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[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

@MaximizedAction: Did you consider the symbolism of the RGB colors?

Well the colors are not the problem. As I wrote earlier, they appear as 'pixel' layers for the various displays all over ME3, represent computers, hence synthetics; the Citadel is made by the Reapers, hence the decision chamber's machine being based on these colors is ok within that context; and if we as organics throw ourselves into the Synthesize beam, we see our organic world becoming synthetic, hence Shepard's view decomposing itself into red/green/blue. That symbolises becoming synthetic.

My quest has been finding a link: RGB having a synthetic meaning <-> IT. Maybe deriving from this that the Crucible's functionality stemming from the Reapers all along, hence backing up the hypothesis that it is a Reaper trap. Or something to that extend.

Again, the colors are fine. Red for destroy and co links back to the ME2 collector base destruction color and represents either the Reapers (blue) or their destruction (red). Green, of course represents organic life, as we see on the Reapers' color in the aftermath of Synthesis.

[paxxton]

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Yes linear combination is the addition of vectors (multiplied by scalar values).

Yup.

[MegumiAzusa]

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Yes linear combination is the addition of vectors (multiplied by scalar values).

Yup.

And you can do all sorts of stupid things with that in computer graphics, loads of fun!

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Hm, now I remember, how very euclidian of me to call it that way. That was how it's called in introductory books in physics  Of course, in general vector spaces the term 'linear combination' is more appropriate. I see I should get some sleep...

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 10 juin 2012 - 11:49 .

[paxxton]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Yes linear combination is the addition of vectors (multiplied by scalar values).

Yup.

And you can do all sorts of stupid things with that in computer graphics, loads of fun!

Yup.  3D Matrix-based Transformations.

[Arian Dynas]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...
I cheat at Munchkin

I always thought that was one of the points in the game.

Yeah pretty much. 

[Andromidius]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

(the other was Michael Bay's "Armageddon"... which he felt was a realistic veiw of what would happen if an asteroid was going to hit Earth.)

....

God.  I don't even know what to say to that.

Fun movie, mostly due to the cast.

But realistic?  Hahahahaha... no.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Hm, now I remember, how very euclidian of me to call it that way. That was how it's called in introductory books in physics  Of course, in general vector spaces the term 'linear combination' is more appropriate. I see I should get some sleep...

And we haven't even touched on Affine Spaces yet. There you have a constraint on cofactors. Their sum < 1. Or <= (I don't remember). And now you can have a sum of points.

Modifié par paxxton, 10 juin 2012 - 11:57 .

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

(the other was Michael Bay's "Armageddon"... which he felt was a realistic veiw of what would happen if an asteroid was going to hit Earth.)

....

God.  I don't even know what to say to that.

Yeah... I hated that man. Alot.

I can see why.  I mean it wasn't a bad movie as long as you're just looking for special effects and typical Bruce Willis crap, but... realistic?  The only part of it that was realistic was that all hell broke loose when people found out the world was going to end.  But I'm pretty sure sending an oil driller up there with the biggest hydrogen bomb you can find isn't how it would work out.  They didn't even have time to make an H-bomb for that purpose and all existing ones would be far too small for that purpose since they're made to be detonated on Earth.

No need to tell me why it's unscientific, I was muttering the reasons why throughout the entire class period. Transferring schools had definete detriments.

[Arashi08]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

I'd bet that whatever they're talking about at Comic-Con isn't the EC, but something to do with one of the two ME movies being made this year. Probably a trailer for one or both of them.

uuuuuugh..I will never...NEVER see that movie...

Edit: I mean the live-action one by Legendary, the one that is basically a movie version of ME1.  I might see the animated one.

Why? We literally don't know anything about it yet

They revealed some of their plans for it at comic-con last year, most notably about it being a movie version of the first game and having a male Shepard. 

I can't think of a movie that has nailed for formula for translating video games into motion pictures, and I have a bad feeling about trying to make a movie based on the events of the first game.  ALOT will have to be cut of course, and I have to wonder if they will choose wisely.  also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.  that's just my personal thing though I wouldn't condone the movie and say that no one should see it, but I don't like the direction they are taking the movie so I won't be seeing it (unless they changed the direction and I didn't notice, in which case I'll likely look it up again).  I think they should have done the movie based on the Revelation's novel, but that's just my opinion.

[EpyonX3]

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

Modifié par EpyonX3, 10 juin 2012 - 11:59 .

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@MaximizedAction: Did you consider the symbolism of the RGB colors?

Well the colors are not the problem. As I wrote earlier, they appear as 'pixel' layers for the various displays all over ME3, represent computers, hence synthetics; the Citadel is made by the Reapers, hence the decision chamber's machine being based on these colors is ok within that context; and if we as organics throw ourselves into the Synthesize beam, we see our organic world becoming synthetic, hence Shepard's view decomposing itself into red/green/blue. That symbolises becoming synthetic.

My quest has been finding a link: RGB having a synthetic meaning <-> IT. Maybe deriving from this that the Crucible's functionality stemming from the Reapers all along, hence backing up the hypothesis that it is a Reaper trap. Or something to that extend.

Again, the colors are fine. Red for destroy and co links back to the ME2 collector base destruction color and represents either the Reapers (blue) or their destruction (red). Green, of course represents organic life, as we see on the Reapers' color in the aftermath of Synthesis.

I think it's just colored so for show. You know, you have chosen to shoot a red tube so the London scene is red.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Hm, now I remember, how very euclidian of me to call it that way. That was how it's called in introductory books in physics  Of course, in general vector spaces the term 'linear combination' is more appropriate. I see I should get some sleep...

And we haven't even touched on Affine Spaces yet.

I remember how surprised I was to see that affine vector spaces allow you to show why solutions to inhomogenious linear first order diff. eq. look the way they look.
But nonetheless, Functional Analysis is where I found out how awesomely useful vector spaces and topological spaces really are. Damn, that biest of a branch is as beautiful as IT.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 11 juin 2012 - 12:02 .

[Rifneno]

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

[paxxton]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

The Reapers have inoculated that thought in Shepard's mind during the first 2 games. They started the indoctrination and after that the process is perpetual. Shepard thinks, thinks, thinks and gets indoctrinated.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 12:08 .

[HellishFiend]

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

GethPrimeMKII wrote...

I have returned after much time spent reading all the ME comics and novels.

Did they spark any new speculations for you?

They make the theory more solid and convincing. Next time you run into a die-hard literalist, ask them if they've read the comics and novels.

I agree. I believed IT was correct even before I read the comics and novels. They strongly solidified my belief. 

[Arian Dynas]

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

[MegumiAzusa]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

No, it's not unlikely as there is evidence in Arrival that Shepard is already somewhat indoctrinated.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...
As I wrote, superposition. You mathematicians don't call it that way?

Lol, not exactly^_^

They call it linear combination, I think.

Hm, now I remember, how very euclidian of me to call it that way. That was how it's called in introductory books in physics  Of course, in general vector spaces the term 'linear combination' is more appropriate. I see I should get some sleep...

And we haven't even touched on Affine Spaces yet.

I remember how surprised I was to see that affine vector spaces allow you to show why solutions to inhomogenious linear first order diff. eq. look the way they look.
But nonetheless, Functional Analysis is where I found out how awesomely useful vector spaces and topological spaces really are. Damn, that biest of a branch is as beautiful as IT.

This is some serious stuff you're studying.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 12:06 .

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

1) Reapers have telepathic abilities, the extent of which are unknown, but almost certainly encompass the ability to know Shepard was on Earth while they approached. 
2) What does that have to do with anything? Shepard didnt die on Earth, so it's a moot point. Are you implying the Reapers' completion of their culling of the current cycle hinges on this point?
3) You're assuming that is the case while many IT believers think otherwise, so that isnt a fair concern to expect us to address. 
4) See above. In fact, I'd say that point number 4 actually supports IT, because I doubt the Reapers are so blind as to leave the Crucible construction unnoticed and unfettered for months if it is really a threat to them. 
5) If you question the Reapers' ability to do this, I'm wondering if we actually played the same games or not. 

[FFZero]

Okay I’ve been listening to a load of the sound files used in them game, particularly in the dream sequences, and doing some research on how different sounds effect the mind/body and I found something interesting.

I found a sound in the .afc file linked to the dream sequences that sounds a lot like white noise, just slightly muffled. White noise is known to be used as a way to disorient people before interrogation or as part of sensory deprivation techniques.

Now as far as I can tell this white noise sound is only found in the dream sequences, I haven’t seen it come up again in any other files. More importantly though, I think it’s only used in the final dream. I’m not 100% sure, it’s hard to tell, but the final dream definitely sounds a lot noisier than the second. There seems to be a lot more going on in the background, I think it’s used as a backing track to the whispers.

Could just be my imagination, since I’m actively trying to find/hear it, and the white noise file isn’t actually used. Also does anyone know if the kid ever says anything in the dream? Do we hear his voice at all other him crying/creepily laughing? There are files of him speaking/whispering but I can’t recall hearing them in the game.

[BleedingUranium]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

[olshi]

Who are the VAs in the stargazer scene? I thought it had the worst voice acting in the entire series.

[Arashi08]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

My thoughts exactly.