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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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byne

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The top comment on this video displeases me.

No one should be allowed to just spout lies at Arian like that and get top comment.

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Oops, my mistake, carry on...

Modifié par DJBare, 11 juin 2012 - 08:58 .


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@EpyonX3
Lazy request, but would it be possible for you to make that shot only in a higher resolution, say typical desktop background resolution like 1920x...?

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EpyonX3 wrote...

paxxton wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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What is this? A tunnel?


That's the Docking tube that you walk through.

This is the magic of 3D packages like 3dsmax. +DirectX Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 08:59 .


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There was a mistake here. Its gone now.

Modifié par byne, 11 juin 2012 - 08:59 .


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Edit your post please Byne, I realized my mistake.

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DJBare wrote...

Edit your post please Byne, I realized my mistake.


Sure thing

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I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!

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DJBare wrote...

Edit your post please Byne, I realized my mistake.

Posted Image OMG! DJBare made a mistake?

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paxxton wrote...

DJBare wrote...

Edit your post please Byne, I realized my mistake.

Posted Image OMG! DJBare made a mistake?


Of course not, dont be silly.

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byne wrote...

There was a mistake here. Its gone now.

Thanks byne, I had another senile moment, they don't happen often, just once a day last count.

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estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!

If anything, the leak enforces hope that there is going to be post-breath scene content in the EC.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 09:06 .


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balance5050 wrote...

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He did :)

Also he said, he didn't put any faith in the Crucible in the Prothean Cicle...he rather trusted his weapons, meaning Javik believed a conventinal victory could have been possible.

In his cicle this ultimately failed due to the lack of diversity among the Protheans...but diversity is something this Cicle surely has.


I think his (Javic's) raw emotion helped him to fight indoctrination, no?

I believe they hint at his raw emotions at least playing a part in his survival...which goes hand-in-hand with NOT being indoctrinated of course...so yeah :)

Another interesting fact about Javik are his similarities to Shepard. On several occasions during the game, it is stated that they have a lot in common. So Javik is the Shepard of the Prothean Cycle so to speak.

So the fact that he, someone who didn't believe in some magic-save-the-day-superweapon, is the ONLY Prothean left might be a hint that the Shepard shouldn't put all his faith in the Crucible, but in himself instead.

I still think there is a possibility that the Crucible is in fact a Reaper-Device. I actually thought about it as some sort of "fail save" for the Reapers: should a cycle ever be strong enough to finish it, then this cycle has proven to be an actuall threat to the Reapers - so the Reapers let them destroy/indoctrinate themselves by using the Crucible.

We know that self-preservation is one of the Reapers' key motives, so it isn't that far fetched, that they have an emergency plan in case a cycle should get too dangerous. And having a final battle sounds pretty dangerous to me, as I don't believe many other cycles had even the chance to rally all the fleets. Remember, normally the Reapers would launch a surprise(!) attack from the Citadel, immediately crippling all ways of communication and cutting off Mass Relay travel.

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estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!


They're just desparate.  They know they can't defeat us on an intellectual level, so they just try to intimidate us by saying that our theory is crap and making wildly exagerated claims about very ambiguously worded descriptions.

Modifié par Dwailing, 11 juin 2012 - 09:07 .


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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!

If anything, the leak enforces hope that there is going to be post-breath scene content in the EC.



See my post I wrote there. Why would they reveal the indoctrination at the description of the DLC? That's a huge plotpoint!
It would be just like saying on the description of the overlord DLC: "Find out what happens to David Archer after he communicates with he Geth consensus!"

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Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!


They're just desparate.  They know they can't defeat us on an intellectual level, so they just try to intimidate us by saying that our theory is crap and making wildly exagerated claims about very ambiguously worded descriptions.


Reminds me of the bullies back in school. Ew...

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!


They're just desparate.  They know they can't defeat us on an intellectual level, so they just try to intimidate us by saying that our theory is crap and making wildly exagerated claims about very ambiguously worded descriptions.


Reminds me of the bullies back in school. Ew...


The bullies at my school were pretty lame.

They thought they were so clever for figuring out two things:

1: My first name (Clinton) is the same as the last name of Bill Clinton

2: If you remove the n from Clint it becomes a dirty word.

They were pretty amusing in their ineptitude though.

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Shepard was sitting on a chair:

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Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard was sitting on a chair:

*snip*

Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.


So Shep is sitting at a chair!

Seems an odd place to have a dream.

Also, am I the only one who hates the leather jacket? Its a good thing I got the collector's edition, because without the hoodie I'd hate every single bit of casual wear.

Modifié par byne, 11 juin 2012 - 09:17 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

@EpyonX3
Lazy request, but would it be possible for you to make that shot only in a higher resolution, say typical desktop background resolution like 1920x...?


I make them in 1920X1200. Photobucket makes them smaller for some reason.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard was sitting on a chair:

Posted Image

Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.


O.m.g     a floating datapad!


Jk, i know why its important...

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EpyonX3 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

@EpyonX3
Lazy request, but would it be possible for you to make that shot only in a higher resolution, say typical desktop background resolution like 1920x...?


I make them in 1920X1200. Photobucket makes them smaller for some reason.


Dropbox? 

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

I don't gt how this leak from reddit about the "earth" and "extended cut" proves anything. It hasn't even been confirmed!
People are again saying how this debunks the IT while there is no difference to what they said back in april!

I mean, take a look at this thrad:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12523105/5

I still don't get it! And they're saying we're grasping at straws!

If anything, the leak enforces hope that there is going to be post-breath scene content in the EC.



See my post I wrote there. Why would they reveal the indoctrination at the description of the DLC? That's a huge plotpoint!
It would be just like saying on the description of the overlord DLC: "Find out what happens to David Archer after he communicates with he Geth consensus!"

I agree with this:

In another thread estebanus wrote...

If they would describe the DLC as "And find out what happens when Shepard either gives in or breaks free of indoctrination!" on the description, it would reveal a huge plotpoint.

Also, notice the use of phrases like "extended epilogue", "impact [...] on the future". Extended epilogue can cover a wide range of features (cutscenes, puzzles, gameplay, dialogue, epilepsy). The future is obviosly after the breath scene so we can assume we are going to see what's next for the Galaxy.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 09:21 .


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Dwailing wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

And this is why I like Bioware. They went through all the trouble to design this stuff even though we might not ever see it.

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Wow, this is the flycam of that scene? It's beautiful!
Lazy BioWare my ass.


It all goes away once you board the ship of course. Yeah I'm actually getting into the Flycam Photography.

I'll be posting some random shots here and there.


And yet, you STILL don't think that Bioware was hinting with all those small details that something else was going on in the ending. :huh:  You know, I don't get you.


The thing is what you see as a hint, most of the times I see as a glitch. But that in no way means that bioware is lazy or sucks at they're job.

Again there are some compelling "hints" like the husk eyes at the end that I can't argue with. But they're far and few in between. At least to me.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

@EpyonX3
Lazy request, but would it be possible for you to make that shot only in a higher resolution, say typical desktop background resolution like 1920x...?


I make them in 1920X1200. Photobucket makes them smaller for some reason.


Dropbox? 


Can't get it tow work right. I'll give it another shot unless someone knows exactly how to do it.