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[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

I did, it was leaked on Facebook, via Reddit, it was a leak of multiplayer stuff someone had gotten from accidentally getting on a developer server, he posted a picture with text detailing this, the next day someone took the same picture, never bothered to remove the text from it, and posted it on 4chan, which by the way, the text posted actually contradicted the text in the picture itself so yeah, if this is the same guy responsible for the 4chan leak of "The Truth" he is not a reliable source, if he is the guy responsible for the leak of the Multiplayer info, he MIGHT be a reliable source, but the odds on that are pretty long.

Well he is the same guy responsible for the Rebellion leak, which was 100% accurate. But if we consider that this "tester" or whoever he is, is getting his information fed to him and then passing it on, then he could be getting fed misinformation regarding the EC along with his legitimate information about the MP content. 

Well considering he said exactly jack **** that we couldn't look up ourselves on the Bioware Blog, yeah.

[Arian Dynas]

Starbuck8 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Well I can't remember what Javik says or calls it, but I don't think he said it was genetic memory exactly. Maybe I should find a YT vid.

Well Rifneno and I bashed it out after a long discussion and some research, eventually deciding that Javik's supposed homeopathic abilities are likely derived from several abilities, ranging from a doglike scent ability, potentially eyes that are capable of seeing in electromagnetic, ultraviolet and infrared spectra, and an subconcious deductive brain lobe, which processes this information for him, giving him a generalized feeling based off scent, minute detail and other things.

Basically he's Sherlock Holmes/Monk, only his brain does it unconciously.

Aha, well it makes sense, kinda like a sentient lie detector. But he also says they can trasnfer memories and skills between people and technology. I linked a YT vid above.

Unfortunately it was the most non bull**** answer I could come up with, so Idk.

[Starbuck8]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

This guy's first leak was spot on, and now he just leaked more information on MP-DLC as well as the extended cut.

http://www.reddit.co..._to_believe_me/

Afraid to look. Dont like spoilers...

Essentially, an established "informant" with some measure of actual credibility has informed us that the EC is "done"....

Hey there's always the possibility they were fed false/misleading information, I mean it is just a restatement of what's already been said. Okay I don't know what he leaked previously, but maybe this person was used only for MP beta testing and the MP testers were all given this statement about the EC. And if it is done, why haven't they at least announced a realse date, they must like torturing us

This reminds me of the "The Truth" leak, where supposedly an extended ending (that was before EC was announced) was to be featured. When asked about it bioware said "Do you really think we would call a dlc "The Truth"?
(And tbh it is a ****ty name)

So no, the first guys leak was *not* spot on.

He also said there would be MP dlc that would have new characters. Well, everybody could have guessed that, so no surprise there.

In short, I am not impressed.

Well looking at this person's first post, they leaked the Rebellion DLC. This time he leaks a new MP DLC. Clearly seems to be someone used for beta testing MP, and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC. His comment that it's done almost seems like speculation/guess/interpretation. So yeah that's my take on it. I think I would be mad if anything got leaked about the EC before release.

What's interesting is his new MP leak kinda fits with someone's theory on the marketing strategy regarding the post-release DLC, I think Arian's?

Yes it was my theory, but the thing that makes me dubious is the fact that if this guy IS a beta tester, they would have fired him and gotten someone else after the FIRST time he leaked something, unless they want us to know about this, and really, the only thing we DO know is there is now some more maps for Earth.

You have a point. But his first leak supposedly was discredited/dismissed by everyone who saw it, so may not have reached BW that there was a leak? If they did know, they may not be able to know WHO leaked it, but what I was going to say is at this point they should fire all of their beta testers, and if they knew about it before should have done it after the first leak. I don't like leaks. Lol.

If he's not a beta tester, well he did say he got it from some database. They need to upgrade their security or stop putting info in databases that can be accessed/hacked/whatever. I dunno, something seems fishy about all this.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

[Arian Dynas]

pirate1802 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

Your friend is a douche and you should find a envelope big enough to send him a bunch by mail.

[HellishFiend]

pirate1802 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

Just remember, the EC is set in stone. No one's beliefs or wishes will change what it is now. Take comfort in the fact that, well, there aint a darn thing you can do about it! Just continue to enjoy the remaining period of speculation that we have left. :happy:

[Starbuck8]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

Well I can't remember what Javik says or calls it, but I don't think he said it was genetic memory exactly. Maybe I should find a YT vid.

Well Rifneno and I bashed it out after a long discussion and some research, eventually deciding that Javik's supposed homeopathic abilities are likely derived from several abilities, ranging from a doglike scent ability, potentially eyes that are capable of seeing in electromagnetic, ultraviolet and infrared spectra, and an subconcious deductive brain lobe, which processes this information for him, giving him a generalized feeling based off scent, minute detail and other things.

Basically he's Sherlock Holmes/Monk, only his brain does it unconciously.

Aha, well it makes sense, kinda like a sentient lie detector. But he also says they can trasnfer memories and skills between people and technology. I linked a YT vid above.

Unfortunately it was the most non bull**** answer I could come up with, so Idk.

Haha well your analysis helps make me realize Javik's ability is somewhat founded in real life, rather than being sci-fi fantasy like it seemed to me when I first saw it.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

pirate1802 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

(to your friends comment) Oh c'mon now ME3 has more story and plot than all of the CoD's combined, or at least the recent ones. And it's more than cover and shoot combat, the power use and combos are quite fun.

It's my opinion that Bioware didn't let any of their fans down with ME3, but judging by everyone's enjoyment up until that point they could have better handled the ending of the game as we saw it.

[Arian Dynas]

Compared them and yeah. Pretty much verbatim from the Bioware blog really.

[Corik]

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

[HellishFiend]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

(to your friends comment) Oh c'mon now ME3 has more story and plot than all of the CoD's combined, or at least the recent ones. And it's more than cover and shoot combat, the power use and combos are quite fun.

It's my opinion that Bioware didn't let any of their fans down with ME3, but judging by everyone's enjoyment up until that point they could have better handled the ending of the game as we saw it.

To be fair, there are people who wanted ME to stay an RPG with shooter elements, and it only existed in that form for the first game, and became more mainstream TPS shooter with each sequel. Those people still feel let down. 

I know that's besides your point, but still, some people do feel let down. 

[Arian Dynas]

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

pirate1802 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

(to your friends comment) Oh c'mon now ME3 has more story and plot than all of the CoD's combined, or at least the recent ones. And it's more than cover and shoot combat, the power use and combos are quite fun.

It's my opinion that Bioware didn't let any of their fans down with ME3, but judging by everyone's enjoyment up until that point they could have better handled the ending of the game as we saw it.

People like being angry and ****ing and moaning, they think it makes them look smart and individualistic.

[HellishFiend]

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

Better than ME2 is highly debatable, actually. 

Aside from that, we're on the same page for sure. 

[Starbuck8]

pirate1802 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

..and his "insider" info on the EC is basically exactly what is stated on BioWare's FAQ regarding the EC.

My heart sank reading this Just today I was having a conversation with an irritating friend (more like an argument), who thought it was fit to sermonize that Bioware totally destroyed the franchise and turned ME3 into a shooter to please the "CoD crowd". And if I happen to love the game I must belong to the same lowlife group. I was thinking: let the EC come out then I'd talk to you.. Please Bioware, do not let your fans down

Haha I know how you feel. I was disheartened the first time I read that FAQ on the website, before I had learned more about what has happened and has been said or hinted at and has been discovered since the game's release and announcement of the EC, and seeing it "leaked" again reminds me of that feeling. I guess we're all afraid of being let down again, but we still have hope, more than we realize

Modifié par Starbuck8, 09 juin 2012 - 08:21 .

[Arian Dynas]

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

The ending, as it stands is enough to drop a 10 to an 8. With IT, an 8 becomes an 11.

[HellishFiend]

Starbuck8 wrote...

Haha I know how you feel. I was disheartened the first time I read that FAQ on the website, before I had learned more about what has happened and has been said or
hinted at and has been discovered since the game's release and announcement of the EC, and seeing it "leaked" again reminds me of that feeling. I guess we're all afraid of being let down again, but we still have hope, more than we realize

I've always said that based on what we believe IT to truly mean, Bioware's vague statements and actions play along with it perfectly. I'm thrilled that they are being vague and choosing their words so carefully that they could fit into either context. 

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

The ending, as it stands is enough to drop a 10 to an 8. With IT, an 8 becomes an 11 over 9000.

Fixed it for ya. Yeah, its just my opinion, but there it is. 

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

(to your friends comment) Oh c'mon now ME3 has more story and plot than all of the CoD's combined, or at least the recent ones. And it's more than cover and shoot combat, the power use and combos are quite fun.

It's my opinion that Bioware didn't let any of their fans down with ME3, but judging by everyone's enjoyment up until that point they could have better handled the ending of the game as we saw it.

To be fair, there are people who wanted ME to stay an RPG with shooter elements, and it only existed in that form for the first game, and became more mainstream TPS shooter with each sequel. Those people still feel let down. 

I know that's besides your point, but still, some people do feel let down. 

Meh. **** em. Mass Effect is STILL a RPG with shooter elements, morever, I have seen dozens of RPGs, and I have seen dozens of shooters, but I have never seen anything before or since ME that was truly worthy of the moniker of TPRPSG Third-Person-Role-Playing-Shooter-Game. ME2 was one of and remains one of my favorite games of all time, and was my favorite Mass Effect until ME3 came along, ending and all. So to those who **** and moan about it, I say **** em.

[Arian Dynas]

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

The ending, as it stands is enough to drop a 10 to an 8. With IT, an 8 becomes an 11 over 9000.

Fixed it for ya. Yeah, its just my opinion, but there it is. 

Over 9000 would require hookers to blow you while you play it, a bottle of 40 year old scotch and for them to pay YOU 60 dollars for taking it out the store, I highly doubt that would be the case.

[DirtyPhoenix]

Well I told him I play as a Vanguard, don't use guns. So his arguments on ME3 being a shooter is null and void.

[gunslinger_ruiz]

HellishFiend wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

(to your friends comment) Oh c'mon now ME3 has more story and plot than all of the CoD's combined, or at least the recent ones. And it's more than cover and shoot combat, the power use and combos are quite fun.

It's my opinion that Bioware didn't let any of their fans down with ME3, but judging by everyone's enjoyment up until that point they could have better handled the ending of the game as we saw it.

To be fair, there are people who wanted ME to stay an RPG with shooter elements, and it only existed in that form for the first game, and became more mainstream TPS shooter with each sequel. Those people still feel let down. 

I know that's besides your point, but still, some people do feel let down. 

I absolutely loved the first game for it's story but the combat was just moderate compared to most games with combat. Second game the story might not have been as strong, but was still great and the combat had evolved and I loved that. ME3 combat, for me anyway, really driven the game past "amazing" I mean not only was the story and dialogue great but now the combat was even funner than the previous two games. I guess for me the combat was mostly icing on a cake I already enjoyed but I suppose I can see why/how some people don't want any more icing.

[Corik]

Yeah, you may be right. Still, in my second playthrough I find it easier to reject their reality and substitute my own.

[Starbuck8]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

The ending, as it stands is enough to drop a 10 to an 8. With IT, an 8 becomes an 11 over 9000.

Fixed it for ya. Yeah, its just my opinion, but there it is. 

Over 9000 would require hookers to blow you while you play it, a bottle of 40 year old scotch and for them to pay YOU 60 dollars for taking it out the store, I highly doubt that would be the case.

Hey, they have never denied that this is what's going to happen with the EC.

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Over 9000 would require hookers to blow you while you play it, a bottle of 40 year old scotch and for them to pay YOU 60 dollars for taking it out the store, I highly doubt that would be the case.

Maybe you're right, but.. hey! Hookers? I happen to be very loyal, thank you very much. 

Since I dont need that aspect, does that give me +1000 towards my over 9000 requirement?

Modifié par HellishFiend, 09 juin 2012 - 08:30 .

[gunslinger_ruiz]

Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Corik wrote...

We seem to forget that Mass Effect 3 is an AWESOME game. It's way better than ME1 and ME2. The end is the problem. Don't let that change our feelings about the rest of the game. If IT is true, or if Bioware makes EC worthy with another ending, cool. If they don't... never forget that 99% of the game was AWESOME.

The ending, as it stands is enough to drop a 10 to an 8. With IT, an 8 becomes an 11 over 9000.

Fixed it for ya. Yeah, its just my opinion, but there it is. 

Over 9000 would require hookers to blow you while you play it, a bottle of 40 year old scotch and for them to pay YOU 60 dollars for taking it out the store, I highly doubt that would be the case.

Well there is the possibiilty the rest of ME3 with EC and DLC with be comparative to said activities, never know . I guess we'll know for sure if someone hops on the forums after playing it all and says "Hot damn that was better than having hookers blow you while you play with a bottle of 40 year old scotch AND getting paid for it all!"

Modifié par gunslinger_ruiz, 09 juin 2012 - 08:32 .