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[MaximizedAction]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

www.ingame.msnbc.msn.com/technology/ingame/mass-effect-movie-wont-be-based-mass-effect-games-120565
But

Legendary goes on to say that the film will star the male Commander Shepard rather than the beloved FemShep (hardly a surprise) and that they can't say whether the movie— like the games— might become a trilogy.

So...yeaaah...

paxxton wrote...

This is some serious stuff you're studying.

Standard lore for physics students in Germany.


EDIT: Why am I been starting new pages all the time???

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 11 juin 2012 - 12:18 .

[HellishFiend]

FFZero wrote...

Okay I’ve been listening to a load of the sound files used in them game, particularly in the dream sequences, and doing some research on how different sounds effect the mind/body and I found something interesting.

I found a sound in the .afc file linked to the dream sequences that sounds a lot like white noise, just slightly muffled. White noise is known to be used as a way to disorient people before interrogation or as part of sensory deprivation techniques.

Now as far as I can tell this white noise sound is only found in the dream sequences, I haven’t seen it come up again in any other files. More importantly though, I think it’s only used in the final dream. I’m not 100% sure, it’s hard to tell, but the final dream definitely sounds a lot noisier than the second. There seems to be a lot more going on in the background, I think it’s used as a backing track to the whispers.

Could just be my imagination, since I’m actively trying to find/hear it, and the white noise file isn’t actually used. Also does anyone know if the kid ever says anything in the dream? Do we hear his voice at all other him crying/creepily laughing? There are files of him speaking/whispering but I can’t recall hearing them in the game.

I believe all of those dream sounds, including the kid's whispers, are jumbled together to the extent that you cant really make any of them out individually.

I'm curious though where you learned that white noise has detrimental effects. I've never heard that before. I actually find white noise quite soothing, as I typically sleep with a box fan on purely for the relaxing effect of the white noise. 

[GethPrimeMKII]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

I fail to see how the reapers would have had to essentially be able to tell the future to allow this theory make sense.

[BansheeOwnage]

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

I don't find it surprising at all that they chose maleshep. Maybe that's better. Think of how badly they could screw up femshep in a movie. Regardless I'll see the movie to judge for myself.

[masster blaster]

Arashi08 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Yes I now I like the Peace thing but if the EC goes south then we need to be ready.

Ready for what? I think we're on different wavelengths here. Getting defensive or going up in arms is not going to serve any positive purpose whatsoever. And it certainly isnt the point of this thread, to be sure. 

agreed, this thread isn't about forming an IT army or getting a bunch of supporters, or at least it shouldn't be.  I don't care so much about the IT that I will be devastated if it isn't true, just as long as we get a satisfying ending.  I happen to like IT because it offers alot of interestng information about things we didn't originally expect to find in the game and it brings alot of people together who can think critically and discuss all this information out there surrounding BioWare's upcoming plans.  if trolls want to attack this thread because IT is proven wrong in the future so what?  For me it isn't about anti-IT vs Pro-IT it is about being mature and thinking about the situation instead of just getting angry about it. 

Hope is an important thing ME fans could use right now and this thread offers it with alot if contributions.

That's the way I see it anyway, sorry for rambling on.

um you do realize I got him to put a picture of Tim saying " have a little faith" which was my goal to get on this forum.

So that was the reason for it all? well...congratz i guess lol

well I do have to admit an army of IT folks gonig to Bioware HQ that would be a lovly site. Do you think.

[byne]

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...


I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

www.ingame.msnbc.msn.com/technology/ingame/mass-effect-movie-wont-be-based-mass-effect-games-120565
But

Legendary goes on to say that the film will star the male Commander Shepard rather than the beloved FemShep (hardly a surprise) and that they can't say whether the movie— like the games— might become a trilogy.

So...yeaaah...

So, I looked at that article and saw this:

Likewise, someone submitted a question asking if actor Seth Green will play Joker in the movie. (Green — who starred in the "Austin Powers" movies and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" TV series — is a fan favorite and the voice actor behind the mouthy "Mass Effect" pilot Joker.) Legendary had only a one-word answer for that casting question: "No."

Haha, well **** that movie then.

Modifié par byne, 11 juin 2012 - 12:21 .

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

1) Reapers have telepathic abilities, the extent of which are unknown, but almost certainly encompass the ability to know Shepard was on Earth while they approached. 
2) What does that have to do with anything? Shepard didnt die on Earth, so it's a moot point. Are you implying the Reapers' completion of their culling of the current cycle hinges on this point?
3) You're assuming that is the case while many IT believers think otherwise, so that isnt a fair concern to expect us to address. 
4) See above. In fact, I'd say that point number 4 actually supports IT, because I doubt the Reapers are so blind as to leave the Crucible construction unnoticed and unfettered for months if it is really a threat to them. 
5) If you question the Reapers' ability to do this, I'm wondering if we actually played the same games or not. 

1) So why not indoctrinate him during the 6 months before the invasion? The had 6 months to make him dream, see and think whatever they wanted.

2) Since they knew Shepard was on Earth and they have a telepathic link to him and know where he as, why did they let him escape? Why not capture him, especially since he was severely outnumbered and outgunned.

3)That's new to me. So Reapers know about the giant super weapon that connects to the citadel and did nothing to stop it? They risk us actually succeeding in building and using it just to indoctrinate one man at the end of a cycle?

4) But then again, you can't find something threatening if you don't even know it exists. Reapers have taken out everything else that's a threat early on before they become a problem. Sanctuary is one. Once the reapers were informed of this weapon's existence, they reacted.

5) I don't doubt the reapers could. I just think that in order for their plan to work, they would have needed a whole lot of information before they could pull it of like they are believed to.

[Dwailing]

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)

[Arashi08]

masster blaster wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Yes I now I like the Peace thing but if the EC goes south then we need to be ready.

Ready for what? I think we're on different wavelengths here. Getting defensive or going up in arms is not going to serve any positive purpose whatsoever. And it certainly isnt the point of this thread, to be sure. 

agreed, this thread isn't about forming an IT army or getting a bunch of supporters, or at least it shouldn't be.  I don't care so much about the IT that I will be devastated if it isn't true, just as long as we get a satisfying ending.  I happen to like IT because it offers alot of interestng information about things we didn't originally expect to find in the game and it brings alot of people together who can think critically and discuss all this information out there surrounding BioWare's upcoming plans.  if trolls want to attack this thread because IT is proven wrong in the future so what?  For me it isn't about anti-IT vs Pro-IT it is about being mature and thinking about the situation instead of just getting angry about it. 

Hope is an important thing ME fans could use right now and this thread offers it with alot if contributions.

That's the way I see it anyway, sorry for rambling on.

um you do realize I got him to put a picture of Tim saying " have a little faith" which was my goal to get on this forum.

So that was the reason for it all? well...congratz i guess lol

well I do have to admit an army of IT folks gonig to Bioware HQ that would be a lovly site. Do you think.

Getting all of them off their computers and outside? most definitely

[Arian Dynas]

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)

ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 11 juin 2012 - 12:29 .

[MegumiAzusa]

EpyonX3 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Me again. Random thought.

The child is thought to be a reaper hallucination correct? Now I know there's some debate as to whether the child is real and then becomes a reaper tool or is a reaper tool from the beginning.

My thought assumes he was a tool from the beginning.

If he was, how did the reapers know to use the child to begin with. The reapers haven't even gotten to earth, how would they have known:

1) Shepard was on Earth
2) That Shepard would escape
3) Find a super weapon that the reapers knew nothing about for countless cycles
4) Build that super weapon that the reapers never found
5) Make Shepard sympathize for them by using the child they originally planted in his head

It seems like the reapers would have had to know all of this was going to happen before getting to earth. That seems highly unlikely to me.

1) Reapers have telepathic abilities, the extent of which are unknown, but almost certainly encompass the ability to know Shepard was on Earth while they approached. 
2) What does that have to do with anything? Shepard didnt die on Earth, so it's a moot point. Are you implying the Reapers' completion of their culling of the current cycle hinges on this point?
3) You're assuming that is the case while many IT believers think otherwise, so that isnt a fair concern to expect us to address. 
4) See above. In fact, I'd say that point number 4 actually supports IT, because I doubt the Reapers are so blind as to leave the Crucible construction unnoticed and unfettered for months if it is really a threat to them. 
5) If you question the Reapers' ability to do this, I'm wondering if we actually played the same games or not. 

1) So why not indoctrinate him during the 6 months before the invasion? The had 6 months to make him dream, see and think whatever they wanted.

2) Since they knew Shepard was on Earth and they have a telepathic link to him and know where he as, why did they let him escape? Why not capture him, especially since he was severely outnumbered and outgunned.

3)That's new to me. So Reapers know about the giant super weapon that connects to the citadel and did nothing to stop it? They risk us actually succeeding in building and using it just to indoctrinate one man at the end of a cycle?

4) But then again, you can't find something threatening if you don't even know it exists. Reapers have taken out everything else that's a threat early on before they become a problem. Sanctuary is one. Once the reapers were informed of this weapon's existence, they reacted.

5) I don't doubt the reapers could. I just think that in order for their plan to work, they would have needed a whole lot of information before they could pull it of like they are believed to.

1) As said Shepard is already partly indoctrinated as evidenced by Arrival.
2) They wanted her to escape to find the Crucible plans to waste serious resources and start the Alliance/Cerberus conflict.
3) It's a trap. The Ackbar sort of trap, not the other ones that look quite cute.
4) It's a trap to funnel all in one place to crush them.
5) They've got everything they need as evidenced by thousands of Sheps out there who choose not to use destroy.

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

1) So why not indoctrinate him during the 6 months before the invasion? The had 6 months to make him dream, see and think whatever they wanted.

2) Since they knew Shepard was on Earth and they have a telepathic link to him and know where he as, why did they let him escape? Why not capture him, especially since he was severely outnumbered and outgunned.

3)That's new to me. So Reapers know about the giant super weapon that connects to the citadel and did nothing to stop it? They risk us actually succeeding in building and using it just to indoctrinate one man at the end of a cycle?

4) But then again, you can't find something threatening if you don't even know it exists. Reapers have taken out everything else that's a threat early on before they become a problem. Sanctuary is one. Once the reapers were informed of this weapon's existence, they reacted.

5) I don't doubt the reapers could. I just think that in order for their plan to work, they would have needed a whole lot of information before they could pull it of like they are believed to.

1) Why do you believe this hasnt been going on the entire time? What exactly do you think happened during Arrival? This point is starting to reek of the typical face-value thought process that Shepard is somehow immune to indoctrination, or that it happens instantly instead of being a slow, subtle process, the point of which being that we DONT KNOW it's happening. 

2) Did you miss the part in the codex about indoctrinated agents being most useful in a high ranking undercover position? They might as well just turn him into a husk if they captured him, because no one would trust him after that, which would defeat the point of indoctrinating him. 


3) The point is that many of us believe it is not an anti-Reaper superweapon at all. 

4) Practically any important political group in the galaxy knows about the Crucible in some fashion. There are indoctrinated everywhere. It would require a massive amount of "Creative liberty" to have the Reapers just fail to find out about an anti-Reaper superweapon, given such a powerful espionage and spy network.

5) I really dont think this point is going anywhere, to be honest. 

Do you hear that hum, is that just me? 

[byne]

Dwailing wrote...

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep. 

Well no wonder you think MaleShep is better. Thats like thinking the best way to die is of old age, when you havent even considered the fact that you could die in a sorority ****** massacre.

Which is incidentally the way I've wanted to die ever since Church mentioned it.

[HellishFiend]

Arian Dynas wrote...

ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.

I'm HellishFiend and I support this message. 

[Arashi08]

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)

@BleedingUranium nah he will romance Ashley,  Liara sparked that controversy with Fox news remember?  even if it isn't the same situation Hollywood will still play it safe for the movie.  plus Sheploo romanced Ash in the game trailers, so they will go as generic as possible to "tie in" with the game I'm guessing.

@Dwailing  I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.  Your movie idea was cool tho

[masster blaster]

Have any of you seen how the Bioware people at Pax acted when IT came up. They were trying not to make comment about it but the way their faces were and how most of them looked like they were trying to keep there mouths shut. I don't know what to think.

Is all of this just a game to them, or are they trying not to spoil the EC even though most of us figured the EC out.

[MegumiAzusa]

HellishFiend wrote...

4) Practically any important political group in the galaxy knows about the Crucible in some fashion. There are indoctrinated everywhere. It would require a massive amount of "Creative liberty" to have the Reapers just fail to find out about an anti-Reaper superweapon, given such a powerful espionage and spy network.

You forget they even have a direct connection to at least indoctrinated Rachni Workers if the Queen was not saved the first time.

[HellishFiend]

masster blaster wrote...

Have any of you seen how the Bioware people at Pax acted when IT came up. They were trying not to make comment about it but the way their faces were and how most of them looked like they were trying to keep there mouths shut. I don't know what to think.

Is all of this just a game to them, or are they trying not to spoil the EC even though most of us figured the EC out.

Can't do both?

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep. 

Well no wonder you think MaleShep is better. Thats like thinking the best way to die is of old age, when you havent even considered the fact that you could die in a sorority ****** massacre.

Which is incidentally the way I've wanted to die ever since Church mentioned it.

nice did church told told you that or was it Caboose.

[Arashi08]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)

ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.

I have to mention that I read this in MaleShep's voice.

[HellishFiend]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

4) Practically any important political group in the galaxy knows about the Crucible in some fashion. There are indoctrinated everywhere. It would require a massive amount of "Creative liberty" to have the Reapers just fail to find out about an anti-Reaper superweapon, given such a powerful espionage and spy network.

You forget they even have a direct connection to at least indoctrinated Rachni Workers if the Queen was not saved the first time.

I didnt forget that, it's part of the all-encompassing "indoctrinated everywhere" part of my point. 

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep. 

Well no wonder you think MaleShep is better. Thats like thinking the best way to die is of old age, when you havent even considered the fact that you could die in a sorority ****** massacre.

Which is incidentally the way I've wanted to die ever since Church mentioned it.

nice did church told told you that or was it Caboose.

First of all, I linked to the video right there, and you see Church mention it, so it was clearly Church.

Second of all, I dont think Caboose knows what a ****** even is. Or a sorority. Or a massacre.

[TJBartlemus]

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.

Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. 

Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)

Why romance Liara? If they did do a movie on Shep they would more likely romace Ashely for the reason it's easier to do (sgi or makeup makes it more hard) and people can relate more with a human. Of course though the people who did Avatar did ok with the relationship in that.

Regarding IT, I seriously hope they at least give a little info or a date tuesday. 3 months and no news. This guy is anxious.

[MaximizedAction]

byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep. 

Well no wonder you think MaleShep is better. Thats like thinking the best way to die is of old age, when you havent even considered the fact that you could die in a sorority ****** massacre.

Which is incidentally the way I've wanted to die ever since Church mentioned it.

Shepard didn't www.youtube.com/watch

EDIT: But yeah, back on topic. And for me, good night to y'all.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 11 juin 2012 - 12:39 .

[Rifneno]

byne wrote...

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.

I'm starting to think FemShep fans are worse than the Talimancers...