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[HellishFiend]

Macgummi wrote...


Free Me3 DLC for all conributors?

It´s kinda off-topic but I wanted to know how sure you guys really are about IT coming true when the EC will be released.

I'm personally about 95% sure that IT is correct. 

[Rifneno]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Look I don't know how many fans of Mass Effect are in agreement with IT but we need more supporter.

I not saying we should force people and fans to support IT but a rally of IT fans/Me fans that don"t know what to do.

We also need some support from Ea,and Bioware staff that support IT. If we can do it without being jerks, then maybe they will give in to IT but as a peace sentiment.

Can anyone repost the link to the poll on HTL?

Or to the official survey?

anyway, here's the one for the HTL one.

http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

Thanks. I don't think that was an official BioWare survey on that German website, rather a fan-conducted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare took a closer look at the results.

Look at who the OP is.

[paxxton]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Look I don't know how many fans of Mass Effect are in agreement with IT but we need more supporter.

I not saying we should force people and fans to support IT but a rally of IT fans/Me fans that don"t know what to do.

We also need some support from Ea,and Bioware staff that support IT. If we can do it without being jerks, then maybe they will give in to IT but as a peace sentiment.

Can anyone repost the link to the poll on HTL?

Or to the official survey?

anyway, here's the one for the HTL one.

http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

Thanks. I don't think that was an official BioWare survey on that German website, rather a fan-conducted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare took a closer look at the results.

Look at who the OP is.

Who is he?

[byne]

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Look I don't know how many fans of Mass Effect are in agreement with IT but we need more supporter.

I not saying we should force people and fans to support IT but a rally of IT fans/Me fans that don"t know what to do.

We also need some support from Ea,and Bioware staff that support IT. If we can do it without being jerks, then maybe they will give in to IT but as a peace sentiment.

Can anyone repost the link to the poll on HTL?

Or to the official survey?

anyway, here's the one for the HTL one.

http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

Thanks. I don't think that was an official BioWare survey on that German website, rather a fan-conducted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare took a closer look at the results.

Look at who the OP is.

Paxxton doesnt mean the HTL poll, he means the survey from that german site.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You guys remember when we discussed the meaning of RGB in the endings?

And??

I don't remember who , but someone suggested that it might have a connection to the displays and holographic interfaces we see throughout all of ME3. And that idea is legit because a lot of them show an RGB decomposition on around the edges -- and that quite obviously so. Everyone must've noticed that.

Now, recently I've been trying to link the visual presentation of the Synthesis ending to IT, but failed so. But I wondered if that was already settled or if not, someone could have an idea or two:



After Shepard jumps into the beam and dissolves, we start seeing everything RGB decomposed, as if it was in a ME3 in-game monitor. The Citadel shockwave, the Relay explosions, pretty much everything, the wave hits, momentarily shows is visually RGB decomposed.

It of course makes sense because of the purpose of the choice "Synthesis": organics merge with synthetics (often presented by computers, which are associated with displays which have RGB pixels) and so the organic Shepard is decomposed into RGB, while the synthetic Reapers get a green glow...and so on.

But since I find that no other ending-visual is so metaphor-ladden, I'm pondering about a possibly deeper meaning of it, hence maybe having a connection to IT.
So maybe some of you could explain or suggest an IT-interpretation for it.

But nonetheless, the RGB representation of the endings, being connected to synthetics makes now much more sense to me.

[estebanus]

HellishFiend wrote...

Macgummi wrote...


Free Me3 DLC for all conributors?

It´s kinda off-topic but I wanted to know how sure you guys really are about IT coming true when the EC will be released.

I'm personally about 95% sure that IT is correct. 

I'd say I'm about 85-90% sure about it.

[paxxton]

byne wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Look I don't know how many fans of Mass Effect are in agreement with IT but we need more supporter.

I not saying we should force people and fans to support IT but a rally of IT fans/Me fans that don"t know what to do.

We also need some support from Ea,and Bioware staff that support IT. If we can do it without being jerks, then maybe they will give in to IT but as a peace sentiment.

Can anyone repost the link to the poll on HTL?

Or to the official survey?

anyway, here's the one for the HTL one.

http://www.holdtheli...on-theory.1909/

Thanks. I don't think that was an official BioWare survey on that German website, rather a fan-conducted. Though I wouldn't be surprised if BioWare took a closer look at the results.

Look at who the OP is.

Paxxton doesnt mean the HTL poll, he means the survey from that german site.

Exactly.

[Arian Dynas]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Btw, here's another possible hallucination association, the big swirly mass at the top of the beam, kinda like the big swirly mass that makes up the galaxy map.

I'd have to take another look to see what you're referring to. But it honestly wouldnt surprise me. It's starting to seem like everything in London is a rehash from Shepard's past with some lore-breaking elements thrown in to add to the surreality. 

The one thing I cant figure is how Major Coates would fit into it. He seems to be the one and only unique element that cant possibly have been from Shepard's past.

I'm back. Did a little MP marathon to get my readiness rating back up to 100 and promote a few classes. I figure once I hit 2K for the N7 I won't need to play MP to get decent endings... it will be optional like it really should have been.

For the record: I'm pretty sure the clock does not exist in the breath scene. Hellish and I both looked into it the best we could and the only clear view of whatever object is in the background does not have the correct structure. It looks like a round circle surrounded by flared out corners. That first image is compelling but it's inconclusive at best.

So clock = debunked so far.

One thing I did find while I was digging around was that the time on Big Ben and the clock at the LZ are the same 10:05. We can argue it's a static image, but the time changes in the final cut scene when you see the color coded shock wave wash over it. It reads 11:45.

So... London. Seems we've poked enough about this to get peoples attention that it may not real... or could be a waking dream like others have suggested. Even though there is more to investigate within London itself, I think a few key events leading up to it are important.

Still in the "Shuttle never landed" camp.

Cronos.

It's odd, that goes without saying. Even EDI acts a little strange, but I think she just may be trying to prove herself. Her knowledge of what is on the console recordings is a little unsettling.

Still think we can explain this one, much like you did, as EDI basically being uncomfortable a bit, and just being familiar with Cerberus and their actions. Either that or the information that she is telling you is descriptive information she is downloading directly from the computers.

The creaking sounds:

The breath scene has creaking sounds. Now I know Cronos does not (may not) have concrete - Humans didn't build it so who knows what's in there, but would the ground in London creek? - This is one of the reasons inferring that the hallucinations start after the shuttle crash or the transport truck crash make sense... they could make creaking noises.

This and the pulses during the beam sequence (drawing similarities to the Hades Cannon beam) are a big part of what put me in that camp.

Last chat at the QEC:

Hackett boards the Normandy with armed guards and they have their guns drawn. Some claimed this was a re-purposed scene because BW had originally planned for Shep to be taken into custody prior to the trial that never happened... I hope not. So if it really is not re-purposed, why would Hackett board with armed men... why would he board the ship of his most trusted soldier with an escort at all.

This can be chalked up to military protocol. Spoke with my father about it, who is a retired military man, when an officer leaves one ship to board another, he has a military escort, no matter what the situation is. PERIOD, he does not go aboard without them, on the off chance that say the ship has been captured by enemy forces, or things of that nature. It's basically something they do no matter the situation.

The conversation with Hackett and Anderson prior to London:

This is really really odd. The dialog, the sideways glaces from them both. I just got the sense that they were setting Shepard up. Could the Alliance be smart enough to use Shepard as a diversion, or is all this odd for another reason.

May have to watch it again, I saw no weirdness personally. I forget is paranoia can be a symptom of indoctrination, perhaps Shepard is merely thinking he sees them plotting?

The fleet dropping into Sol:

So 2K ships can enter the Sol system through a relay with almost no time between them and they can appear hundreds of kilometers from the relay itself. Looks like FTL to me... did they travel the long way from the nearest relay to Sol and just not explain it? Could be argued as scene aesthetics. It sure did look good.

I personally liked your theory that they used several relays to enter the local cluster, then the rest FTLed from nearby systems, because looking at the scene, it DOES look more like ships dropping out of FTL than it does relay travel.

And yeah, they did say they mostly did it cause it looked cool. Can't really blame them for that, I got chills.

When I first started suspecting Indoctrination, Cronos was my very first suspect of where it started. Not necessarily hallucinations, just the start of where everything in the game feel shifted. The tone undeniably changes here. It was bad on Horizon, but Cronos just makes my skin crawl.  I'm starting to lean back in that direction. I'm not there completely, but I really think Cronos as a key component in the alteration of Shepards perceptions. The proto-Reaper being there - and the entire feeling of that area... *shivers*

Yep, shore be sum creepeh. I think that this would be the point where things start getting weird, but we don't leave reality until we start going down to Earth, then shuttle gets shot out of the sky, we crash land, team gathers together until Shepard can get a medical evac, Liara tries to enter his mind, the others have talks with him while he's comatose, ect.

[masster blaster]

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

[HellishFiend]

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

I dont like where this is going....

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

You guys remember when we discussed the meaning of RGB in the endings?

And??

I don't remember who , but someone suggested that it might have a connection to the displays and holographic interfaces we see throughout all of ME3. And that idea is legit because a lot of them show an RGB decomposition on around the edges -- and that quite obviously so. Everyone must've noticed that.

Now, recently I've been trying to link the visual presentation of the Synthesis ending to IT, but failed so. But I wondered if that was already settled or if not, someone could have an idea or two:



After Shepard jumps into the beam and dissolves, we start seeing everything RGB decomposed, as if it was in a ME3 in-game monitor. The Citadel shockwave, the Relay explosions, pretty much everything, the wave hits, momentarily shows is visually RGB decomposed.

It of course makes sense because of the purpose of the choice "Synthesis": organics merge with synthetics (often presented by computers, which are associated with displays which have RGB pixels) and so the organic Shepard is decomposed into RGB, while the synthetic Reapers get a green glow...and so on.

But since I find that no other ending-visual is so metaphor-ladden, I'm pondering about a possibly deeper meaning of it, hence maybe having a connection to IT.
So maybe some of you could explain or suggest an IT-interpretation for it.

But nonetheless, the RGB representation of the endings, being connected to synthetics makes now much more sense to me.

If in anything I would search for meaning in the colors itself. Rather than their usage within the game.

E.g. green is the color that human eyes perceive the strongest.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juin 2012 - 10:24 .

[masster blaster]

So what is the head count of IT supporters on IT ,and why hasn't angry Joe done anything for ME3? Not that I am complaining but he was a huge help with IT and Accovos.
Sorry misspelled his tag name.

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

Not asking for troble but I just want to know because if we can convice them without provoking them without being like cry babys, and Jerks maybe we can persued them to go along with IT, but not buy cash.

[darthnick427]

If IT doesn't happen......may god have mercy on Bioware....because I won't give them any

Modifié par darthnick427, 10 juin 2012 - 10:26 .

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

So what is the head count of IT supporters on IT ,and why hasn't angry Joe done anything for ME3? Not that I am complaining but he was a huge help with IT and Accovos.
Sorry misspelled his tag name.

ACAVYOS went dark and haven't published any videos for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if it was BioWare teasing fans. His Shepard Indoctrination video was quite professional and thorough. Looked like a good fan-made one.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juin 2012 - 10:28 .

[masster blaster]

Edit along with what I said
But maybe we can show them what we found and try to help them see ( not that they don't know about it already) that we have a good sense of heart in doing this, and we are not asking for them to change the ending but a continuation of the Choices we made, but not with cinematic alone.

Besides they say they listen to the fans and take the fans feed back with care so if we do this maybe they will take it into consideration.

[HellishFiend]

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

Not asking for troble but I just want to know because if we can convice them without provoking them without being like cry babys, and Jerks maybe we can persued them to go along with IT, but not buy cash.

Bioware made it clear they would not deviate from their original intent, regardless of whether the ending was an indoctrination sequence or not. The only thing they supposedly changed was the addition of the EC to their single player content DLC development and release schedule. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 10 juin 2012 - 10:31 .

[masster blaster]

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what is the head count of IT supporters on IT ,and why hasn't angry Joe done anything for ME3? Not that I am complaining but he was a huge help with IT and Accovos.
Sorry misspelled his tag name.

ACAVYOS went dark and haven't published any videos for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if it was BioWare teasing fans. His Shepard Indoctrination video was quite professional and thorough. Looked like a good fan-made one.

and Angry Joe?

[estebanus]

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

Not asking for troble but I just want to know because if we can convice them without provoking them without being like cry babys, and Jerks maybe we can persued them to go along with IT, but not buy cash.

Isn't the IT about Bioware having planned this from the beginning? what sense would it then have to "persuade" them?

[paxxton]

OK, since we are off-topic. How do you like the links in my signature? I want to hear a lot of praise.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juin 2012 - 10:34 .

[masster blaster]

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

Not asking for troble but I just want to know because if we can convice them without provoking them without being like cry babys, and Jerks maybe we can persued them to go along with IT, but not buy cash.

Bioware made it clear they would not deviate from their original intent, regardless of whether the ending was an indoctrination sequence or not. The only thing they supposedly changed was the addition of the EC to their single player content DLC development and release schedule. 

Then what was the point in " we take our fan feedback with the up most regard" so you mean to tell me instead of listing to there fans like they promised they would in the end do it there own whay and not what the fans thought of it also. I don't think Bioware would just say they will not change athe ending at all.

But maybe a little bit of the ending.

[masster blaster]

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

estebanus wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Does anyone know a Bioware, or Ea staff member, or a cast member from Mass effect?

Uuhh... This doesn't sound good...

Not asking for troble but I just want to know because if we can convice them without provoking them without being like cry babys, and Jerks maybe we can persued them to go along with IT, but not buy cash.

Isn't the IT about Bioware having planned this from the beginning? what sense would it then have to "persuade" them?

Yes but it's possible they could have forgoten about it so we need to refresh their memory with kindness.

[HellishFiend]

masster blaster wrote...

Then what was the point in " we take our fan feedback with the up most regard" so you mean to tell me instead of listing to there fans like they promised they would in the end do it there own whay and not what the fans thought of it also. I don't think Bioware would just say they will not change athe ending at all.

But maybe a little bit of the ending.

No, that isnt what I mean at all. Bioware uses fan feedback to craft the stories of the individual characters and races, but not the overarching plot. The overarching plot is Bioware's alone. The creative control that they share with the players is regarding the characters and the relationships between them. 

A good example of this is all the "Calibrations" jokes and references. If it hadnt been for the massive fan outcry over the lack of dialog with Garrus in ME2, those jokes wouldnt be in there.

Another good example is the fact that Garrus and Tali are squadmates. They are by far the most popular characters, and there is no way Bioware would have spent that much time and effort making them primary figures in the game unless they knew most people wanted it, because of the fact that they could very well be dead in any given playthrough. 

[paxxton]

masster blaster wrote...

paxxton wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

So what is the head count of IT supporters on IT ,and why hasn't angry Joe done anything for ME3? Not that I am complaining but he was a huge help with IT and Accovos.
Sorry misspelled his tag name.

ACAVYOS went dark and haven't published any videos for a long time. I wouldn't be surprised if it was BioWare teasing fans. His Shepard Indoctrination video was quite professional and thorough. Looked like a good fan-made one.

and Angry Joe?

I saw ACAVYOS' video first and was so impressed by it that I decided to post on BSN and search for more answers. I watched Angry Joe's video later. It was ok but I liked the ACAVYOS' more.