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[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

But if you check the base of the tower, nothing in that spot is coming from the crucible.



Edit: In fact, you can see that the crucible never touches the citadel (at least in the base of the tower)

But they look connected.

I don't see any connection. I just see the beam coming from the crucible.

It reminded me of a spark plug. very close but not touching.

But they are clearly connected. The tube and the pillars stretch to the Crucible.

It's clearly not connected. There's empty void between the citadel "pillars" and the crucible parts. The perspective is crystal clear. There's no connection.

[Makrys]

llbountyhunter wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Somebody feel free to put this discussion to rest. I don't have the patience to deal with Jijeebo: http://social.biowar...dex/10973597/12

I think it was put to rest 19 hrs ago...

The thread is 3 months old. I reunited is yesterday, so techinically it was put to rest long before that. But not this particular discussion. So, no it wasn't. 

Modifié par Makrys, 13 juin 2012 - 03:46 .

[paxxton]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 03:47 .

[Earthborn_Shepard]

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

Ok, but either way it's still the central tower. So it would be like discovering a new room in.. uh.. the white house, or something like that.

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...

Somebody feel free to put this discussion to rest. I don't have the patience to deal with Jijeebo: http://social.biowar...dex/10973597/12

Dont look at me.. I already said my piece in that thread.. 

[MaximizedAction]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

Ok, but either way it's still the central tower. So it would be like discovering a new room in.. uh.. the white house, or something like that.

Well said!

[paxxton]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

Ok, but either way it's still the central tower. So it would be like discovering a new room in.. uh.. the white house, or something like that.

What's unusual with that?  jk

Somehow that might have slipped off their attention. It's on the outer hull. Or this is just that docking bay Corik mentioned earlier.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 03:53 .

[llbountyhunter]

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

And people NEVER dock from the back? (hehehe) doesnt the normandy do that several times?

It was never there. face it. Its a dream.

[HellishFiend]

 For anyone interested in gaining a little perspective into the Control camp, observe my discussion with them:

http://social.biowar...044/66#12556507 

For the record, I'm interested in understanding their perspective because my initial choice was Control, and I'm curious to explore the reasons why they continue to believe in it, while I quickly converted to IT after discovering it. 

[paxxton]

llbountyhunter wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I still can't believe NOBODY ever discovered that area on the Citadel. Yes, it's a very big space station, but to think nobody would have been at that point, in the very middle? I'm not buying that.

The Citadel is big and that place is relatively small. Do you think people in a city hall know every trash can in the whole town?

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

It takes place at the bottom of the Citadel Tower, not at the top. It also happens upside down in relation to the Presidium's up direction (the same is with TIM/Anderson scene).

And people NEVER dock from the back? (hehehe) doesnt the normandy do that several times?

It was never there. face it. Its a dream.

LOL. I know it's a dream. Just trying to explain why we see what we see in there.

[Corik]

llbountyhunter wrote...

And people NEVER dock from the back? (hehehe) doesnt the normandy do that several times?

It was never there. face it. Its a dream.

In fact, in the video where the crucible "docks", the base of the tower is completely flat. There's nothing there. Well, maybe it's cloacked thanks to space

Modifié par Corik, 13 juin 2012 - 03:59 .

[paxxton]

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

But if you check the base of the tower, nothing in that spot is coming from the crucible.



Edit: In fact, you can see that the crucible never touches the citadel (at least in the base of the tower)

But they look connected.

I don't see any connection. I just see the beam coming from the crucible.

It reminded me of a spark plug. very close but not touching.

But they are clearly connected. The tube and the pillars stretch to the Crucible.

It's clearly not connected. There's empty void between the citadel "pillars" and the crucible parts. The perspective is crystal clear. There's no connection.

Hmm...maybe the perspective makes it hard to see. It gets smaller with distance.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 03:59 .

[Corik]

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

It's clearly not connected. There's empty void between the citadel "pillars" and the crucible parts. The perspective is crystal clear. There's no connection.

Hmm...maybe the perspective makes it hard to see. It getaller with distance.

Hehe, I don't want you to just "tust" me when I say there's no connection. But I'm 100% sure there's nothing between the crucible parts and the citadel weird decorations (to name it somehow). Check it, you will see it.

Modifié par Corik, 13 juin 2012 - 03:58 .

[HellishFiend]

Large quote pyramids are shrines to the face value interpretation. Just sayin'

edit: Thanks Corik

Modifié par HellishFiend, 13 juin 2012 - 04:00 .

[paxxton]

Corik wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Corik wrote...

It's clearly not connected. There's empty void between the citadel "pillars" and the crucible parts. The perspective is crystal clear. There's no connection.

Hmm...maybe the perspective makes it hard to see. It gets smaller with distance.

Hehe, I don't want you to just "tust" me when I say there's no connection. But I'm 100% sure there's nothing between the crucible parts and the citadel weird decorations (to name it somehow). Check it, you will see it.

Hmm...maybe they go through the beam and it obscures further view.

Let's call them the Citadel's "art deco" (useless nice looking pieces).  They also resemble electric poles (in a more figurative way).

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 04:07 .

[paxxton]

[SILENCE CRAWLS]

[HellishFiend]

I've only been loosely following this particular discussion, but I'd like to point out that the thing that stands out the most for me is that the bottom of the Citadel Tower is clearly visible in at least one shot, and it is completely flat with no evidence of any conspicuous structures or decision chambers. Given the amount of detailing put in to models and objects even in very wide angle views, I find it hard to believe that this was an oversight. You would basically have to subscribe to something similar to Epyon's "Shepard was on the Crucible" theory in order to accept it at face value.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

@Hellish
Can't do it, can't look at that topic for longer than few minutes.
Starbinger's pulling a Morinth on them and they refuse to see it.

[paxxton]

HellishFiend wrote...

I've only been loosely following this particular discussion, but I'd like to point out that the thing that stands out the most for me is that the bottom of the Citadel Tower is clearly visible in at least one shot, and it is completely flat with no evidence of any conspicuous structures or decision chambers. Given the amount of detailing put in to models and objects even in very wide angle views, I find it hard to believe that this was an oversight. You would basically have to subscribe to something similar to Epyon's "Shepard was on the Crucible" theory in order to accept it at face value.

You can't see the details from a distance. Like the streets of the Citadel arms.

I haven't visited Epyon's thread quite some time. But he's theory seemed plausible (if you consider that the Catalyst lied about Shepard being on the Citadel like he did about everything).

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 04:22 .

[Rosewind]

QUESTION!!!!!! What words do you want to flash on the Indoc sig I am suppose to be making? or want to keep the ones I already have?

[umadcommander]

you can see the bottom of the citadel tower on the loading screen when you enter the citadel, looks pretty flat to me

[HellishFiend]

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

I've only been loosely following this particular discussion, but I'd like to point out that the thing that stands out the most for me is that the bottom of the Citadel Tower is clearly visible in at least one shot, and it is completely flat with no evidence of any conspicuous structures or decision chambers. Given the amount of detailing put in to models and objects even in very wide angle views, I find it hard to believe that this was an oversight. You would basically have to subscribe to something similar to Epyon's "Shepard was on the Crucible" theory in order to accept it at face value.

You can't see the details from a distance. Like the streets of the Citadel arms.

I haven't visited Epyon's thread quite some time. But he's theory seemed plausible (if you consider that the Catalyst lied about Shepard being on the Citadel like he did about everything).

Oh I disagree. You can see plenty enough detail to see that the bottom of the Citadel Tower is completely flat. There is not even a lazy 2d texture to indicate the presence of something other than grey, flat, empty space. 

[HellishFiend]

ThisOneIsPunny wrote...

@Hellish
Can't do it, can't look at that topic for longer than few minutes.
Starbinger's pulling a Morinth on them and they refuse to see it.

Fair enough.  That's why I went out of my way to mention why I'm curious into their mentality, because aside from that, their viewpoint is pretty tough to swallow. Just trying to see if I can gain a deeper insight to my initial choice is all. 

[paxxton]

Rosewind wrote...

QUESTION!!!!!! What words do you want to flash on the Indoc sig I am suppose to be making? or want to keep the ones I already have?

"It's time to take Control of yourself, Shepard". How's that?

[DJBare]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

No, but come on. It's not like it's a small place hidden in the wards somewhere. It's the top of the central tower we're talking about. Actually, I'm still a bit confused where the gostchild conversation takes place.

In Shepards mind.
If we are correct in our assumptions from the clues, then everything witnessed by Shepard is irrelevant as far as location is concerned, does not matter whether s/he is on the crucible or the citadel, it's irrelevant given that Shepards true location is possibly still on earth, I just hope we get some kind of answer to this in the EC.