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aaalright it's bed time

and now there's a party outside
great
just great

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paxxton wrote...

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.

Deus Ex: HR actually run decently on my 5-year-old PC so it was the best. Period. Posted Image
 
I absolutely loved the story. I loved the combat and stealth system. Those killing cutscenes looked freaking awesome. And crawling behind desks with FEMA soldiers scanning the area in Vancouver was a one in its kind experience.


Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.

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Dwailing wrote...

Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.


I remember a german game magazine writing that in some ways it was very similar to Mass Effect. So, is it?

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.

Deus Ex: HR actually run decently on my 5-year-old PC so it was the best. Period. Posted Image
 
I absolutely loved the story. I loved the combat and stealth system. Those killing cutscenes looked freaking awesome. And crawling behind desks with FEMA soldiers scanning the area in Vancouver was a one in its kind experience.


Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.

Yeah, I haven't finished it. I really should. It doesn't stand a chance in comparison with DX: HR though.

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.


I found deus ex's realistic and engaging story to be slightly better than batmans.

However batman has better gameplay and more puzzles.

I dunno i still like deus a tiny bit better. both still amazing games.


Like I said, last year was a GREAT year for games.  Almost every major release succeeded at what it was trying to do.  And for me, Arkham City was the best.  For others, it might have been DE: HR, Portal 2, BF3, Skyrim, or any number of other games (My favorite shooter from 2011 was actually Crysis 2, although it could have something to do with how I never played BF3.)

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llbountyhunter wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.


I found deus ex's realistic and engaging story to be slightly better than batmans.

However batman has better gameplay and more puzzles.

I dunno i still like deus a tiny bit better. both still amazing games.



Does anyone remember the moment when you first saw Jensen´s appartment? That was awesome.

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EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard was sitting on a chair:

Posted Image

Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.


Shepard "waking up" at the table reminds me of this scene from Blade Runner The Final Cut (spoiler alert) www.youtube.com/watch

Those who are familiar with the movie should know the implications of this (I don't want to spoiler it for others unless you want me too)

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.

Deus Ex: HR actually run decently on my 5-year-old PC so it was the best. Period. Posted Image
 
I absolutely loved the story. I loved the combat and stealth system. Those killing cutscenes looked freaking awesome. And crawling behind desks with FEMA soldiers scanning the area in Vancouver was a one in its kind experience.


Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.

Yeah, I haven't finished it. I really should. It doesn't stand a chance in comparison with DX: HR though.


I don't claim that it's anywhere near DX: HR.  I just think it's a fun game, if you can look past the slightly clunky gunplay and the myriad of bugs and glitches (Like I said, it's made by Obsidian.  If you don't expect bugs and glitches from one of their games, you're definitely going to be disappointed.).

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paxxton wrote...

I envy those who got the hoodie in the CE.


I don't have CE but have the hoodie:whistle:  (only possible on PC version )

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MaximizedAction wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.


I remember a german game magazine writing that in some ways it was very similar to Mass Effect. So, is it?


It's not as good looking or polished as Mass Effect, and the gameplay is clunkier, but in some ways the dialogue, or at least the dialogue trees, is/are actually deeper, and the decisions can have major effects on the way the game progresses.

Modifié par Dwailing, 11 juin 2012 - 10:18 .


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Andromidius wrote...

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If IT is not proven by the EC, I'm willing to bet IT-believers will start saying that the EC was just an extended indoctrination attempt.


And I'm pretty sure if it is proven all the anti-IT believers will start howling with rage.

Though considering most of them already are, I don't see a downside.

Generalisations are fun!


LOL

Oh my god. When the EC comes out and disproves the IT, reading back on this thread will be HILARIOUS.

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Wow, Seival really is retarded, isn't it?

(I'm speaking about the creator of the "Normandy Escape" support thread, the "control ending" support thread, the "crucible" support thread, and the "stargazer" support thread.)

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prettz wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I envy those who got the hoodie in the CE.


I don't have CE but have the hoodie:whistle:  (only possible on PC version )


I have PC version! How do I get this hoodie?

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bencew wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard was sitting on a chair:

Posted Image

Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.


Shepard "waking up" at the table reminds me of this scene from Blade Runner The Final Cut (spoiler alert) www.youtube.com/watch

Those who are familiar with the movie should know the implications of this (I don't want to spoiler it for others unless you want me too)


By god, you're right. At least, the forrest's there. And yes, implications...interesting.

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Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.

Deus Ex: HR actually run decently on my 5-year-old PC so it was the best. Period. Posted Image
 
I absolutely loved the story. I loved the combat and stealth system. Those killing cutscenes looked freaking awesome. And crawling behind desks with FEMA soldiers scanning the area in Vancouver was a one in its kind experience.


Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.

Yeah, I haven't finished it. I really should. It doesn't stand a chance in comparison with DX: HR though.


I don't claim that it's anywhere near DX: HR.  I just think it's a fun game, if you can look past the slightly clunky gunplay and the myriad of bugs and glitches (Like I said, it's made by Obsidian.  If you don't expect bugs and glitches from one of their games, you're definitely going to be disappointed.).

I remember the trailers wet my appetite but when I first played Alpha Protocol the controls seemed tedious and nowhere near the Space Bar genius in Mass Effect (yes, I support that feature very much).

Obsidian also made Fallout: New Vegas. An extremely climatic game if you ask me. I hated those long travels through the Mojave desert.

Modifié par paxxton, 11 juin 2012 - 10:22 .


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EpyonX3 wrote...

prettz wrote...

paxxton wrote...

I envy those who got the hoodie in the CE.


I don't have CE but have the hoodie:whistle:  (only possible on PC version )


I have PC version! How do I get this hoodie?


I'm guessing it involves modding.  Maybe Bioware shouldn't have put so much of the DLC on disc. :whistle:

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Reposted and...

Arian Dynas wrote...

We need a link to Salien Archer's EMS examination in the OP.


Both of you guys seem to agree it needs to be in the OP, but neither of you actually bothered providing a link.


You must forgive my noobness...if I had the link (or an idea of what page it was on), I would have provided it...if there is an easy way to search for specific posts, please let me know!

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MegaSovereign wrote...

Andromidius wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

If IT is not proven by the EC, I'm willing to bet IT-believers will start saying that the EC was just an extended indoctrination attempt.


And I'm pretty sure if it is proven all the anti-IT believers will start howling with rage.

Though considering most of them already are, I don't see a downside.

Generalisations are fun!


LOL

Oh my god. When the EC comes out and disproves the IT, reading back on this thread will be HILARIOUS.




Ill do the same on anti-IT threads should it be confirmed.

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Wow, Seival really is retarded, isn't it?

(I'm speaking about the creator of the "Normandy Escape" support thread, the "control ending" support thread, the "crucible" support thread, and the "stargazer" support thread.)


I love how this thread helps shine a completely different light on Control/Synthesis supporters. It's nearly as entertaining to observe them as the game itself.

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MaximizedAction wrote...

bencew wrote...

EpyonX3 wrote...

Shepard was sitting on a chair:

Posted Image

Had to use my custom Shepard. I call him Wolverine lol.

Hopefully that settles that.


Shepard "waking up" at the table reminds me of this scene from Blade Runner The Final Cut (spoiler alert) www.youtube.com/watch

Those who are familiar with the movie should know the implications of this (I don't want to spoiler it for others unless you want me too)


By god, you're right. At least, the forrest's there. And yes, implications...interesting.


Yeah, I third this.  It's VERY likely that the devs would have watched Blade Runner, so they would know what's what.  I wonder where they stand on that particular debate? :whistle:

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Ill do the same on anti-IT threads should it be confirmed.


Alright, then. lulz.

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paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Alright, a little off topic, but I just finished Deus Ex human revolution.

Best game/story of 2011.

Hell, yeah!


I don't deny that it was a great game, but I would humbly suggest that Batman: Arkham City was superior.

Edit: Until I played Arkham City, Deus Ex, might have been my favorite game from last year.  However, it was a strong year for gaming, and I don't necessarily like to declare that one game was THE best from last year.  Almost all the major releases that year succeeded in what they were trying to accomplish.

Deus Ex: HR actually run decently on my 5-year-old PC so it was the best. Period. Posted Image
 
I absolutely loved the story. I loved the combat and stealth system. Those killing cutscenes looked freaking awesome. And crawling behind desks with FEMA soldiers scanning the area in Vancouver was a one in its kind experience.


Well, that IS a good reason for you to think it is best. :)  I'm curious, have you ever played a game called Alpha Protocol?  It's kind of like Deus Ex, but with a spy theme.  It wasn't the most polished game (Obviously, it was made by Obsidian. ;)), but I thought it was fun.

Yeah, I haven't finished it. I really should. It doesn't stand a chance in comparison with DX: HR though.


I don't claim that it's anywhere near DX: HR.  I just think it's a fun game, if you can look past the slightly clunky gunplay and the myriad of bugs and glitches (Like I said, it's made by Obsidian.  If you don't expect bugs and glitches from one of their games, you're definitely going to be disappointed.).

I remember the trailers wet my appetite but when I first played Alpha Protocol the controls seemed tedious and nowhere near the Space Bar genius in Mass Effect (yes, I support that feature very much).

Obsidian also made Fallout: New Vegas. An extremely climatic game if you ask me. I hated those long travels through the Mojave desert.


Eh, I've been playing Fallout 3 a little bit, and I'm not really sure how I feel about it.  Part of me says that it's pretty atmospheric, but another part of me says that the gunplay is clunky and the game seems to lack drive.  Although, the experience of frenzying the Fire Ant Queen and then killing her with a COMBAT KNIFE while she was distracted by a robot is something I don't think ANY game will EVER let me repeat.

Modifié par Dwailing, 11 juin 2012 - 10:26 .


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MegaSovereign wrote...

Ill do the same on anti-IT threads should it be confirmed.


Alright, then. lulz.



How about a little less idiocy ignorance and arrogance and a little more tolerance, huh, bro?

Modifié par estebanus, 11 juin 2012 - 10:29 .


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Dwailing wrote...


Yeah, I third this.  It's VERY likely that the devs would have watched Blade Runner, so they would know what's what.  I wonder where they stand on that particular debate? :whistle:


I think the addition of this particular scene in Director's Cut pretty much settled it and there are a lot other hints for the same conclusion imo. But yeah, I'd like to know their opinion on this=]

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i see nobody still found a way to logically explain the Shepard breath scene at the end of Destroy

IT: he is waking up on Earth
NON-IT: NO HE IS NOT! YOU STUPID

if he is not on earth, than is the Citadel now made of cement and Rebar and just covered in Metal? because if that is the case then why have it with Mass Effect fields? to keep it afloat? no need in space. to give people an atmosphere? that is part of it, but ME fields are mainly used to protect Ships and Stations from ship fire. so, why would the council okay the use of a primitive building material to repair the Station? or did they use Cement and Rebar on the Crucible, even though it is a stupid idea?