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OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.


Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. :crying:


Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.


I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.


Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating Posted Image

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.


I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)


Why romance Liara? If they did do a movie on Shep they would more likely romace Ashely for the reason it's easier to do (sgi or makeup makes it more hard) and people can relate more with a human. Of course though the people who did Avatar did ok with the relationship in that.

Regarding IT, I seriously hope they at least give a little info or a date tuesday. 3 months and no news. This guy is anxious. :blink:


I think if he romanced Ashley that would make leaving Kaidan on Virmire be totally lame.

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Rifneno wrote...

byne wrote...

I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.


I'm starting to think FemShep fans are worse than the Talimancers...


Uh oh.

Red alert, prepare for evasive maneuvers.

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Arashi08 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.


Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. :crying:


Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.


I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.


Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating Posted Image

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.


I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)


ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.

I have to mention that I read this in MaleShep's voice. Posted Image


Either way, enough.

And I really sound more like Coates, sans accent.

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Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.


Although I prefer Femshep, I don't think either is better than the other.

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HellishFiend wrote...

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4) Practically any important political group in the galaxy knows about the Crucible in some fashion. There are indoctrinated everywhere. It would require a massive amount of "Creative liberty" to have the Reapers just fail to find out about an anti-Reaper superweapon, given such a powerful espionage and spy network.

You forget they even have a direct connection to at least indoctrinated Rachni Workers if the Queen was not saved the first time.


I didnt forget that, it's part of the all-encompassing "indoctrinated everywhere" part of my point. :D


Well I'm sure Udina knew about it, and in turn TIM knew about it and he was indoctrinated. SO the Reapers knew they were just to lazy or didn't care. Wouldn't you be a little apathetic if you were universe champions over a thousand cycles and running? If it hasn't worked then why now? Oh wait we have Shepard....:D

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Oh, and I DO love Dwalling's idea. If anything they should go with that. Or even better do just that, and intercut Joker's backstory, maybe Hackett's backstory and a bunch of other characters, sort of what The Hobbit is going to be like.

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So far this entire page has been dedicated to maleshep vs femshep. Really people?

There isnt even a single post on this page that people can use to engage in on-topic conversation. Maybe I should come back later when you guys are finished.

edit: :ph34r:'d by TJBartlemus, but still, my point stands. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 11 juin 2012 - 12:45 .


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Arashi08 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Yes I now I like the Peace thing but if the EC goes south then we need to be ready.


Ready for what? I think we're on different wavelengths here. Getting defensive or going up in arms is not going to serve any positive purpose whatsoever. And it certainly isnt the point of this thread, to be sure. 

agreed, this thread isn't about forming an IT army or getting a bunch of supporters, or at least it shouldn't be.  I don't care so much about the IT that I will be devastated if it isn't true, just as long as we get a satisfying ending.  I happen to like IT because it offers alot of interestng information about things we didn't originally expect to find in the game and it brings alot of people together who can think critically and discuss all this information out there surrounding BioWare's upcoming plans.  if trolls want to attack this thread because IT is proven wrong in the future so what?  For me it isn't about anti-IT vs Pro-IT it is about being mature and thinking about the situation instead of just getting angry about it. 

Hope is an important thing ME fans could use right now and this thread offers it with alot if contributions.

That's the way I see it anyway, sorry for rambling on.

I'd say nearly everyone that participates in this thread wants I.T to be in EC, but this thread has never been about convincing Bioware to make sure it's in, it has always been about a "theory" based on in game clues.
Personally I see no need to convince them of anything as I believe they have their plan already laid out and have done for quite some time now, even before the announcement of ME3.
My stance will remain, if EC does not involve I.T, then lets hope it's something spectacular in it's place, because that's the only I'll continue my support of Bioware, it does not need to be I.T, it just needs to be damn good.

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What if Dragon Age ties with Mass Effect think about Dragon Age Origins:Witch Hunt and now ME-ME3 they could both have a connection of some sort.

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Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.


Well in my opinion I believe that BioWare personally prefers MaleShep cause:

1- He IS the face of Mass Effect
2- Only male Shep has gone back for EC and the Fem Shep actor has admitted in not having lines in EC.

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HellishFiend wrote...

So far this entire page has been dedicated to maleshep vs femshep. Really people?

There isnt even a single post on this page that people can use to engage in on-topic conversation. Maybe I should come back later when you guys are finished.

edit: :ph34r:'d by TJBartlemus, but still, my point stands. 


(Thick Scotish Accent) Of course Commander, it's all friendly.  (I believe that's Ken's line.)

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.


2- Only male Shep has gone back for EC and the Fem Shep actor has admitted in not having lines in EC.


Where did you hear this?  This can't be true.  I mean, this litterally CAN'T be true.  How would the EC work if FemShep isn't coming back?

Modifié par Dwailing, 11 juin 2012 - 12:48 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.


I'm HellishFiend and I support this message. 

+1, because I'm getting tired of seeing it, I play both and each have their strengths.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BleedingUranium wrote...

byne wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

also I hate the idea of there being a canon Shepard played by a celebrity.


Maybe it can be about Bruce Willis drilling a hole in Sovereign and dropping an H-bomb in it. :crying:


Well It won't be featuring Vanderloo, but they guy they DID pick didn't look too bad.


I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.


Silly Byne and your MaleShep hating Posted Image

I'd bet a lot of money it'll be: MaleShep, mostly Paragon, romances Liara, saves Rachni Queen, talks down Wrex, leaves Kaiden on Virmire, and saves the Council.


I'm STILL of the opinion that MaleShep is superior, if only because I haven't actually played FemShep.  However, I agree with Byne that a Mass Effect movie shouldn't feature Shepard (Unless they decide to do six short stories ala Halo: Legends that cover the three preservice histories and the three psychological profiles, that would be awesome.  And they could split them between FemShep and BroShep so as not to make one canon.)


ENOUGH! This argument dies here. Make its own thread if you want to attempt to solve this entirely opinion based quandrary.

I have to mention that I read this in MaleShep's voice. Posted Image


Either way, enough.

And I really sound more like Coates, sans accent.

well it was actually the "enough" part that made me think of it.

and agreed, this is all opinionated stuff anyway, no need for people to take it too personally. 

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masster blaster wrote...

What if Dragon Age ties with Mass Effect think about Dragon Age Origins:Witch Hunt and now ME-ME3 they could both have a connection of some sort.


I had an idea for an awesome fanfic where an asari ship crashlands on Thedas.  Imagine the following horror if you will: an asari broodmother pumping out new 'spawn that possess both magic and biotics.  I was so proud of myself until I remember I'm too lazy to write nowadays.

...  Anyways, Witch Hunt was the worst thing since Daikatana.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.


Well in my opinion I believe that BioWare personally prefers MaleShep cause:

1- He IS the face of Mass Effect
2- Only male Shep has gone back for EC and the Fem Shep actor has admitted in not having lines in EC.


Shut up. No, Just shut up.

Argument done, and I am not giving my opinion one way or the other to encourage you incorrigible people.

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DJBare wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Yes I now I like the Peace thing but if the EC goes south then we need to be ready.


Ready for what? I think we're on different wavelengths here. Getting defensive or going up in arms is not going to serve any positive purpose whatsoever. And it certainly isnt the point of this thread, to be sure. 

agreed, this thread isn't about forming an IT army or getting a bunch of supporters, or at least it shouldn't be.  I don't care so much about the IT that I will be devastated if it isn't true, just as long as we get a satisfying ending.  I happen to like IT because it offers alot of interestng information about things we didn't originally expect to find in the game and it brings alot of people together who can think critically and discuss all this information out there surrounding BioWare's upcoming plans.  if trolls want to attack this thread because IT is proven wrong in the future so what?  For me it isn't about anti-IT vs Pro-IT it is about being mature and thinking about the situation instead of just getting angry about it. 

Hope is an important thing ME fans could use right now and this thread offers it with alot if contributions.

That's the way I see it anyway, sorry for rambling on.

I'd say nearly everyone that participates in this thread wants I.T to be in EC, but this thread has never been about convincing Bioware to make sure it's in, it has always been about a "theory" based on in game clues.
Personally I see no need to convince them of anything as I believe they have their plan already laid out and have done for quite some time now, even before the announcement of ME3.
My stance will remain, if EC does not involve I.T, then lets hope it's something spectacular in it's place, because that's the only I'll continue my support of Bioware, it does not need to be I.T, it just needs to be damn good.


For the last time reread the last 5 post and see what I meant to do in the end and reread the last page please.
:D

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Oh, and I DO love Dwalling's idea. If anything they should go with that. Or even better do just that, and intercut Joker's backstory, maybe Hackett's backstory and a bunch of other characters, sort of what The Hobbit is going to be like.


Yeah, that would be awesome, wouldn't it?  I would definitely pay to see that.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Shut up. No, Just shut up.

Argument done, and I am not giving my opinion one way or the other to encourage you incorrigible people.


No one asked for it.

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Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.

You're right. Also, FemShep is losing because of the indecision regarding her face. How can she be canon if her face changed so drastically as if she had plastic surgery between ME2 and ME3?

EDIT: I much appreciate the change because now she looks like a real human, not a plastic doll.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 12:55 .


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Come on, people.



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Modifié par lex0r11, 11 juin 2012 - 12:53 .


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Arian Dynas wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

OK, I just want to go on record saying that each has strengths and weaknesses. I prefer MaleShep, but I acknowledge that there are MANY who think FemShep is better. And I respect your opinions, even if I don't agree with them.


Well in my opinion I believe that BioWare personally prefers MaleShep cause:

1- He IS the face of Mass Effect
2- Only male Shep has gone back for EC and the Fem Shep actor has admitted in not having lines in EC.


Shut up. No, Just shut up.

Argument done, and I am not giving my opinion one way or the other to encourage you incorrigible people.


Is this your opinion? ;) 
 

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Dwailing wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So far this entire page has been dedicated to maleshep vs femshep. Really people?

There isnt even a single post on this page that people can use to engage in on-topic conversation. Maybe I should come back later when you guys are finished.

edit: :ph34r:'d by TJBartlemus, but still, my point stands. 


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byne wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

byne wrote...


I can say with pretty high confidence that I wont see any movie that perpetuates the mistaken idea that MaleShep should be canon.

Mass Effect movies shouldnt feature Shepard at all.


www.ingame.msnbc.msn.com/technology/ingame/mass-effect-movie-wont-be-based-mass-effect-games-120565
But

Legendary goes on to say that the film will star the male Commander Shepard rather than the beloved FemShep (hardly a surprise) and that they can't say whether the movie— like the games— might become a trilogy.


So...yeaaah...


So, I looked at that article and saw this:


Likewise, someone submitted a question asking if actor Seth Green will play Joker in the movie. (Green — who starred in the "Austin Powers" movies and "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" TV series — is a fan favorite and the voice actor behind the mouthy "Mass Effect" pilot Joker.) Legendary had only a one-word answer for that casting question: "No."


Haha, well **** that movie then.


If they didn't have Seth Green, or a number of other actors I'm thinking of, then I doubt I'd bother with it. But remember, the paragraph right about that one says that it will be a new story, not something we know. But now it's being said that it'll be ME1, so Posted Image