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Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

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ivenoidea wrote...

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Just finished my second playthrough. Feels much better to shoot the tubes now than the first time. Most notable thing to talk about... the whispers during Anderson-Shepard-TIM conversation. Just the same whispers as in the dreams. Also, the oily bushes after getting hit by Harby are weird. Don't look normal. Don't even look "real" bushes, more like illusions... can't explain :P


I can't think of anywhere else in the game where I have seen those bushes, besides they are two dimensional, black and oily like, they blow and stretch with the wind, and finally they look just like the crap hanging from the cieling in the hallway Shep beams up to.  What kind of bush do you know of that stretches as it blows?


For once i honestly think this might be grasping onto emergency induction ports, 2 dimensional grass is standard and cann be seen during the game. It's just black in the end.


I have been looking and I cannot find that bush anywhere else in the game, if it is in the game at a different point would you mind telling me where or provide a screenshot?  Of all the foliage in the game, 3D that is, they could have used it instead, but they used this in that scene.

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

Cool. when do they play the Dallas Cowboys? :happy:
  that was a joke.

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Overload_C14 wrote...

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And another 4th wall fell:

Posted Image

www.youtube.com/watch

What do you mean?

EDIT: This. http://dictionary.re...wse/fourth wall

the kid is looking at the player, not at Shep, Its creeping me out a little o.0


Turbo_J wrote...

I found it foreshadowing not to trust the boy... and if you did, you burn.

"I
never trusted the emotion Shep showed regarding him, or specifically a
single life. (S)he (or at least my Shep) would not dishonor the dead by
reducing them down to a single representative... and if that were to
happen even on a subconscious level, it would be the Virmire loss and
possibly anyone who died in ME2.

From a players perspective and
my experience with ME I found it out of character and knew bad things
were going to happen very quickly. That scene put me on edge for the
rest of the game and I think that wariness saved the galaxy."


The Reapers had to find a way to trick Shepard subtly and had to have an icon to do that. Hence the child. A child is innocent in human eyes, and you certainly would trust a child more than an adult.

Here is a good quote to explain: "A
terrorist doesn’t let strangers into her flat because they might be
undercover police or intelligence agents, but her children bring their
mates home and they run all over the place.
The terrorist doesn’t know that one of
these kids has bugged every room in her house, made copies of all her
computer files and stolen her address book."


Also the dreams are there warning you about the indoctrination. Otherwise I would feel that Shepard was a pedifile. :( And no one wants that.

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

I suppose people are dancing on the streets (besides other activities) in Denmark.

Modifié par paxxton, 09 juin 2012 - 06:08 .


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[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...

[quote]Turbo_J wrote...

[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...

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Here is a post from earlier...


[quote]bigstig wrote...


[quote]D.Sharrah wrote...

snip...

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I never though about it that way, but you are right if you follow the logic through:

Collectors were created
Husks were created
Marauders were created
Brutes were created
Cannibals were created
Banshees were created.

That is going to be one hell of a rebellion that Harbinger is going to have to deal with Posted Image[/quote]

The difference being that Harbinger had to leave some resemblance of sentience in the Collector's or otherwise he wouldn't be able to "Assume Direct Control"...otherwise what is stopping him (or other Reapers for that matter) from doing so at any point in the trilogy with these other "creations". Also...it gives another reason for the cycle - the "new blood" in the galaxy is used to put down the "previous" cycle's potential rebellion.


I am not sure how exactly to explain it...but there is something different about the Collector's...and I think that you are onto something about Cerberus being the equivalent in this cycle...but there has to be something different about the Collector's or we would see the other Reaper ground forces subject to the "Assuming Control" thing.  I think that it still very possible that what Mordrin said about the Collector's is correct...but think of the Keepers as well - similar "construct".  For the most part completely "mindless" - so mindless in fact that they eventually were altered so that they did not respond to the Reapers.

Perhaps the sticking point here is perception vs. reality.  And all that matters is the Reaper's perception...the simple fact Harbinger (and the Reapers) perceive the possibility that the Collectors will rebel is enough.  Regardless if it will actually happen or not...
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The bold part is an assumption... Collectors are no more alive or individuals than a VI. Further more; "having a VI drive your body isn't life intelligence... But it would allow for direct control.

Saren was dead... dead dead... Sovereign blew every piece of organic remnants off of him when he assumed control. Reaper tech is what allows that - although Dr. Kensin is an anomaly in that respect.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

I suppose people are dancing on the streets (aside of other activities) in Denmark.



It certainly isn't a small feat, considering that the Netherlands are the vice world champions! Denmark isn't even that good in football!

But no, I don't think anyone will be dancing on the streets just yet, considering that the championship has first started yesterday! There's a long way to go!

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Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?



AHHHHHHHH, I was going to watch that game thank you.....not on tv yet *cry*

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

I suppose people are dancing on the streets (aside of other activities) in Denmark.



It certainly isn't a small feat, considering that the Netherlands are the vice world champions! Denmark isn't even that good in football!

But no, I don't think anyone will be dancing on the streets just yet, considering that the championship has first started yesterday! There's a long way to go!

You're right. There's still 3 weeks to go. Posted Image And anything can happen. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 09 juin 2012 - 06:12 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

I suppose people are dancing on the streets (aside of other activities) in Denmark.



It certainly isn't a small feat, considering that the Netherlands are the vice world champions! Denmark isn't even that good in football!

But no, I don't think anyone will be dancing on the streets just yet, considering that the championship has first started yesterday! There's a long way to go!

You're right. There's still 3 weeks to go. Posted Image And anything can happen. Posted Image



Yup. And I hope that Denmark wins!

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@Turbo_J Have you ever noticed that there are only Prothean (species) collectors? Javik said they conquered all the other civilizations and were eventually also called Prothean but where are the other species? And if they only changed Javik's people then would the Humans be the only species chosen to be the next cycle's collectors?

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1

I admit that you usually post interesting links but could you please make them hyperlinks. It'll be easier to click on them.

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Rosewind wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?



AHHHHHHHH, I was going to watch that game thank you.....not on tv yet *cry*



Don't worry, it wasn't a very exciting game, and it only enden 1-0 in the end. I think the best part of it was Denmark's strong defensive line!

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estebanus wrote...

Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1


It does fit into his fortune-telling. Here's hoping that they're free, too.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1

I admit that you usually post interesting links but could you please make them hyperlinks. It'll be easier to click on them.



Ah, sorry. I'm not really sure how :P

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, Denmark just defeated the Netherlands in the football european championship. Not bad!

Problem, Netherlands?

I suppose people are dancing on the streets (aside of other activities) in Denmark.



It certainly isn't a small feat, considering that the Netherlands are the vice world champions! Denmark isn't even that good in football!

But no, I don't think anyone will be dancing on the streets just yet, considering that the championship has first started yesterday! There's a long way to go!

You're right. There's still 3 weeks to go. Posted Image And anything can happen. Posted Image



Yup. And I hope that Denmark wins!

Who knows. Posted Image

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MaximizedAction wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1


It does fit into his fortune-telling. Here's hoping that they're free, too.



Well, if it's released togehter with the extended cut, then...

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Wow, a supposed "leak" about ME3 was just released on reddit. And believe me, it certainly supports Arian Dynas' theory about ME3!
Read it now!
http://social.biowar...ndex/12493228/1

I admit that you usually post interesting links but could you please make them hyperlinks. It'll be easier to click on them.



Ah, sorry. I'm not really sure how :P

Unfortunately, you have to use the extended form.

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Turbo_J wrote...

Snip..

The bold part is an assumption... Collectors are no more alive or individuals than a VI. Further more; "having a VI drive your body isn't life intelligence... But it would allow for direct control.

Saren was dead... dead dead... Sovereign blew every piece of organic remnants off of him when he assumed control. Reaper tech is what allows that - although Dr. Kensin is an anomaly in that respect.



But if it was a simple as that...then why doesn't Harbinger ever "assume" control over any of the other Reaper ground forces...you would think that anyone of the battles Shep has been in where he can potentially stop/delay one of their plans would be a good enough reason to see to the problem "in person".

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Well, I'll be off again. I just wanted to share with you what I've found. Till later!

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estebanus wrote...

Well, I'll be off again. I just wanted to share with you what I've found. Till later!

Another match...

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Well, I'll be off again. I just wanted to share with you what I've found. Till later!

Another match...


Germany vs. Portugal.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Well, I'll be off again. I just wanted to share with you what I've found. Till later!

Another match...


Germany vs. Portugal.



And Portugal will kick Germany's ass!

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estebanus wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Well, I'll be off again. I just wanted to share with you what I've found. Till later!

Another match...


Germany vs. Portugal.



And Portugal will kick Germany's ass!

Isn't Germany the current World Champion?

Modifié par paxxton, 09 juin 2012 - 06:29 .