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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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Raistlin Majare 1992

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Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.


No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.


Um they did if you replay the Quarien Mission and talk to Taile and the Admerals they said they converted them to dreadnoughts.

sorry misspelled her name.:unsure:


They converted their liveships to Dreadnoughts. They have 3 of those and it is the big ones with an orb like structure near one end seen from ME2 and 3.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

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I apologize for the off-topic post, but update 1.6 for Skyrim is amazing.... I can final'y use my bow while riding a horse like civilized person, it took 6 updates just so I can do what Link did on the N64.

Also, bow and arrow kill cams look beautiful.


wat

I noticed it downloaded something today, but... bow on a horse? Wow
gotta check that now

and I love the new onehanded finishing move, where you twist your knife for a minute before killing the guy


I knew mounted combat was coming but bows on horseback was a nice surprise, you can still use your dead eye to slow down time and zoom in, looks amazing.....

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Shepard is such a jerk.

While Coates is here saving his life, He's just standing there in a relaxed pose "supervising."

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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.


No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.


Um they did if you replay the Quarien Mission and talk to Taile and the Admerals they said they converted them to dreadnoughts.

sorry misspelled her name.:unsure:


No, they only put huge guns on the Liveships, giving them dreadnought firepower, but not dreadnought defense.

It isnt possible to convert a small ship into a dreadnought.

Thats like saying you can turn a rowboat into an aircraft carrier if you just make a few tweaks.

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I dont remember nuclear weapons being discussed in the story. Udina briefly mentioned that the reapers attacked silos but surely the human and turian fleets would still have them. They would even the playing field out a bit, and hit and run attacks with numerous dreadnoughts at reaper forces that are fighting in aller theatres would evvanyually take their toll. 50 dreadnoughts against 3 reaper capital ships would end with few if any dreadnoughts destroyed.                               


Ps sorry for the bad grammar my keyboard is broken

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.


Uhm I think you might be mistaking Cruisers or Carriers with Dreadnoughts.

Also the Quarians converted their 3 liveships to something which would be reminiscient of a Dreadnought (in firepower, its armor is horrible compared to a real Dreadnought). They dident convert their entire fleet to Dreadnoughts because very few of their ships fits into the size or firepower necesary to be a Dreadnought and even then their quick refitting of Civilian ships would ahrdly count as dreadnought as it is not optimized for battle.

The offical numbers of Dreadnoughts for the Council races are as follows:

By 2186 the count was 39 turian, 20 asari, 16 salarian, and 9 human. 84 all in all.


Then why do i see more in the fleets arrive at Earth, and if you don't belive me then watch the fleets arrive again.



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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.


No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.


Um they did if you replay the Quarien Mission and talk to Taile and the Admerals they said they converted them to dreadnoughts.

sorry misspelled her name.:unsure:


No, they only put huge guns on the Liveships, giving them dreadnought firepower, but not dreadnought defense.

It isnt possible to convert a small ship into a dreadnought.

Thats like saying you can turn a rowboat into an aircraft carrier if you just make a few tweaks.


That's what I meant the firepower of a dreadnought. sorry.

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Shepard is such a jerk.

While Coates is here saving his life, He's just standing there in a relaxed pose "supervising."

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snip


I hope the EC gives Coates a purpose other than "guy who tells everyone to fall back to the buildings when it matters most", Shepard just got done with his "we fight or we die" speech to....

Modifié par balance5050, 11 juin 2012 - 08:37 .


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masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Um I saw more dreadnoughts when we went back to earth with the Alliance alone, and how do you know the right number, because the quariens converted all of there shipes to dreadnoughts, and that is as much as the Turian fleet has.


No they didnt. Thats not even possible.

The strength from a dreadnought comes from the fact that the main gun runs most of the length of the ship and is around a kilometer long.

You can't just 'convert' a small ship into a dreadnought.


Um they did if you replay the Quarien Mission and talk to Taile and the Admerals they said they converted them to dreadnoughts.

sorry misspelled her name.:unsure:


No, they only put huge guns on the Liveships, giving them dreadnought firepower, but not dreadnought defense.

It isnt possible to convert a small ship into a dreadnought.

Thats like saying you can turn a rowboat into an aircraft carrier if you just make a few tweaks.


That's what I meant the firepower of a dreadnought. sorry.


That alone can do damage to the Reapers, and why they coudl standa chance against the geth in battle.

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balance5050 wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard is such a jerk.

While Coates is here saving his life, He's just standing there in a relaxed pose "supervising."

snip

snip


I hope the EC gives Coates a purpose other than "guy who tells everyone to fall back to the buildings when it matters most".

Ya but we will see won't we.

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Then why do i see more in the fleets arrive at Earth, and if you don't belive me then watch the fleets arrive again.


I am guessing you mean this:

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That is a Cruiser, not a Dreadnought.

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That's what I meant the firepower of a dreadnought. sorry.


That alone can do damage to the Reapers, and why they coudl standa chance against the geth in battle.


I dont see how three ships with dreadnought firepower helps them stand a chance in battle with the geth.

The Geth war asset says the geth built almost as many dreadnoughts as the turians, and the turians have 39 dreadnoughts.

So, the geth have 30+ dreadnoughts (actual dreadnoughts, with dreadnought class kinetic barriers), whereas the quarians have 3 liveships with dreadnought class firepower, but civilian class kinetic barriers. The geth would win that easily.

Plus, 3 fully blown dreadnoughts can barely take down a single Reaper, I doubt the quarian liveships are gonna do anything at all to the Reapers.

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And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Then why do i see more in the fleets arrive at Earth, and if you don't belive me then watch the fleets arrive again.


I am guessing you mean this:

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That is a Cruiser, not a Dreadnought.



No and why is that a picture of the battle at the citadle. If you you want to cinvice me then please show me the fleets arrivle at earth picture.

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masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Then why do i see more in the fleets arrive at Earth, and if you don't belive me then watch the fleets arrive again.


I am guessing you mean this:

*snip*

That is a Cruiser, not a Dreadnought.



No and why is that a picture of the battle at the citadle. If you you want to cinvice me then please show me the fleets arrivle at earth picture.


No. You're the one who claims to see hundreds of dreadnoughts where everyone else sees like two or three.

The burden of proof is on you. You are the one who should provide us with a picture of all these dreadnoughts you claim are there.

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And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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Wow, this is the flycam of that scene? It's beautiful!
Lazy BioWare my ass.

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Okay this is gonna be a bit of a different post.

I have noticed that lately I have been coming in here and what i mostly do is shoot at Theories posted and i hope people arent getting annoyed by that. I am not saying any of your theories are bad (though I will say some a better than others) but I just see holes in alot of theories and is compelled to point them out. I can also get pretty worked up while replying so I hope I havent insulted anyone.

I am not saying my own theories are any better as you clearly have been discussing the Citadel Accelerator Cannon alot as well and i have replied.

I...well i just dont want to be the guy who simply assaults other theories, just because i dont agree. I dont take shots at a theory unless i really percieve a plothole or problem with it and sadly, lately there has been alot of that.

I hope you are okay with that, i just feel i have done it alot lately :unsure:

Gonna go to bed now though, happy theorizing until tomorrow.

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And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

*snip*


Epyon, can any scene be fly-cammed?

Cause if you're doing fly-cam stuff at the moment, I have a request:

Fly-cam the moment right where Shepard wakes up from the dream after Tuchanka. The one where it seems like she isnt even asleep and is just sitting at the coffee table.

I've had people say she's clearly sitting at the end of her bed, but it seems more like she's sitting at the table to me. It'd be nice to have definitive proof one way or another.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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Wow, this is the flycam of that scene? It's beautiful!
Lazy BioWare my ass.


It all goes away once you board the ship of course. Yeah I'm actually getting into the Flycam Photography.

I'll be posting some random shots here and there.

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byne wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Then why do i see more in the fleets arrive at Earth, and if you don't belive me then watch the fleets arrive again.


I am guessing you mean this:

*snip*

That is a Cruiser, not a Dreadnought.



No and why is that a picture of the battle at the citadle. If you you want to cinvice me then please show me the fleets arrivle at earth picture.


No. You're the one who claims to see hundreds of dreadnoughts where everyone else sees like two or three.

The burden of proof is on you. You are the one who should provide us with a picture of all these dreadnoughts you claim are there.


I say watch it on you tube when the fleets arrive but I dount care about it any more, let's get back on topic before Chris shows up okay.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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What is this? A tunnel?

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

*snip*


Epyon, can any scene be fly-cammed?

Cause if you're doing fly-cam stuff at the moment, I have a request:

Fly-cam the moment right where Shepard wakes up from the dream after Tuchanka. The one where it seems like she isnt even asleep and is just sitting at the coffee table.

I've had people say she's clearly sitting at the end of her bed, but it seems more like she's sitting at the table to me. It'd be nice to have definitive proof one way or another.


THIS, I also want to know whether he's on the bed or at the coffee table.

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byne wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

*snip*


Epyon, can any scene be fly-cammed?

Cause if you're doing fly-cam stuff at the moment, I have a request:

Fly-cam the moment right where Shepard wakes up from the dream after Tuchanka. The one where it seems like she isnt even asleep and is just sitting at the coffee table.

I've had people say she's clearly sitting at the end of her bed, but it seems more like she's sitting at the table to me. It'd be nice to have definitive proof one way or another.


Might take me a bit I don't if I have a save there. I'll let you know.

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paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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What is this? A tunnel?


That's the Docking tube that you walk through.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

Posted Image


Wow, this is the flycam of that scene? It's beautiful!
Lazy BioWare my ass.


It all goes away once you board the ship of course. Yeah I'm actually getting into the Flycam Photography.

I'll be posting some random shots here and there.


And yet, you STILL don't think that Bioware was hinting with all those small details that something else was going on in the ending. :huh:  You know, I don't get you.

Modifié par Dwailing, 11 juin 2012 - 08:54 .