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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#18401
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HellishFiend wrote...

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Kahlee Sanders: "We would've never gotten out if you hadn't come."



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#18402
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Makrys wrote...

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Wow. Tbat is ****ing brilliant!


It also makes me really miss Harbinger. :crying:

edit: I would have loved for Harbinger to have said this when he landed by the conduit. 


Wow, only from seeing that little bit, I'm amazed! Much. Watch. Entire. Video. 


For the record, all of Prettz's videos are worth watching. He is a very talented editor. 

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paxxton wrote...

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Kahlee Sanders: "We would've never gotten out if you hadn't come."


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Erm.. I'll be going now... :whistle:

#18404
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Makrys wrote...

 How about a series of quotes from some squadmates throughout the trilogy, interlaced with Harbinger quotes?

"You are remarkably strong-willed, Commander." - Liara T'Soni

"You cannot escape your destiny, Shepard." - Harbinger

"Shepard is my battle-master. He has no match." - Grunt

"It is useless to resist." - Harbinger

"I just want to know: Is the person I followed to hell and back still in there?" - Kaidan Alenko

"Struggle if you wish, your mind will be mine." - Harbinger

"And then he'll pick you up, dust you off, and tell you you're the best damn soldier he's ever met." - Garrus Vakarian

"Shepard... you do not yet comprehend your place in things."

(And then maybe finish with a simple...) 

Wake up, Shepard (Along with Shepard's eyes)

(Or something along those lines)

That's my pitch anyway!

Nice compilation!

#18405
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I offer a gift of words. An affirmation of who you are, and who you will become... I see you, your uniform fits as though you were born wearing it. You are a soldier through and through, proud, solitary, alone but it gives you strength.

This may be who you are, but it is not who you will become. It only forms the basis for your future greatness. Remember these words when doubt descends, Commander.


Too many people forgot too many words when making their final decision in the end. It's a shame, really. 

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*pats chin* alll very good, I still need apic don;t know what one i don;t play any default shep.

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HellishFiend wrote...

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I offer a gift of words. An affirmation of who you are, and who you will become... I see you, your uniform fits as though you were born wearing it. You are a soldier through and through, proud, solitary, alone but it gives you strength.

This may be who you are, but it is not who you will become. It only forms the basis for your future greatness. Remember these words when doubt descends, Commander.


Too many people forgot too many words when making their final decision in the end. It's a shame, really. 


This warning came from others in ME3 as well and it seems they overlooked them. Samara's comment stands out for me, as does Bakara's.

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Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

I offer a gift of words. An affirmation of who you are, and who you will become... I see you, your uniform fits as though you were born wearing it. You are a soldier through and through, proud, solitary, alone but it gives you strength.

This may be who you are, but it is not who you will become. It only forms the basis for your future greatness. Remember these words when doubt descends, Commander.


Too many people forgot too many words when making their final decision in the end. It's a shame, really. 


This warning came from others in ME3 as well and it seems they overlooked them. Samara's comment stands out for me, as does Bakara's.


You are right, it goes back as far as that quote from consort in ME1, but is repeated numerous times throughout the trilogy with varying levels of subtlety. Granted, many of them were optional dialog that you would only hear by going somewhat out of your way (for example, you never even have to speak to Eve even once while she is on the Normandy), but then again, I think Bioware intended only for completionists to be able to see through the indoctrination attempt and defeat it. 

It's things like this which span the length of the trilogy that make me believe this ending was planned from the start. 

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Reading all these quotes together, I can't help but believe we are in store for something truly awesome.

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Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??

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Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??


We all sigh and say 'Oh well', and hope the ending can explain the countless plot holes without it. I will also be very dissapointed... it means all the foreshadowing and evidence was nothing more than coincidences...which... makes no sense. So, if the IT isn't true, I will have numerous questions. Which they promised us would not happen.

I will also walk away from Bioware.

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StElmo wrote...
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StElmo wrote...

Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??


We do nothing put watch what happen's and if it goes south then

10 hours later at Bioware HQ " um is it sun set already?

Bioware staff member: un... I don't think that 's the sun setting it's more like an angry mob going to some place it look like."

5 minutes later Staff newbe: Ya the were going some were but to here."

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Makrys wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??


We all sigh and say 'Oh well', and hope the ending can explain the countless plot holes without it. I will also be very dissapointed... it means all the foreshadowing and evidence was nothing more than coincidences...which... makes no sense. So, if the IT isn't true, I will have numerous questions. Which they promised us would not happen.

I will also walk away from Bioware.

We should then gather our strength, create our own franchise and buy BioWare out.

Modifié par paxxton, 13 juin 2012 - 06:21 .


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StElmo wrote...

Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??

Well, if whatever they give us is as cool as IT, I will be more than satisfied. If they give us something lame, and I seriously doubt they will, I will be disappointed for a while and then move on. Participating in this thread has been rewarding, regardless of how the ending pans out.

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HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Kahlee Sanders: "We would've never gotten out if you hadn't come."


*snip*

*snip*


Erm.. I'll be going now... :whistle:


Double Nice!

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HellishFiend wrote...

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Bioware:

There will be no stepping back, no stepping forward, and no confirming Indoctrination theory!

Modifié par Earthborn_Shepard, 13 juin 2012 - 06:21 .


#18418
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Lol. And my response is...

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Big Bad wrote...

Reading all these quotes together, I can't help but believe we are in store for something truly awesome.


When I figured out what was happening, one of the things that bothered me about early IT research was that it concentrated too much on the ending. So much evidence; even if it is not straight up 'proof' like so many want to be silver spoon fed, it's there 'buried in the dialog'. ME2's focus was different, but I bet we could even find some evidence of Shep being told or otherwise warned 'you actions are all that will matter.' - 'you will be remembered for what you have done.' etc.

I think Mordin may touch on this. I've been wanting to play through ME1 and 2 again, so I guess I'll capture things that are thematically obvious in the light of the impending Indoctrination attempt.

I do agree that we are headed for some awesome though. It's hard to think anticipation for ME3 could be rivaled, but after the extended cut, depending on what happens ME4 anticipation could shatter boundaries.

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HellishFiend wrote...

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Hell, yeah!

#18421
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paxxton wrote...

Makrys wrote...

StElmo wrote...

Whats gonna happen if BioWare don't confirm IT with the EC??


We all sigh and say 'Oh well', and hope the ending can explain the countless plot holes without it. I will also be very dissapointed... it means all the foreshadowing and evidence was nothing more than coincidences...which... makes no sense. So, if the IT isn't true, I will have numerous questions. Which they promised us would not happen.

I will also walk away from Bioware.

We should then gather our strength, create our own franchise and buy BioWare out.


First we have to deal with EA and then we need some good damm lawyers. Also we need about 1 billion dollars to but out Bioware, and well we'll make it up as we go.:D

Modifié par masster blaster, 13 juin 2012 - 06:26 .


#18422
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Hell, yeah!


I'm going to refer people to that post every time they come in with one of those "What if" scenarios... :D:devil:

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If IT is not true (and even if it is, let's face it) I hope Bioware make an AWESOME ending for mass effect. I mean, joker and the others not leaving Shepard behind, humanity saved, Earth saved, post-battle conversation with your crew and LI... those things :P

#18424
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Somebody kidnap Romney. We'll need his business destroying skills. Also his wallet.

Modifié par Makrys, 13 juin 2012 - 06:25 .


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So any news from Bioware, or cast of ME?