth, so I don't see how his EMS could increase by 3000.

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

To clarify, when I said I had it at around 4000, thatb was when I started priority earth. I played MP ALOT between last part of the game and starting london. My EMS was over 7000 by the time I played through the citadel mission

[EDIT] realise first post made no sense, I definitely had much more than 4000 EMS at ending


Bugger, I forgot how complex this all gets. You say you're replaying an existing game; did you get the breath the first time?

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Observe!

So I was replaying the Geth Ship mission because I needed a save just before the Rannoch mission.

As I walked through the ship I noticed certain items.

This is what caught my eye.

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So here's the whole object at a different angle:







Now why is this important?

Because when you're on your way to the control panel, there's a similar object that you walk over, seen only through flycam of course.

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Notice the similarities and differences.

Now here's the big part. While inspecting the breathe scene again I found this:



That Shiney part looks very similar to part of the objects obove. It is hard to tell but it's the closest I can think of.

Here's another angle:



What do you guys think?


EDIT: Duplicate pic fixed. Added an extra pic


Those do look very similar, almost identical.  Not sure about the breath scene pics though. What is your hypothesis?

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

Are you certain it's EMS you are looking at?, 7000 seems pretty high, sounds more like a TMS figure.

Nope, 100% GR



It sounds like a bug/glitch to me...are you on PC or Console?  Whatever the case, you may want to head over to one of the tech support forums...

Edit:  Just looked at your other posts...I believe your EMS gets locked in at/or right after Cronos Station.  So, if you loaded a save from Earth that had EMS below 4000 to begin with you would not get the breath scene...if you have a save just before Cronos you should be able to go back and play from there and lock in the new EMS.

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SS2Dante wrote...

paxxton wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??


Help you understand? Help US understand, that's really interesting. Can you duplicate? And can you give as much detail about your playthrough as you can?

If true, very interesting and could actually scrap IT :P

EDIT -wait, 4000 or 7000 EMS? Which is it? If it was 4000 and you didn't (either it's kill TIM before he shoots Anderson or convince TIM to kill himself, can't remember) then you wouldn't get it, cos at that level you need 5000

He had 4000 EMS but 7000 TMS, I suppose.


Yeah, cos you can't gain any/much during priority Earth, so I don't see how his EMS could increase by 3000.




I'M STILL HERE!! Posted Image As I said, played a **** ton of multiplayer to get me EMS up befiore the ending, it didn't suddenly jump up from war assets! Also, I shot TIM, saving Anderson so I would have got the breath with 4000 EMS, You've gotta understand, after my first playthough of ME3, I learned all the major parameters I needed to fill to get the breath scene, I wanted that much. I'm absolutely certain I should have got the breath scene

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D.Sharrah wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

Are you certain it's EMS you are looking at?, 7000 seems pretty high, sounds more like a TMS figure.

Nope, 100% GR



It sounds like a bug/glitch to me...are you on PC or Console?  Whatever the case, you may want to head over to one of the tech support forums...


PC. That may be a good plan, but getting the right question answered never seems to be easy with these things even if you go to the right place. I looked at some forums posts already.

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SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

To clarify, when I said I had it at around 4000, thatb was when I started priority earth. I played MP ALOT between last part of the game and starting london. My EMS was over 7000 by the time I played through the citadel mission

[EDIT] realise first post made no sense, I definitely had much more than 4000 EMS at ending


Bugger, I forgot how complex this all gets. You say you're replaying an existing game; did you get the breath the first time?


The mechanic of 4000 EMS + Saving Anderson or 5000 EMS = breath scene is fact. It's in the official guide. If you didnt get it, that means your EMS did not meet the requirements at the moment you started the assault on Cronos station. My understanding is that you can not further alter your EMS figure that is used for the ending after that point. 

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i thought you needed to have your ems locked in before chronos station? that any increase wouldnt count towards your ending after that point. i may be wrong though.

edit: ninja'd :D

Modifié par senshi420, 08 juin 2012 - 08:59 .


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This sounds weird. How can you have 7000TMS, 4000EMS, and 100%GR at the same time? Lol.

Edit: are you absolutely sure your GR was at 100% BEFORE Cronus station?

Modifié par Unschuld, 08 juin 2012 - 09:01 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

SS2Dante wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

To clarify, when I said I had it at around 4000, thatb was when I started priority earth. I played MP ALOT between last part of the game and starting london. My EMS was over 7000 by the time I played through the citadel mission

[EDIT] realise first post made no sense, I definitely had much more than 4000 EMS at ending


Bugger, I forgot how complex this all gets. You say you're replaying an existing game; did you get the breath the first time?


The mechanic of 4000 EMS + Saving Anderson or 5000 EMS = breath scene is fact. It's in the official guide. If you didnt get it, that means your EMS did not meet the requirements at the moment you started the assault on Cronos station. My understanding is that you can not further alter your EMS figure that is used for the ending after that point. 


OK, you're saying if my EMS wasn't up to 4000 before assaulting the illusive man, any amount of multiplayer between then adn the ending wouldn't affect my EMS with respect to the ending? I can half see that, but going to the war room after cronos and some multiplayer deinitely showed me with EMS >4000

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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Hi guys, can you just help me understand something. I just played throught the last part of priority: earth for the first time with over 4000 EMS. I had something in the region of 7000 and I chose destroy, and I didn't get the breath scene! What the hell is up?? I pretty much played that completionist playthrough because after my first compeltion of mass effect 3 I got no shep alive scene and now it hasn't played anyway! I'm frankly distraught, what's going on??

Are you certain it's EMS you are looking at?, 7000 seems pretty high, sounds more like a TMS figure.

Nope, 100% GR



It sounds like a bug/glitch to me...are you on PC or Console?  Whatever the case, you may want to head over to one of the tech support forums...


PC. That may be a good plan, but getting the right question answered never seems to be easy with these things even if you go to the right place. I looked at some forums posts already.


Check the edit the to post just above the post I am quoting...that may be your answer.