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[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

The Cain Issue:

This is the Hades Cannon:



This is the Cain Slug as it aproaches the Hades Cannon:



This is the Aftermath



They make the slug hit the weak spot and the cannon, which is attached to the destroyer's internal structures and it explodes.

Edited for grammar.

You're not really pointing out anything that we didnt already know. Plus you're calling it a slug, which it isnt, because it changes paths and homes in. Slugs dont do that. 

Additionally, I'm going to stick with my stance that it makes more sense to go with the explanation that fits existing lore rather than having to make up new lore excuses for why what we see is unprecedented. 

Dont get me wrong, I was perfectly willing to accept that it was just cinematic effect and creative liberty overriding the lore, until we started uncovering a ton of other things that are "off" about London. That makes me inclined to think this particular tidbit is part of a pattern rather than a necessary evil. 

[EpyonX3]

estebanus wrote...

That's pretty much the same as I see it.

Regardles if you're an indoctrinationist or not, you're still awesome in my books, Epyon!

[HellishFiend]

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Is a giant laser less silly than what the crucible is now though? Some swiss army knife of multi-colored impossibilities?

That's like saying a clown is less silly than a mime. Not making a very strong point... 

Giant super weapons exist in ME lore though, as is evidenced by that one planet that has a huge gash on it....

You're saying we can use a tidbit of lore from a planet description as justification for an uninspired conclusion to the series? 

Yes, it's just my opinion though. 

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. You'll never believe what just happened. I posted to a wrong thread thinking it was this one.

I'm relieved you made it back here in one piece.  

Me too but it wasn't that bad. I didn't express support for IT until I noticed I was in the other thread.

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. You'll never believe what just happened. I posted to a wrong thread thinking it was this one.

Yup, I was there!

Hey, I saw you.

[balance5050]

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

Modifié par balance5050, 11 juin 2012 - 06:51 .

[EpyonX3]

HellishFiend wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

The Cain Issue:

This is the Hades Cannon:



This is the Cain Slug as it aproaches the Hades Cannon:



This is the Aftermath



They make the slug hit the weak spot and the cannon, which is attached to the destroyer's internal structures and it explodes.

Edited for grammar.

You're not really pointing out anything that we didnt already know. Plus you're calling it a slug, which it isnt, because it changes paths and homes in. Slugs dont do that. 

Additionally, I'm going to stick with my stance that it makes more sense to go with the explanation that fits existing lore rather than having to make up new lore excuses for why what we see is unprecedented. 

Dont get me wrong, I was perfectly willing to accept that it was just cinematic effect and creative liberty overriding the lore, until we started uncovering a ton of other things that are "off" about London. That makes me inclined to think this particular tidbit is part of a pattern rather than a necessary evil. 

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

[EpyonX3]

senshi420 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

senshi420 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So yeah, how about it guys, space dragonball z anyone?

Shepard is Goku, Harbinger is Vegeta, and Crucible + Citadel is a giant Kamehameha.

Yeah, no thanks, I'll go with Reaper trap....

unless teamfourstar is doing it. then it'll be epic.

Accurate...

sovereign as nappa? "Hey harby are we there yet?"

Nine Minutes, eighteen seconds...
Nine Minutes, eighteen seconds...

[HellishFiend]

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

[HellishFiend]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

Well then we simply disagree on that. Not sure what else we can say on that subject that we havent already said. 

[paxxton]

OK, so what are we discussing today? Any official news?

[balance5050]

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

[estebanus]

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. You'll never believe what just happened. I posted to a wrong thread thinking it was this one.

Yup, I was there!

Hey, I saw you.

Damn! I need a better cardboard box to hide in!

*Sneaks down to the cellar and gets a cardboard box*

Ha! who can see me now?!

Modifié par estebanus, 11 juin 2012 - 06:57 .

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

The fact that you can even see the Cain's shot in either game bugs me.

The huge explosion comes from the fact that the slug is going 5 kilometers per second. At that speed you really shouldnt be able to see it at all.

[HellishFiend]

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

Well, flip it around then and you have your version of my take on the issue. :happy:

Simile aside, I simply think that while it being a super weapon makes more sense than what we see, it still makes far less sense than other possibilities we have come up with. 

[HellishFiend]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

The fact that you can even see the Cain's shot in either game bugs me.

The huge explosion comes from the fact that the slug is going 5 kilometers per second. At that speed you really shouldnt be able to see it at all.

I agree. The explosion should be instant, with no visible projectile of any sort. 

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

The fact that you can even see the Cain's shot in either game bugs me.

The huge explosion comes from the fact that the slug is going 5 kilometers per second. At that speed you really shouldnt be able to see it at all.

Right but the Cain's slug has always been visible. That's a slip up on Bioware's part to be honest.

[balance5050]

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

Well, flip it around then and you have your version of my take on the issue. :happy:

Simile aside, I simply think that while it being a super weapon makes more sense than what we see, it still makes far less sense than other possibilities we have come up with. 

Flipped and agreed, giant super weapon is extremely silly but at least plausible. Reaper trap makes the most sense to me as well...

[byne]

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

I dont know, man, mimes are pretty silly.

[EpyonX3]

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

I dont know, man, mimes are pretty silly.

Speaking of Rooster Teeth...IT'S MONDAY!

[paxxton]

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

LOL. You'll never believe what just happened. I posted to a wrong thread thinking it was this one.

Yup, I was there!

Hey, I saw you.

Damn! I need a better cardboard box to hide in!

*Sneaks down to the cellar and gets a cardboard box*

Ha! who can see me now?!

Take example from Snake! I can still see you and you won't hide in that thread cause it's just been locked down.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 07:00 .

[byne]

EpyonX3 wrote...

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

I dont know, man, mimes are pretty silly.

Speaking of Rooster Teeth...IT'S MONDAY!

I know!

Although, I miss the old days when being a sponsor meant I got the new episodes on Friday and everyone else got them on Monday.

I'm not sure if those are the correct days, to be honest, I just know I got new episodes a few days early instead of two hours early.

[ivenoidea]

HellishFiend wrote...

byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Well I've seen the cain change direction even if it was small and rare. I haven't seen most of what's off about London but I just don't think this qualifies as one of those.

The fact that you can even see the Cain's shot in either game bugs me.

The huge explosion comes from the fact that the slug is going 5 kilometers per second. At that speed you really shouldnt be able to see it at all.

I agree. The explosion should be instant, with no visible projectile of any sort. 

5km PER SECOND? Do you realize that the force of it launching would smash shepard to pieces?

[balance5050]

byne wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Giant super weapons are in the ME lore Hellish, evidenced by that one planet with the huge gash. I just need you to admit that it's less silly than what the crucible is at face value....

I already did admit that with the "clown is less silly than a mime" bit. 

Well I didn't get that because I think that clowns are MORE silly. Even the codex assumed that it was going to be a giant space cannon.

I dont know, man, mimes are pretty silly.

LOL! Ok ok, mimes are very silly....

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

Take example from Snake! I can still see you and you won't hide in that thread cause it's just been locked down.

Way to go guys... now we're gonna be accused of launching thread invasions...