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[Rifneno]

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Reddit never used to be the pinnacle of revolu uuuuuh credibility

As it's said it's still the same person who gave the correct infos about the last DLC.

Yep.  And look at what he said about EC.  Nothing we don't already know.  If he was making it up, wouldn't he have said something new?

[Jusseb]

The problem is that i don't see the EC without any gameplay. I also hope that the IT is true, and i'm almost confinced that they will bring that up. To many clues, and i believe it was there intention, you just can't end such a great story with how ME3 ended. There's more to it.

I just don't see the EC explaining all that **** without any gameplay. I'm Shepard, and i want to play in the story, if i'm downloading the EC just to watch a few 'clips'...well then i'm just disapointed.

Corik wrote...

In any case... If I was Casey Hudson, watching the fans still speculating months after launch... people still finding clues and everybody united to defend Bioware's integrity and capabilities... Even if Indontrination wasn't planned from start... I would change whatever I had in mind and bring IT to reality... no doubt about that...

I'm sure they know what they are doing, and I'm sure they know IT is the only way to save ME.

That doesn't mean they can't take a bad call and just bring us a face-value extended endings... but... I don't know... I can't believe they will do that... Even more with all those clues pointing towards IT being planned from start.

Modifié par Jusseb, 11 juin 2012 - 02:25 .

[Rifneno]

I'm sure there'll be gameplay. The reason they don't confirm gameplay is because it virtually confirms IT if they do. How can there possibly be gameplay for the literalist ending?

[MaximizedAction]

Corik wrote...

In any case... If I was Casey Hudson, watching the fans still speculating months after launch... people still finding clues and everybody united to defend Bioware's integrity and capabilities... Even if Indontrination wasn't planned from start... I would change whatever I had in mind and bring IT to reality... no doubt about that...

I'm sure they know what they are doing, and I'm sure they know IT is the only way to save ME.

That doesn't mean they can't take a bad call and just bring us a face-value extended endings... but... I don't know... I can't believe they will do that... Even more with all those clues pointing towards IT being planned from start.

It simply comes down to
Yes IT: A moment of glory in entertainment industry, finally uplifting video games to a respected form of art and the team never actually lied to the fans.
No IT: A game full of IP incosistencies, unfinished, unpolished and its team of developers not only lied to their fans but also shines a bad light on BioWare itself.

But we're all already aware of this.

[MaximizedAction]

Rifneno wrote...

I'm sure there'll be gameplay. The reason they don't confirm gameplay is because it virtually confirms IT if they do. How can there possibly be gameplay for the literalist ending?

"Priority Paradise: collect five sacks of berries as Joker"

[Corik]

Yeah, I'm sure there will be gameplay. And I'm sure IT will be true (and always intended). The evidence is there. We may sometime discuss some "weird things" and try to link them to IT, but there are many easy clues and evidences which don't need even discussion. There's something there.

Some cutscenes and expanded epilogues don't need so much time to make. I'm 99% sure they ran out of time to make an epic ending and they decided to take some more time while we discussed about this to complete the ending (which actually doesn't make the statement about "not changing the ending" wrong) and give us the BEST STORY EVER.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

I'm sure there'll be gameplay. The reason they don't confirm gameplay is because it virtually confirms IT if they do. How can there possibly be gameplay for the literalist ending?

"Priority Paradise: collect five sacks of berries as Joker"

Oh god, I can imagine that. Joker limping across the planet, constantly stumbling over roots and stuff, cursing. Brilliant.

[Stigweird85]

Just spent the last hour looking for a solution to my problem, looks like I'll not get to see the EC unless I'm prepared to either (a) Hack my 360 or ( Start everything from scratch and create a brand new gamertag and repurchase all content that I have unlocked on MP as well as purchase a new xbox live account.

Not a happy camper in the slightest here.

[Macross]

Can I say. If IT is true, what I'd want to see from the EC is this. Keep the ending exactly the same but at the end add a new scene where Shepard hallucinates either speaks to his whole grew or people important to him about indoctrination,raison d'etre and other sentimantal crap . Fades into reality, where Shepard either wakes up on the battlefield and a brief moment of gameplay where he fights his way back to a human outpost and all the soldier cheer that his alive or that he wakes up in a human hospital on Earth which someone saying his finally awake.

Then we can get, I don't know 4 pieces of story DLC that's pre-ending and then a piece of end game DLC that gives the true ending.

Honestly, it's enough that EC confirms IT, they can a true end game as the final piece of DLC for the ME franchise.

Modifié par Macross, 11 juin 2012 - 02:44 .

[LazyTechGuy]

Rifneno wrote...

MegumiAzusa wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Reddit never used to be the pinnacle of revolu uuuuuh credibility

As it's said it's still the same person who gave the correct infos about the last DLC.

Yep.  And look at what he said about EC.  Nothing we don't already know.  If he was making it up, wouldn't he have said something new?

It feels like this person has a source inside the MP studio but we all know that the SP content is in a different studio.  So while s/he's been spot on with MP so far, I don't think that adds credability to their SP DLC knowledge.  So either: 

• A) They made up the EC description based on already known information

or

• The EC is connected to a MP DLC, so you can image that a tiny description of the EC would be tagged to the MP content he outlined.  It would explain how he got the description but no other details.

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

That's different. It's not broken lore. In that case, they gave a sci-fi plausible explanation for why they did it. Does it follow common sense? No. But it's still sci-fi plausible, and is explained well enough to make it believable. 

That isnt the case in London. Weapons dont work the way they should, with no explanation as to why. One of the weapons doesnt even have a codex entry. Reaper Destroyers dont take as much punishment before going down as they should. There is no precedent for that. To my knowledge, this is the only time in the entire trilogy that they blatantly break their own lore without trying to tweak it first so that it works and remains sci fi plausible. 

Well we can differ on the usage of 'lore breaks' [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]  Its a minor issue, even the deal with why even old guns use thermal clips now...  Its a gameplay element, and I can live with it.

But yeah, the whole Missile issue is messed up.  Even if we just assume they are Javalins, why can they kill Destroyers so easily?  If they always could, why aren't they the main armament of every starship?  

Same deal with Cains - they magically grow in strength if you point them at a Reaper?

Weak points.

When you hit the destroyer with the cannon, you hit it right in the eye, which is where you hit the rannoch destroyer. That shot left it open to many other cannon shots all around its body. So much damage all at once is probably going to take the destroyer down or at least knock it out.

The cain does the same thing. It lands in a spot not protected by reaper armor and destroys it from inside. Also, as Hellish knows, the cain is able to move toward a target after it is fired. However, I did try to replicate it in ME3 and it went straight ahead. Maybe they changed it IDK.

 

I think your points are far weaker than mine, to be quite honest.

Oh that's not what I meant by weak points lol.

I meant weak points on the reaper.

[paxxton]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Hi!

Ohai paxxton!

Ohai Shapard, yoo are looking especially beootiful and sexey todaeh.

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART INDOCTRINATION THEORY!

Do you want a pizza?

Well you'd better, because I ALREADY ORDERED A PIZZA

Ha ha ha... what a funny story Mark.

Yeah, you can say that again.

LET'S GO EAT HUH

Please, make it sto..

Ohai, guys.

I'M FED UP WITH THIS OFFTOPIC

keep your stupid comments in your pockets!

Hi again!

Sorry, I'm really busy today. Later!

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 02:46 .

[EpyonX3]

Can you imagine Dinosaurs fighting Reapers in Space!?

[UrgentArchengel]

bigstig wrote...

Just spent the last hour looking for a solution to my problem, looks like I'll not get to see the EC unless I'm prepared to either (a) Hack my 360 or ( Start everything from scratch and create a brand new gamertag and repurchase all content that I have unlocked on MP as well as purchase a new xbox live account.

Not a happy camper in the slightest here.

Damn, the f***ing blows.  I have a similar problem.  I have to use my old xbox or redo everything.  I rather not redo nearly 6 years of gaming and a 45,000 GS.

[UrgentArchengel]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Can you imagine Dinosaurs fighting Reapers in Space!?

James would totally ride on the back of a T-Rex.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Can you imagine Dinosaurs fighting Reapers in Space!?

http://imageshack.us...6349468487.jpg/

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 11 juin 2012 - 02:48 .

[UrgentArchengel]

If the new MP maps are new locations besides London, I would expect new gameplay. And besides, would it take this long to do up a few cutscenes? I didn't think so.

[SirBob1613]

The IT is good in all but its just that a theory it didn't happen.

[Macross]

SirBob1613 wrote...

The IT is good in all but its just that a theory it didn't happen.

Okay, excellent. Now use in-game evidence to explain exactily how it's not possible (or point me to where Bioware said it's wrong).

[EpyonX3]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Can you imagine Dinosaurs fighting Reapers in Space!?

http://imageshack.us...6349468487.jpg/

Mind = Blown!

[HellishFiend]

Rifneno wrote...

That whole scene reeked of indoctrination. There's a weird screen shake going on the whole conversation. Plus, the Reaper speaks in Sovereign's voice. Granted we've only heard two Reapers speak (Sovereign and Harbinger) but they had different voices. Why does this Destroyer have the voice of the Capital Ship vanguard? Sovereign's music is even playing in the background. And while Shepard and the Reaper discuss how it is or isn't possible for organics and machines to co-exist, Tali and Legion sitting nearby don't say a word. Tali and Legion have nothing to say on that topic?

I call shenanigans.

I agree. And in addition to the points you raise, the one time you do see someone other than Shepard during this conversation, in this case Tali approaching from behind, the Camera never actually shows all 3 of them in the same shot. 

[Rifneno]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Can you imagine Dinosaurs fighting Reapers in Space!?

http://imageshack.us...6349468487.jpg/

That's a good one, but my favorite was the one where a Reaper was asking a T-Rex, "Does this unit have a soul?" and the T-Rex freaks out and screeches "Who taught you that word?!"

[Rifneno]

SirBob1613 wrote...

The IT is good in all but its just that a theory it didn't happen.

Thanks for proving my sig true.

[UrgentArchengel]

SirBob1613 wrote...

The IT is good in all but its just that a theory it didn't happen.

An open mind is a powerful thing my friend.  Anyway, thank you for at least being respectful. and not acting like one of the Troll Brigade.

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

That whole scene reeked of indoctrination. There's a weird screen shake going on the whole conversation. Plus, the Reaper speaks in Sovereign's voice. Granted we've only heard two Reapers speak (Sovereign and Harbinger) but they had different voices. Why does this Destroyer have the voice of the Capital Ship vanguard? Sovereign's music is even playing in the background. And while Shepard and the Reaper discuss how it is or isn't possible for organics and machines to co-exist, Tali and Legion sitting nearby don't say a word. Tali and Legion have nothing to say on that topic?

I call shenanigans.

I agree. And in addition to the points you raise, the one time you do see someone other than Shepard during this conversation, in this case Tali approaching from behind, the Camera never actually shows all 3 of them in the same shot. 

When you think of it, every scene in ME3 where Shepard interacts with a Reaper or something Reaper related like Starbinger, we only see Shepard interacting. Within movies, that situation would be clear within a second.
Now we only need a restaurant scene between Shepard and a Reaper and the waitress ignoring the Reaper. A classic.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 11 juin 2012 - 03:05 .