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[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

[masster blaster]

D.Sharrah wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Reposted due to being lost in the thread...

D.Sharrah wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

Byne - Any thoughts on updating the OP? It would be cool if there were links for the following...

Memorial Wall - IT Memorial Wall for all those that have contributed
Arian's Marketing Theory
Arian's Script
Prettz gun change video when finished

Anyone else think of anything?

Edited for clarification of Memorial Wall.  Reposted to make sure that Byne sees it and to re-emphasize the bolded question at the bottom.

Reposted and...

Arian Dynas wrote...

We need a link to Salien Archer's EMS examination in the OP.

and the books, novals, and comics though I don't really think they will help but it's worth tring.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

I ment the Normandy and the small fleet we saw in the Take back Earth Trailer.

That is Fighters with a single Friagte (the Normandy) they cannot hit the Reapers blind spot in the way you suggest as the Fighters as well as their weapons are vulnerable to the GARDIAN system which is situated all aroudn the Reapers body, not just the front (dont come saying we dont know that because the Reapers are seriusly stupid if they dont cover their abcks with GARDIAN)

but they don't since turinan forces got into the Reapers and blow them to kingdom come.

The turians got inside a Reaper which ahd landed on the ground and opened its chasis, the GARDIAN sysetm is menat for fighters and missiles not ground troops walking inyour fornt door,

In space the only tiem you will get into a reapers is once ist kinetic barriers are down and by taht time the reaper is almost as good as dead.

[byne]

D.Sharrah wrote...

Reposted and...

Arian Dynas wrote...

We need a link to Salien Archer's EMS examination in the OP.

Both of you guys seem to agree it needs to be in the OP, but neither of you actually bothered providing a link.

[Ytook]

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...

*snip*

Ya but if Shepard wakes up who would save Shepard, and for one is bleeding the **** out in a huge clusters of ruble.

One of your companions? Anderson? Anyone on London really. Surely that's a question of the IT in general?

[masster blaster]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

I ment EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY NOT JUST EARTH ALONE.

Plus if we managed to get everyone to work together without them trying to kill eachother during ME3 then it's perfect.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

DJBare wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

balance5050 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

Yeaaahhh.... I said "think outside the box....."

Then how about you do it for that battle.

Use the layout from my last post along with this:

You are attacking the Reaper forces head on your only hope and every piece of faith placed in your forces ability to carve a safe path for the Crucible to reach the Citadel that is all that matters according to everything we are told.

Now tell me what outside of the box thinking which can turn it around.

Is that the only conventional plan you can come up with?, from your posts it appears so, there are other methods of conventional warfare that do not require direct confrontation, as I stated earlier, every chain has it's weak link, and it's that you look for, there is no way we could win in a direct confrontation, but there maybe other ways, I can think of at least one other way, can you?

I was not coming up with a way I was stating what we see happening at Earth <_<

The united fleet attacks the Reaper fleet head on in a desperate assult to break through to the Citadel and cover the Crucible.

That is what happens. No fancy tactics or unormal strategies, just straight on battle quickly turning into a knife fight.

It is conventional direct battle and without  intervnetion from something we...will...lose.

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 11 juin 2012 - 08:17 .

[HellishFiend]

 

Ytook wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...

*snip*

Ya but if Shepard wakes up who would save Shepard, and for one is bleeding the **** out in a huge clusters of ruble.

One of your companions? Anderson? Anyone on London really. Surely that's a question of the IT in general?

 

Since we no longer have a consensus on when exactly Shepard is knocked out and the hallucination begins, that is a difficult topic to address.

Modifié par HellishFiend, 11 juin 2012 - 08:14 .

[masster blaster]

Ytook wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...

*snip*

Ya but if Shepard wakes up who would save Shepard, and for one is bleeding the **** out in a huge clusters of ruble.

One of your companions? Anderson? Anyone on London really. Surely that's a question of the IT in general?

Yes but will they save Shepard in time, or will Shepard die after the War is over with all the Blood he, or she lost?
That's what's bothering me once Shepard wakes up.

Modifié par masster blaster, 11 juin 2012 - 08:16 .

[Ytook]

HellishFiend wrote...

 

Ytook wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...

*snip*

Ya but if Shepard wakes up who would save Shepard, and for one is bleeding the **** out in a huge clusters of ruble.

One of your companions? Anderson? Anyone on London really. Surely that's a question of the IT in general?

 

Since we no longer have a consensus on when exactly Shepard is knocked out and the hallucination begins, that is a difficult topic to address.

99% of us think the breath scene takes place in London though right? 

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

I ment EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY NOT JUST EARTH ALONE.

Plus if we managed to get everyone to work together without them trying to kill eachother during ME3 then it's perfect.

It is everyone in the galaxy.

Pre-war Systems Allaince, aka the humans, aka Earth had 9 Dreadnoughts.

The just over 200 dreadnought number is every single race combined, Turians, Volus, Salarians, Geth, Quarians, Asari, Batarian and then Humans, all at the peak of their strength.

But that number is not accurate by the time we hit earth due to the war having cost the races Dreadnoughts and other ships.

[byne]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

I ment EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY NOT JUST EARTH ALONE.

Plus if we managed to get everyone to work together without them trying to kill eachother during ME3 then it's perfect.

It is everyone in the galaxy.

Pre-war Systems Allaince, aka the humans, aka Earth had 9 Dreadnoughts.

The just over 200 dreadnought number is every single race combined, Turians, Volus, Salarians, Geth, Quarians, Asari, Batarian and then Humans, all at the peak of their strength.

But that number is not accurate by the time we hit earth due to the war having cost the races Dreadnoughts and other ships.

Its too bad we spent all of our resources on the Crucible instead of on dreadnoughts

[paxxton]

"An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy." This clearly states that the EC is going to show what happened post-breath scene. Extended epilogue may mean anything from cutscenes to gameplay, from 5 minutes to several hours.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 08:19 .

[masster blaster]

Ytook wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 

Ytook wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...

*snip*

Ya but if Shepard wakes up who would save Shepard, and for one is bleeding the **** out in a huge clusters of ruble.

One of your companions? Anderson? Anyone on London really. Surely that's a question of the IT in general?

 

Since we no longer have a consensus on when exactly Shepard is knocked out and the hallucination begins, that is a difficult topic to address.

99% of us think the breath scene takes place in London though right? 

Yes it does because there is no way Shepard can survive space rentruy from obit because we seen it happend in ME2. Also even with the so called ports the citadle has in case it goes byebye Shepard had no time to get into one of them so there.

[Steelcan]

Shepards also seen in London rubble not crucible wreckage

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

I ment EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY NOT JUST EARTH ALONE.

Plus if we managed to get everyone to work together without them trying to kill eachother during ME3 then it's perfect.

It is everyone in the galaxy.

Pre-war Systems Allaince, aka the humans, aka Earth had 9 Dreadnoughts.

The just over 200 dreadnought number is every single race combined, Turians, Volus, Salarians, Geth, Quarians, Asari, Batarian and then Humans, all at the peak of their strength.

But that number is not accurate by the time we hit earth due to the war having cost the races Dreadnoughts and other ships.

Its too bad we spent all of our resources on the Crucible instead of on dreadnoughts

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.

[MaximizedAction]

paxxton wrote...

"An expanded ending for Mass Effect 3. Additional scenes and an extended epilogue reveal the impact of Shepard's choices on the future of the galaxy." This clearly states that the EC is going to show what happened post-breath scene. Extended epilogue may mean anything from cutscenes to gameplay, from 5 minutes to several hours.

All I know is, my gut says maybe.

[Ytook]

masster blaster wrote...

Ytook wrote...
99% of us think the breath scene takes place in London though right? 

Yes it does because there is no way Shepard can survive space rentruy from obit because we seen it happend in ME2. Also even with the so called ports the citadle has in case it goes byebye Shepard had no time to get into one of them so there.

Then it's quite concievabke that Shepard would be rescued if s/he is in London.

[byne]

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.

No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...


They call together every fleet before the battel begins, there is nothing indicating there are more to get anywhere. Even the Volus must be there considering they are war assets, war asets we must assume are used in that final fleet battle. Considering their allaince with the Turians their forces probably count under the Turian fleet.

Um If everyone listened to Shepard about the Reapers are coming, then yes I can see what they are saying, and it would be pricles to see Harbys face when it see all of the galaxys armys, and fleets at Earth waiting for them.

That would have been priceless, but even then conventional victory would have been an impossibility if you ask me.

If we had met the Reapers out the gate we would have had just over 200 Dreadnoughts. Not nearly enough to match the Sovereign class reapers, not nearly enough.

And the war almost only went downhill up until the battle of Earth.

I ment EVERYONE IN THE GALAXY NOT JUST EARTH ALONE.

Plus if we managed to get everyone to work together without them trying to kill eachother during ME3 then it's perfect.

It is everyone in the galaxy.

Pre-war Systems Allaince, aka the humans, aka Earth had 9 Dreadnoughts.

The just over 200 dreadnought number is every single race combined, Turians, Volus, Salarians, Geth, Quarians, Asari, Batarian and then Humans, all at the peak of their strength.

But that number is not accurate by the time we hit earth due to the war having cost the races Dreadnoughts and other ships.

Its too bad we spent all of our resources on the Crucible instead of on dreadnoughts

Ya you would think the Treaty they sined would go out the window for howmany dreadnoughts your suppost to have.
Also yes we could have, or we could have made a geth dreadnought like the one we has to take down ( though wish we could have kept it) but mae many more, or used what we had to make many fighters, or dreadnoughts.

[balance5050]

I apologize for the off-topic post, but update 1.6 for Skyrim is amazing.... I can final'y use my bow while riding a horse like civilized person, it took 6 updates just so I can do what Link did on the N64.

Also, bow and arrow kill cams look beautiful.

[DJBare]

byne wrote...

Its too bad we spent all of our resources on the Crucible instead of on dreadnoughts

I think you might have been a little too subtle with that message

[Earthborn_Shepard]

balance5050 wrote...

I apologize for the off-topic post, but update 1.6 for Skyrim is amazing.... I can final'y use my bow while riding a horse like civilized person, it took 6 updates just so I can do what Link did on the N64.

Also, bow and arrow kill cams look beautiful.

wat

I noticed it downloaded something today, but... bow on a horse? Wow
gotta check that now

and I love the new onehanded finishing move, where you twist your knife for a minute before killing the guy

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 11 juin 2012 - 08:27 .

[masster blaster]

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.

No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.

Um they did if you replay the Quarien Mission and talk to Taile and the Admerals they said they converted them to dreadnoughts.

sorry misspelled her name.

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.

Uhm I think you might be mistaking Cruisers or Carriers with Dreadnoughts.

Also the Quarians converted their 3 liveships to something which would be reminiscient of a Dreadnought (in firepower, its armor is horrible compared to a real Dreadnought). They dident convert their entire fleet to Dreadnoughts because very few of their ships fits into the size or firepower necesary to be a Dreadnought and even then their quick refitting of Civilian ships would ahrdly count as dreadnought as it is not optimized for battle.

The offical numbers of Dreadnoughts for the Council races are as follows:

By 2186 the count was 39 turian, 20 asari, 16 salarian, and 9 human. 84 all in all.