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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#17726
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Dwailing wrote...

BTW, anyone know when the updates on Operation Status comes in? 'Cause I want to know if the multiplayer challenge was completed (I want another N7 weapon.).


I think its usually Tuesday or Wednesday, so should be today or tomorrow.

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byne wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

BTW, anyone know when the updates on Operation Status comes in? 'Cause I want to know if the multiplayer challenge was completed (I want another N7 weapon.).


I think its usually Tuesday or Wednesday, so should be today or tomorrow.


Thanks!

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Even if indoc aint true, how about a dlc following a soldier on earth who has to deal with indoctrination. I'd buy it in a heartbeat if its done well enough ^_^

Modifié par Dendio1, 12 juin 2012 - 07:17 .


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After following HellishFiend's and Epyon's discussion, it got me thinking about something Anderson states midway into the game about London and how "something big is happening there." and this was all long before we learn the Citadel is the Catalyst and that before the Reapers move the Citadel there. And as it turns out, based on in game evidence, London IS significant to the Reaper's plans as they move the Citadel basically right over top of it to facilitate their harvesting of humanity.

So, looking at this even at face value, it seems like moving the Citadel to London was their plan all along. they start preparing for it midway through the game and then the Citadel is basically in orbit over London by the end.

So, based on the fact that the Reapers are mostly concentrated on Earth, Harbinger's personal interest in Shepard, and Vendetta's statement of the Reapers using the Citadel to complete the harvesting of humanity, and their supposed plan to turn humanity into a Sovereign-class Reaper, it seems pretty likely they were planning to move the Citadel there all along. The question now is, why did they wait until now to do it? were they attempting to weaken the galaxy's defenses first? were they trying to locate Shepard? or could it just be story convenient? I'm not sure, but to me it seems likely that when TIM informed the Reapers of Shepard's plan they expidited their plans, knowing the Crucible was finished. I don't believe they were scared, but they were being strategically cautious, OR if the Crucible turns out to be a trap,just trying to fool the invading fleets into thinking it was vital for them to protect it, yet it was almost too easy for them to get the Crucible in place...

Whether you believe in IT or a face-value interpretation it does see like something is amiss doean't it? Still, much of this is open to interpretation, as usual.

Edited for spelling

Modifié par Arashi08, 12 juin 2012 - 07:33 .


#17730
HellishFiend

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Arashi08 wrote...

After following HellishFiend's and Epyon's discussion, it got me thinking about something Anderson states midway into the game about London and how "something big is happening there." and this was all long before we learn the Citadel is the Catalyst and that before the Reapers move the Citadel there. And as it turns out, based on in game evidence, London IS significant to the Reaper's plans as they move the Citadel basically right over top of it to facilitate their harvesting of humanity.

So, looking at this even at face value, it seems like moving the Citadel to London was their plan all along. they start preparing for it midway through the game and then the Citadel is basically in orbit over London by the end.

So, based on the fact that the Reapers are mostly concentrated on Earth, Harbinger's personal interest in Shepard, and Vendetta's statement of the Reapers using the Citadel to complete the harvesting of humanity, and their supposed plan to turn humanity into a Sovereign-class Reaper, it seems pretty likely they were planning to move the Citadel there all along. The question now is, why did they wait until now to do it? were they attempting to weaken the galaxy's defenses first? were they trying to locate Shepard? or could it just be story convenient? I'm not sure, but to me it seems likely that when TIM informed the Reapers of Shepard's plan they expidated their plans, knowing the Crucible was finished. I don't believe they were scared, but they were being strategically cautious, OR if the Crucible turns out to be a trap,just trying to fool the invading fleets into thinking it was vital for them to protect it, yet it was almost too easy for them to get the Crucible in place...

Whether you believe in IT or a face-value interpretation it does see like something is amiss doean't it? Still, much of this is open to interpretation, as usual.


Good post. You raise some points I hadnt thought of before. I'd have to think on it a bit to come up with any speculations, though. London being revealed as a big point of interest for the Reapers prior to the catalyst/citadel thing is curious, to be sure.  If it has any implications for IT, they arent immediately apparent. 

#17731
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I just found about all this Indroctrnation Theory and it really blows your mind, but while I was watching the videos and reading I always found the word Harbinger (my game is in spanish so mine says Heraldo) but just to confirm it was the same I googleit but while I was looking images before I wrote this "Harbinger is heraldo" and an interesting image.

http://i.imgur.com/YTyJv.png

This may just be a coincidence but who knows.

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SteelTrainer wrote...

I just found about all this Indroctrnation Theory and it really blows your mind, but while I was watching the videos and reading I always found the word Harbinger (my game is in spanish so mine says Heraldo) but just to confirm it was the same I googleit but while I was looking images before I wrote this "Harbinger is heraldo" and an interesting image.

http://i.imgur.com/YTyJv.png

This may just be a coincidence but who knows.


I believe that image was debunked as a fake by someone else that has access to the game files. It was just a ruse to try and stir up the crowd. 

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SteelTrainer wrote...

I just found about all this Indroctrnation Theory and it really blows your mind, but while I was watching the videos and reading I always found the word Harbinger (my game is in spanish so mine says Heraldo) but just to confirm it was the same I googleit but while I was looking images before I wrote this "Harbinger is heraldo" and an interesting image.

http://i.imgur.com/YTyJv.png

This may just be a coincidence but who knows.


This image was proven fake months ago.

#17734
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HellishFiend wrote...

Arashi08 wrote...

After following HellishFiend's and Epyon's discussion, it got me thinking about something Anderson states midway into the game about London and how "something big is happening there." and this was all long before we learn the Citadel is the Catalyst and that before the Reapers move the Citadel there. And as it turns out, based on in game evidence, London IS significant to the Reaper's plans as they move the Citadel basically right over top of it to facilitate their harvesting of humanity.

So, looking at this even at face value, it seems like moving the Citadel to London was their plan all along. they start preparing for it midway through the game and then the Citadel is basically in orbit over London by the end.

So, based on the fact that the Reapers are mostly concentrated on Earth, Harbinger's personal interest in Shepard, and Vendetta's statement of the Reapers using the Citadel to complete the harvesting of humanity, and their supposed plan to turn humanity into a Sovereign-class Reaper, it seems pretty likely they were planning to move the Citadel there all along. The question now is, why did they wait until now to do it? were they attempting to weaken the galaxy's defenses first? were they trying to locate Shepard? or could it just be story convenient? I'm not sure, but to me it seems likely that when TIM informed the Reapers of Shepard's plan they expidated their plans, knowing the Crucible was finished. I don't believe they were scared, but they were being strategically cautious, OR if the Crucible turns out to be a trap,just trying to fool the invading fleets into thinking it was vital for them to protect it, yet it was almost too easy for them to get the Crucible in place...

Whether you believe in IT or a face-value interpretation it does see like something is amiss doean't it? Still, much of this is open to interpretation, as usual.


Good post. You raise some points I hadnt thought of before. I'd have to think on it a bit to come up with any speculations, though. London being revealed as a big point of interest for the Reapers prior to the catalyst/citadel thing is curious, to be sure.  If it has any implications for IT, they arent immediately apparent. 


The easiest explaination to avoid unnecessary eyebrow raising is, that the Prothean VI was hacked. It is a fact that we don't really know for sure what TIM really did. Or at least, I'm not fully convinced that he ran to the Reapers and then "48 hours later" he mumbles about having faith in his abilities.

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Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


Well, an exterior cooling pad MIGHT be able to keep tempertures a little bit lower, though I doubt that anything short of actually replacing the fan would really fix it.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


All you can do is replace it or get a laptop cooling dock.

#17738
Earthborn_Shepard

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


that's.. not good

at least I guess you weren't as stupid as me and didn't crush it with your own hands.. while the fan was running...
yeah, long story

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In other news, I just got a Phoenix Adept and N7 Eagle in my Victory Pack. I'm very happy now.

#17740
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Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


Put your laptop on "power saver" mode to reduce heat generation. Find a small fan (not a large one, the motors from large ones can generate harmful interference) that you can direct into the air vent of the broken fan. That will work as a stopgap, but you need to get that fan replaced. A laptop will not last long without proper cooling. 

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Arian Dynas

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HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


Put your laptop on "power saver" mode to reduce heat generation. Find a small fan (not a large one, the motors from large ones can generate harmful interference) that you can direct into the air vent of the broken fan. That will work as a stopgap, but you need to get that fan replaced. A laptop will not last long without proper cooling. 


:pinched: Practiaclly the end of the world. And I've got to leave town within the week :pinched:

#17742
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You're in Alaska right? Is it difficult to get fans and thermal compound? Because it's definitely a diy job, just have to be careful, occasionally clear your static charge, and make sure you detach the ribbon cables of anything you remove.

I'm sure you don't need to be told but I'd definitely make sure I have anything vital backed up externally

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 12 juin 2012 - 08:08 .


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Just got done battling some indoctrinated husks in another thread ... thank god I'm back where level head IDT's-ist's thrive!

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


What kind of laptop is? it can be fixed with some models...

If not might as well get a new one... i recently got a Acer timeline X with nvidea optimus For 800$ a few months ago.

Can run crysis o very high
Surprisingly thin
8hr+ battery.

Just a suggestion.....

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Dwailing wrote...

In other news, I just got a Phoenix Adept and N7 Eagle in my Victory Pack. I'm very happy now.


You obviously have no idea how the Eagle performs.  If TIM tried to kill himself with that thing, all he'd get is a decent temple massage.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Hey guys, I'm back. And I think I have bad news.

The cooling fan on my laptop has died.

Which for those of you who know how hot a laptop gets, is very very bad.

Anyone know a way to help?


Put your laptop on "power saver" mode to reduce heat generation. Find a small fan (not a large one, the motors from large ones can generate harmful interference) that you can direct into the air vent of the broken fan. That will work as a stopgap, but you need to get that fan replaced. A laptop will not last long without proper cooling. 


:pinched: Practiaclly the end of the world. And I've got to leave town within the week :pinched:


I had so much dust that my gpu temps underload would reach 95 or higher. After cleaning I dropped down to mid to low 70's. My laptop lasted at 95 c for a few months before I realized how dusty it had gotten. I hear gpu can last into the low 100's...also my fan doesnt kick into high gear until gpu breaches 80 c.

Modifié par Dendio1, 12 juin 2012 - 08:16 .


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Rifneno wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

In other news, I just got a Phoenix Adept and N7 Eagle in my Victory Pack. I'm very happy now.


You obviously have no idea how the Eagle performs.  If TIM tried to kill himself with that thing, all he'd get is a decent temple massage.


I've used it before in singleplayer.  I can use it no problem.  Besides, if I'm an Adept, I don't really NEED a gun, do I? ;)

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Dwailing wrote...

I've used it before in singleplayer.  I can use it no problem.  Besides, if I'm an Adept, I don't really NEED a gun, do I? ;)


No, but you can take a phalanx or carnifex instead, get the same or better cooldown, and shooting at people will damage more than the paintjob on their armor.

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Dwailing wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

In other news, I just got a Phoenix Adept and N7 Eagle in my Victory Pack. I'm very happy now.


You obviously have no idea how the Eagle performs.  If TIM tried to kill himself with that thing, all he'd get is a decent temple massage.


I've used it before in singleplayer.  I can use it no problem.  Besides, if I'm an Adept, I don't really NEED a gun, do I? ;)


I'm an Adept and have a Black Widow just for insurance.

#17750
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Not to make any sweeping generalizations or anything but this whole indoctrination theory seems like a crazy cult.