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[HellishFiend]

Rifneno wrote...

4. Literalists claim the dreams are symptomatic of post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). While true that nightmares are a symptom of PTSD, they're far from the only one. The rest of them are noticably absent for Shepard. They are not, however, absent from the asari commando in counseling and Kelly Chambers, both of whom seem to actually have PTSD. Unlike the literalists BioWare did their homework and actually knows there's more to PTSD than just nightmares. The biggest symptom is an extreme aversion to the circumstances that lead to the trauma. This is why Kelly Chambers won't come back to the Normandy and why the asari wants to be away from humans and refuses to bathe. Probably why she wants the gun too though it's unclear since she kills herself with it if she does get it. If Shepard had PTSD, then he'd have an extreme aversion to Reapers and Earth. Which, to say the very least, he doesn't.

This is an excellent point. I think we all just assumed that the PTSD explanation from Kelly was just an excuse to not have to write her character into the Normandy. But it could have that double purpose of demonstrating that there is far more to PTSD than what we see from Shepard. 

[HellishFiend]

munnellyladt wrote...

Anybody notice the oily shadow in the backround when shepard is crawling towards the control panel?

No, I'm not aware of one. Where is it, exactly?

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

Riot86 wrote...

Thanks for the explanation...that's an awesome idea, hope someone here has the right equipment to see into it

If someone could prove that there is subwoofer movement on the Normandy even though our human ears cannot hear a thing, that would be a "Big One" fur sure. Sorry I can't assist in this matter, as I said I'm notr actually a tech-guy  

The Derelict Reaper, Object Rho, Cronos Station, the Relay Monument or even the Citadel itself might be places worth checking out while investigating the Infrasound.

That's just the thing though, we already know there is subwoofer movement, and lots of it. The problem is without that specific equipment or analyzer, we dont know if any of it is around the 15hz ballpark. If there is any around that area, its basically confirmation that there is an indoctrination signal on the Normandy. TSA says it's confirmed based on his tests, but we still need proof. 

Can't find the file containing Normandy's ambient noise. Too much to look through.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 juin 2012 - 08:27 .

[HellishFiend]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Can't find the file containing Normandy's ambient noise. Too much to look through.

Not totally necessary to find it. Just launch a sound recorder and set your recording to be done from the "What you hear" channel. Some audio chipsets dont support it, but most of the better ones do. Record some raw audio from the game on the Normandy, and make sure you save the file at the highest possible quality so it doesnt crop out any frequencies. Then run it through a sound analyzer. 

Using that method, there is somewhat of a chance that it wont work, if your audio chipset or sound recorder automatically filters out those frequencies, but it's worth trying if we cant find the file. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 10 juin 2012 - 08:31 .

[SirLugash]

TJBartlemus wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote....

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?

This also helps with what I said in a fact the the decision room doesn't even exist.

Bioware was lazy, what else could it be ?

[FFZero]

JasonSic wrote...

FFZero wrote...

JasonSic wrote...

FFZero wrote...

Don't know if this has been mentioned before but I was just listening to some of the sounds extracted from the game, specifically the ones used in the dream sequences, and I came across something the kid says that I can't say that I've heard in game before. The clip has the kid saying what clearly sounds like 'Please come home'. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't everything the kid says in the dream based on what he says back on Earth? Don't think I've ever heard him saying ‘please come home’.

Also I'm pretty sure I'm going to have nightmares tonight, that kids laugh is seriously creeping me out.

Do you remember which file it's from? I extracted all the dialog too, but there's like 42,342 files lol.

wwise_norhub_dreams I think.

I hear it too.

wwise_norhub_dreams.01 - You can't help me.
wwise_norhub_dreams.02 - Please come home.
wwise_norhub_dreams.03 - Everyone's dying.

I remember the kid saying 01 and 03 back on earth, but not 02...

And what is 04 to 12? It sounds like Harbinger laughing in the background or something.

Don't know what 04 - 12 are, could be laughing, but to me it just sounds like random noises.

13 is interesting since to me it sounds like white noise with a slight reverb on it, correct me if I'm wrong but isn't white noise believed to have an effect on the mind?

Also another somewhat interesting thing to note with the sound files is the ones where the kid is crying have no reverb over them, so they don't sound all echoey, the laughs however do. Could be nothing but I find it interesting.

[TJBartlemus]

SirLugash wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote....

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?

This also helps with what I said in a fact the the decision room doesn't even exist.

Bioware was lazy, what else could it be ?

Well regarding my other post on how you went up, I was watching the control room scene again, and I noticed that you have to be up in the tower because if you were upside down to the tower when you look up it would start to curve in which it doesn't. Meaning you are somewhere in the tower and going up would not bring you to the base of the tower.

[TJBartlemus]

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Anybody notice the oily shadow in the backround when shepard is crawling towards the control panel?

No, I'm not aware of one. Where is it, exactly?

Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Edit: Or what he meant was the what looks like a stain on the control panel a few seconds later. Always found that wierd.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 10 juin 2012 - 08:42 .

[HellishFiend]

TJBartlemus wrote...
Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Thanks, I see it now. It does have some of the same qualities as the oily shadows but I dont think we can be sure of anything. 

[TJBartlemus]

HellishFiend wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Thanks, I see it now. It does have some of the same qualities as the oily shadows but I dont think we can be sure of anything. 

You should check the thing on the control panel cause it's there and then a few seconds later when he goes up the elevator (which doesn't go the right way) it's gone.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 10 juin 2012 - 08:46 .

[masster blaster]

HellishFiend wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Thanks, I see it now. It does have some of the same qualities as the oily shadows but I dont think we can be sure of anything. 

Well the Rachni Queen said her people saw oily shadows plus the Reapers infulens made there songs sour like the buzzing in the ear when Shepard starts hearing things.

[Corik]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Anybody notice the oily shadow in the backround when shepard is crawling towards the control panel?

No, I'm not aware of one. Where is it, exactly?

Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Edit: Or what he meant was the what looks like a stain on the control panel a few seconds later. Always found that wierd.

Actually.... good catch. I think I see what you mean... It's not the normal "oily shadow" but it's definetely something to think about.

[Dwailing]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

4. Literalists claim the dreams are symptomatic of post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD). While true that nightmares are a symptom of PTSD, they're far from the only one. The rest of them are noticably absent for Shepard. They are not, however, absent from the asari commando in counseling and Kelly Chambers, both of whom seem to actually have PTSD. Unlike the literalists BioWare did their homework and actually knows there's more to PTSD than just nightmares. The biggest symptom is an extreme aversion to the circumstances that lead to the trauma. This is why Kelly Chambers won't come back to the Normandy and why the asari wants to be away from humans and refuses to bathe. Probably why she wants the gun too though it's unclear since she kills herself with it if she does get it. If Shepard had PTSD, then he'd have an extreme aversion to Reapers and Earth. Which, to say the very least, he doesn't.

This is an excellent point. I think we all just assumed that the PTSD explanation from Kelly was just an excuse to not have to write her character into the Normandy. But it could have that double purpose of demonstrating that there is far more to PTSD than what we see from Shepard. 

You know, Mac Walters would probably be VERY familiar with PTSD since he does have a degree in psychology.

[munnellyladt]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Anybody notice the oily shadow in the backround when shepard is crawling towards the control panel?

No, I'm not aware of one. Where is it, exactly?

Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Edit: Or what he meant was the what looks like a stain on the control panel a few seconds later. Always found that wierd.

That is definitley not exhaust or smoke,if you look at smoke its always in a cloud or something while if you look at the oily thing in the scene it starts to spread out and dissapear+it wasn't there when your were making your way to the control pannel either.

[MegumiAzusa]

SirLugash wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote....

Check this out. If Shepard was on the Citadel, then where are all of the features of the decision room?

This also helps with what I said in a fact the the decision room doesn't even exist.

Bioware was lazy, what else could it be ?

Omg I'm away for the week end and when I return I see this again >.>

Btw heard of the new DLC stuff posted on reddit? Sounds exactly like AD predicted.

Modifié par MegumiAzusa, 10 juin 2012 - 08:51 .

[masster blaster]

My question is why would the god child even let Shepard control the Reapers. If Shepard was Paragon I could see that happening, but Renegade Shepard I will have to say no, because if I was the god child ( thank god I am not) then I would not allow Shepard to control the Reapers, since a Organic could not comprehend the power.

[SirLugash]

TJBartlemus wrote...



Well regarding my other post on how you went up, I was watching the control room scene again, and I noticed that you have to be up in the tower because if you were upside down to the tower when you look up it would start to curve in which it doesn't. Meaning you are somewhere in the tower and going up would not bring you to the base of the tower.

Not just that.
Remember that at least the Wards have their gravity because of the rotation of the Citadel ?
As you walk to the console, you see the Wards in front of you, which means, assuming we are on the other side of the circle, we wouldn't be able to stand upwards.
Gravity wouldn't grab at our feet but on our backs.

[HellishFiend]

Dwailing wrote...


You know, Mac Walters would probably be VERY familiar with PTSD since he does have a degree in psychology.

That goes without saying. The question is whether or not Mass Effect is really just a simple game, or perhaps an experiment involving having a psychological Effect on the Masses.....

I always thought it was weird how a very large percentage of players said they had trouble concentrating the first time through the Catalyst scene. 

[SirLugash]

MegumiAzusa wrote...
Omg I'm away for the week end and when I return I see this again >.>

Btw heard of the new DLC stuff posted on reddit? Sounds exactly like AD predicted.

What DLC stuff ?

[munnellyladt]

TJBartlemus wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...
Here in this, , at 9:06 or 9:07 there is a oily like thing but it could easily be exhaust or smoke.

Thanks, I see it now. It does have some of the same qualities as the oily shadows but I dont think we can be sure of anything. 

You should check the thing on the control panel cause it's there and then a few seconds later when he goes up the elevator (which doesn't go the right way) it's gone.

Whats on the control panel?cause i dont see anything

[Corik]

masster blaster wrote...

My question is why would the god child even let Shepard control the Reapers. If Shepard was Paragon I could see that happening, but Renegade Shepard I will have to say no, because if I was the god child ( thank god I am not) then I would not allow Shepard to control the Reapers, since a Organic could not comprehend the power.

Because the ending is completely messed up. It's like in Star Wars the ending was a wedding between Palpatine and Mon Mothma.

[TJBartlemus]

On the Indoctrination Theory: a documentary, the guy goes on about how your armor no matter what you have before the laser with Harby it always turns into the burn armor and it looks nothing like the custom you used? Well freeze the video below at 9:19 and you can clearly see the N7 stripe on your right arm. So for example you use collector armor and then it turns into N7? Unlikely.

[HellishFiend]

TJBartlemus wrote...

You should check the thing on the control panel cause it's there and then a few seconds later when he goes up the elevator (which doesn't go the right way) it's gone.

Are you proposing that it might mean something, or just finding it curious?

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...


You know, Mac Walters would probably be VERY familiar with PTSD since he does have a degree in psychology.

That goes without saying. The question is whether or not Mass Effect is really just a simple game, or perhaps an experiment involving having a psychological Effect on the Masses.....

I always thought it was weird how a very large percentage of players said they had trouble concentrating the first time through the Catalyst scene. 

I'd love to see the results!

[masster blaster]

I also would like to point out if we combined Shepard's energy to the Crucible should it have been different depending on whether you are Paragon, or renegade? It should have been if you took the good path the galaxy should be at peace, but that went out the window when the Renegade Shepard chooses Synthesis and had the same exact ending as the Paragon Shepard did.

I was hoping that if you choose Synthesis as Renegade Shepard the Galaxy should have been fully corrupted.