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[Arian Dynas]

Unschuld wrote...

Unrelated question: on Sur'Kesh your squaddies comment on how fast Cerberus arrived must make it an inside job. Do we ever find out who the mole was, or get a direct/indirect explanation?

*conspiracy Keanu*

What if YOU are the inside man? Just because Cerberus doesn't have you mind controlled doesn't necessarily mean they don't have you chipped, to "Keep track of their investment"

[HellishFiend]

senshi420 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Thanks! Good to know I have at least one real supporter on BSN. Despite bumping the UNIT thread recently nobody showed up to post.

The names can be used interchangeably. Metaconvergence Theory emphasizes the unification UNIT is supposed to bring about. I explain that in more detail in the updated OP to the UNIT thread.

im one of those voltarian "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" kinda weirdo.

and support or not in theory, i suspect your at the very least liked around here man. and you attempt to add where you can. and you dont break the #1 rule : Don't be a dick.

I had to convert over from assailing his right to say it to apologizing and defending his right to say it (while still disagreeing), because at the time he proposed it, I didnt even know what a nanide was, let alone the way it was used in Retribution. After reading Retribution, his theory has foundation, regardless of whether one agrees or not...

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Unrelated question: on Sur'Kesh your squaddies comment on how fast Cerberus arrived must make it an inside job. Do we ever find out who the mole was, or get a direct/indirect explanation?

*conspiracy Keanu*

What if YOU are the inside man? Just because Cerberus doesn't have you mind controlled doesn't necessarily mean they don't have you chipped, to "Keep track of their investment"

So... The illusive virmire survivor was right after all....   /shepard

[Arian Dynas]

TSA_383 wrote...

Wow, every day I go to work, come back and there's another 30 pages...
Been too busy playing with overclocking and playing some multiplayer
http://i.imgur.com/n0JYH.png

Anyway, anything interesting happen over the past 30 pages? I'd like to check the whole infrasound thing in London and the ending sequence, that's be an interesting one. Unfortunately, whilst I have the bassiest headphones in the whole world I'm not a whale and thus sadly can't hear infrasonic. If anyone has some remotely decent speakers hooked up to their PC/console I can show you how to set up a low-pass filter in software...

Well the most interesting development of the last 24 hours in my opinion, that song that plays over the Outro and the Credits? Das Malefitz? According to some of our German speakers can be translated as "Renegade Action." Considering The Faunts (An Edmonton based band) wrote it specifically for ME3...

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

That's not fair I can put only 4 lines of text in my post signature.

Still more decisions than Mass Effect 3's ending.

[Arian Dynas]

Dendio1 wrote...

Im starting to see indoctrination as nothing more than really good fanon.

-The final hours app says they wanted shepards emotions to be shown in me3. That explains the dream sequences.

-Star kid is supposed to represent those shepard could not save according to final hours.

-The TIM eye's = indoctrination is proved false by benezia and edi and the indoctrination codex never mentions eyes anyway.

Now we show that the gun swap is something present in other parts of the game...its a bug nothing more.

Slowly every piece of evidence is being debunked...what do we have left?

- Casey stated he wanted the PLAYER to feel Shepard's emotions, not for them to be shown, there is a HUGE difference. That was also stated in a January interveiw, not the Final Hours App. Feeling Shepard's emotions includes his confusion, stress, fear and apprehension

- Even from the beginning the kid is shown to be symbolic. But why is he a symbol? He is specifically picked to BE symbolic, but if there is no reason why then there is not purpose to him.

- Benezia is not human for one. Asari eyes turn black. For two, the eyes are EXPLICITLY STATED to have come from a Reaper Artifact. The concept WITH the eyes in fact was a more recent development accordng to the team, originally the eyes had nothing to do with Indoctrination, but later, when filling in the backstory for TIM, they decided that he should get them from a Reaper artifact, and then eventually they decided they were symbolic of indoctrination, and a simpler way of thinking of it; Not everyone who is indoctrinated has those eyes, but anyone who has those eyes (which are exclusively associated with Reapers) is indoctrinated. And more to the point, if those eyes MEAN nothing then why the hell would they change ANYWAY?

- Wrong. There is a difference between the computer conflating two assets as with Wrex, and the gradual morph that the Carnifex has. MORE TO THE POINT, we have seen the file PROGRAMMED IN to the game that specifically tells the gun to switch, there is no physical way in which it could be unintentional.

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Eryri wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Ok I'm going into Old Coot mode.

You've been warned.

Sorry. Didn't mean to interrupt the conversation.

Feel free you are just as welcome to post here as he is, continue to do so and take part. You are a good theorist and welcome here.

You may want to PM that to him since it was a while back, and I agree BTW. 

[Lord Luc1fer]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Unschuld wrote...

Unrelated question: on Sur'Kesh your squaddies comment on how fast Cerberus arrived must make it an inside job. Do we ever find out who the mole was, or get a direct/indirect explanation?

*conspiracy Keanu*

What if YOU are the inside man? Just because Cerberus doesn't have you mind controlled doesn't necessarily mean they don't have you chipped, to "Keep track of their investment"

That would explain how they always manage to turn up at the wrong time for shepard

[HellishFiend]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That's not fair I can put only 4 lines of text in my post signature.

Still more decisions than Mass Effect 3's ending.

There's a new one for the complainers. 

"I can have more lines in my forum sig than I can have diversity in my ME3 endings!"

[senshi420]

a good theory NEEDS its detractors to engage in debate with its adherents to refine the knowledge contained within it, EpyonX3 is one of those people imo, and for the most part, seems to do it in a rational way that encourages discourse.
In a big way, people like you make the theory better, because you challenge it.
there are some that come in here and just spew "bad writing!" as an auto dialog choice. so its always been good to see your name, because typically i knew that you'd either make a good counter point, or give a non IT pov on something.

[Lord Luc1fer]

Is it established in the ME universe whether VIs/AIs have a predesignated appreance which they stick with? If so, are we meant to believe starchild was created before the reapers at a time where there were kids wearing hoodies?

[estebanus]

senshi420 wrote...

a good theory NEEDS its detractors to engage in debate with its adherents to refine the knowledge contained within it, EpyonX3 is one of those people imo, and for the most part, seems to do it in a rational way that encourages discourse.
In a big way, people like you make the theory better, because you challenge it.
there are some that come in here and just spew "bad writing!" as an auto dialog choice. so its always been good to see your name, because typically i knew that you'd either make a good counter point, or give a non IT pov on something.

Yup, Epyon is awesome. He is one of the few literalists I know of that you can actually debate with in a friendly manner!

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

senshi420 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Thanks! Good to know I have at least one real supporter on BSN. Despite bumping the UNIT thread recently nobody showed up to post.

The names can be used interchangeably. Metaconvergence Theory emphasizes the unification UNIT is supposed to bring about. I explain that in more detail in the updated OP to the UNIT thread.

im one of those voltarian "I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" kinda weirdo.

and support or not in theory, i suspect your at the very least liked around here man. and you attempt to add where you can. and you dont break the #1 rule : Don't be a dick.

I had to convert over from assailing his right to say it to apologizing and defending his right to say it (while still disagreeing), because at the time he proposed it, I didnt even know what a nanide was, let alone the way it was used in Retribution. After reading Retribution, his theory has foundation, regardless of whether one agrees or not...

So many kind words. Seems my theory could be finally gaining traction.
 
So that new age mental force works afterall.  jk

Modifié par paxxton, 08 juin 2012 - 11:22 .

[Arian Dynas]

estebanus wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

estebanus wrote...

byne wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Also, here's my Guild Wars 2 character!
*snip*
Look at the pretty kitty! Isn't he cute?

Its... like a khajiit/tauren/worgen hybrid.

Commonly referred to as "Charr".

And be careful, he bites!

My personal favorite creation for my book shall always remain my Werewolf/Vampire/Chinese/Jewish/Russian/Venician/Fremen

Uhhh...Okay...

They're called the Shirr (still thinking up a better name) a race of basically oriental culture mercantile nations, they tend to have eyes that are entirely featureless and glow either blue or white, no hair, catfish like whiskers for men and sometimes similiar whiskers on their head for both genders,.

They're a species of vampires who refuse to drink blood for practical reasons (if they do their bodies rapidly mutate and they go feral, which are either used as shock troops in the army or merely put down, they are also hooded from that point on, to hide their shame from their people.) they're more known for being predatory moneylenders than predatory monsters.

Their society is ruled strongly by social taboo (unable to enter a house unless invited, unable to consume certain foods, unable to cross a running stream without tossing in a coin, avoid physical combat, never use an edged weapon, ect.) they refuse to touch or trade in either garlic (which makes them ill) or silver (due to social taboo) they mantain control on a strong spice monopoly which has made them powerful and wealthy, and their society is heavily focused on personal and family honor.

(Oh by the way, as an afterthought Copyright [my real name here] 2012)

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 08 juin 2012 - 11:07 .

[HellishFiend]

senshi420 wrote...

a good theory NEEDS its detractors to engage in debate with its adherents to refine the knowledge contained within it, EpyonX3 is one of those people imo, and for the most part, seems to do it in a rational way that encourages discourse.
In a big way, people like you make the theory better, because you challenge it.
there are some that come in here and just spew "bad writing!" as an auto dialog choice. so its always been good to see your name, because typically i knew that you'd either make a good counter point, or give a non IT pov on something.

I agree. I have no problem having discussion with Epyon or any individual that posts in this thread (heck, I gave Lord Goose, waldstr, and SubAstris a fair shake), unless they refuse to at least acknowledge reason. 

Some people think "I see what you're saying, but I disagree/believe otherwise" is akin to saying "You're right. I'm wrong. I lose."  Which is way off. Falsely accusing someone of irrationality is worthy of needing to apologize, which I did for paxxton. Many Anti-ITists will simply continue to attack us even if we give them a fair chance to understand our reasonings. 

[TJBartlemus]

HellishFiend wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Also, anyone else think the stargazer looks alot like anderson in alliance brass uniform?

Not sure if it's been suggested, but some have suggested the kid is a shrunken Shepard, so Stargazer being Anderson would make sense. 

Has anyone actually compared TIM's voice and the stargazer's voice? To me the stargazer sounds like an older version of the Illusive man, and of course the little kid sounds like the kid on earth. Hmmm.... Is there something there we are not seeing?

Maybe the entire game trilogy was a story by the Illusive Man in his later years to his grandson? Like what J.R. Tolkien did to his son. It could make sense.

Edit: Except with JR it was all made up.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 08 juin 2012 - 11:07 .

[Arian Dynas]

Also, Byne, JUST for you I chose to divy up my wall of text so that it's all nice and easy for you guys to respond to.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

That's not fair I can put only 4 lines of text in my post signature.

Still more decisions than Mass Effect 3's ending.

There's a new one for the complainers. 

"I can have more lines in my forum sig than I can have diversity in my ME3 endings!"

We should patent that one before they spot it.

[liggy002]

Hello fellow ITers, this is something that has dawned on me. It is a discovery I made that possibly points to the IT.  See the link below.




 


http://social.biowar.../index/12487168

Modifié par liggy002, 08 juin 2012 - 11:08 .

[HellishFiend]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Also, anyone else think the stargazer looks alot like anderson in alliance brass uniform?

Not sure if it's been suggested, but some have suggested the kid is a shrunken Shepard, so Stargazer being Anderson would make sense. 

Has anyone actually compared TIM's voice and the stargazer's voice? To me the stargazer sounds like an older version of the Illusive man, and of course the little kid sounds like the kid on earth. Hmmm.... Is there something there we are not seeing?

Maybe the entire game trilogy was a story by the Illusive Man in his later years to his grandson? Like what J.R. Tolkien did to his son. It could make sense.

Edit: Except with JR it was all made up.

I'm assuming you know Stargazer is voiced by Buzz Aldrin, right? So any theoriez (wow, the z there was accidental, but it works, so I'll leave it) regarding his voice would have that to contend with. 

[estebanus]

liggy002 wrote...

Hello fellow ITers, this is something that has dawned on me. It is a discovery I made that possibly points to the IT.  See the link below.




 


http://social.biowar.../index/12487168

Too.Many.Straws.

I'm sorry man, but sometimes there are things called "over-analysis." That is one of those cases.

[Lord Luc1fer]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

Also, anyone else think the stargazer looks alot like anderson in alliance brass uniform?

Not sure if it's been suggested, but some have suggested the kid is a shrunken Shepard, so Stargazer being Anderson would make sense. 

Has anyone actually compared TIM's voice and the stargazer's voice? To me the stargazer sounds like an older version of the Illusive man, and of course the little kid sounds like the kid on earth. Hmmm.... Is there something there we are not seeing?

Maybe the entire game trilogy was a story by the Illusive Man in his later years to his grandson? Like what J.R. Tolkien did to his son. It could make sense.

Edit: Except with JR it was all made up.

Stargazer is voiced by buzz aldrin. no real life connection to martin sheen who voices TIM if that's what you mean.

[Arian Dynas]

liggy002 wrote...

Hello fellow ITers, this is something that has dawned on me. It is a discovery I made that possibly points to the IT.  See the link below.




 


http://social.biowar.../index/12487168

Read it and, that's a biiiit of a stretch.... *sucks his teeth* yeahhh....

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Also, Byne, JUST for you I chose to divy up my wall of text so that it's all nice and easy for you guys to respond to.

<3

[Andromidius]

You won't get much love with those ideas outside of this thread. Trolls are a-prowling.

Interesting idea though. A little too vague though. Even if there's loads of similarities between Omega and the Citadel.