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[LazyTechGuy]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

LazyTechGuy wrote...

But isn't the plot of ME1 dealing with Sovereign trying to turn the Citadel relay on so that the Reaper forces can get in?  How could they if they needed a power source and the Crucible wasn't around yet?  Or did I read this theory wrong?

No, but basicly from what we see in the Mass Effect series, though you need two linking relays it seems as if only the starting relay, the one where you start your jump is where energy is transferred to the ship for the jump.

My theory is essentially that the Citadel can function as the end point of a relay jump from Dark Space, but needs a external power source, the Crucible to send anything in the opposite direction. I agure this on the fact taht there lacks the element zero core apperent in every relay and under my theory the Citadel lacks this because else the species of each cycle would realize it is giant relay. This is also a safety precation for when the Reapers are dormant insuring that no one  jumps to them by coincedence.

What Sovereign tried to under my theory is to open the Citadel relay in the sense that the link between the Dark Space Relay and the Citadel Relay was open, but with only the relay in Dark Space beeing active in the sense taht it can send something off.

But off course I cant be certain as it may be that you really need both endings of relay jump at full power to make it, but I recall no definitive answer beeing given in that area.

Okay, I gotcha now.  Just based off the implications from the series, it would seem like both points need to be "on", at least to a certain degree.  Now maybe the receiving relay doesn't need nearly the amount of power that the sending relay needs.  So it could be that the Citadel might have enough resources for a low-power mode for receiving and yeah, would need a bigger power source (for theoretical purposes, the Crucible) to power up it's "send mode".

Modifié par LazyTechGuy, 14 juin 2012 - 07:01 .

[Makrys]

Turbo_J wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

"Obviously, I can say that it won't be after. *laughs* This is the end, so that's it. So, it would be kind of boring just looking at a wasteland. That would be the DLC if we did it after. No, but um, I'm sure... you know, we'll find a way to tie it into the ME3 story. That would be the main thing if we do it."

I'm just taking the man at his word. Not going to claim what they will or will not do. He specifically said they won't, so as of now, that's all we have to go on. The Stargazer scene could imply MANY things, least of which would be post-ending DLC, I highly doubt it. If anything, the Stargazer scene was just another easter egg like the breathe scene. Implying something more is to come with the ending.

Saying it would be kind of boring just looking at a wasteland strongly implies that he means there will be no DLC that chronologically occurs after the defeat of the Reapers and conclusion of the existing plot arcs. That does not specifically the chronology of the DLC being after what we see before the credits roll. If that doesnt have you convinced, we may just have to agree to disagree on this one. 

See, THIS is where you have misunderstood me. And I'm not entirely sure how.

I never said anything about the credits. Walters said that after the ending of ME3, there would be no DLC. I'm speaking strictly within story here. My point: It sounds like after the EC, all DLC we will get will happen pre-Priority: Earth. He said the DLC wouldn't take place after the end. The EC does NOT take place after the end, besides the epilogues that it will most likely contain, but I consider that PART OF the end. 

Point, from what I've heard, all DLC will take place during, not after the campaign. Why is that so bad? Or have we simply misunderstood eachother?

"Are we more than our thoughts?"

If from Cronos (or anywhere) the events that take place are full hallucination/Indoctrination, did they happen? Was it really the end? = Loop Hole.

*sigh* The EC will be the end. So, when we see the EC and actually see the end of the STORY, not game, then we'll know when any future DLC will be. Basically, before the events of the EC (aka 'true ending').

This is what I've been trying to say from the get go. Perhaps I did not word things as best as I could. If so, I apologize.

This would all be so much easier if we were all gathered around a fire sipping on some tea/coffee/whatever beverage warms your heart. Internet lingo is my villain sometimes. It can be frustrating trying to portray a clear message with mere typed words. 

NEEDS MOAR EMOTION.

Please, insert emotional gif. here:

Modifié par Makrys, 14 juin 2012 - 07:03 .

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...
 So, I'm curious what did you think I was implying? 

I thought that you were implying that DLC would not take place after the last chronological on-disc event. It's arguable what that last event actually is, but in any case, I think we can safely conclude that DLC can and will take place after what we have on-disc. 

[Rosewind]

Turbo_J wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Here's one example, Hellish: 

I'm fairly sure I've heard it another time as well, but don't remember exactly when or where.

I'm pretty sure that they are just going to end up exploiting a clever technicality in the wording he uses. I would focus mostly on the first words out of his mouth, which are "We're not really releasing or talking about anything about that right now", indicating that saying too much might give something away. 

He was referring to WHAT the DLC will be. As far as when it will happen in the story, he was very specific that it wouldn't happen after the events of the campaign. Come on, Hellish, it was obvious. He specifically said that. Until Bioware says something otherwise, this has been the common thing I've heard in regards to when any DLC will take place.

"Obviously, I can say that it won't be after. *laughs* This is the end, so that's it."

Then how we going to take back omega? Aria said she wont try till after the reapers are finished ....*sniff* she promised me

It could happen one of two ways.

It will take place between Cronos and subsequent recovery of Sheps Indoctrination/injuries and the end of the EC. I've said this numerous times. Omega has to happen soon; but not necessarily before the 'clean up' of Reapers or Reaper ground forces. Besides, we still have to go after TIM. IMO - he is on Omega and I think if Indoctrination is on Cronos, we will be going to the Citadel (which never moved), picking up Aria, and heading for Omega.

The second way it can happen is simply before the Stargeezer scene.

WHen he said the end I think he meant the end of gameplay....

[Turbo_J]

Makrys wrote...

*sigh* The EC will be the end. So, when we see the EC and actually see the end of the STORY, not game, then we'll know when any future DLC will be. Basically, before the events of the EC (aka 'true ending).

This is what I've been trying to say from the get go. Perhaps I did not word things as best as I could. If so, I apologize.

We You. Just a clarity arror.

[Turbo_J]

I broke the thread.

[Makrys]

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...
 So, I'm curious what did you think I was implying? 

I thought that you were implying that DLC would not take place after the last chronological on-disc event. It's arguable what that last event actually is, but in any case, I think we can safely conclude that DLC can and will take place after what we have on-disc. 

What do you mean, 'on disc'? As in, there will be no future DLC... period? No! I was talking about the story. DLC will be during the story, not after. Which I think you see now, and we both agree on. So... that's that. 

[Makrys]

Turbo_J wrote...

Makrys wrote...

*sigh* The EC will be the end. So, when we see the EC and actually see the end of the STORY, not game, then we'll know when any future DLC will be. Basically, before the events of the EC (aka 'true ending).

This is what I've been trying to say from the get go. Perhaps I did not word things as best as I could. If so, I apologize.

We You. Just a clarity arror.

*hug*

Thanks. I'm not the best writer sometimes when it comes to clarity and closure... 

Oh, yes. I just went there.

In all seriousness though, I love Mac.

[Jadebaby]

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

[Makrys]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Modifié par Makrys, 14 juin 2012 - 07:14 .

[HellishFiend]

Posting a link to this brave thread I created, in case anyone wants to chime in:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12575537/1

[munnellyladt]

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Yea, Jesica marizan replied to a persons message on twiter.
i dont remember what the  guy said,he said at the end "to bad theres no gameplay in the EC"
Jesica then replied"i dont know where you got that from,ooooooo whhaatt?

[Makrys]

HellishFiend wrote...

Posting a link to this brave thread I created, in case anyone wants to chime in:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12575537/1

You posted a topic on the forum, not in the IT thread.

Prepare for innane stubbonness, stupidity, and 'I know everything, so everyone else should just leave'.

His name is Taboo-XX.

God that guy pisses me off. Good luck.

[Makrys]

munnellyladt wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Yea, Jesica marizan replied to a persons message on twiter.
i dont remember what the  guy said,he said at the end "to bad theres no gameplay in the EC"
Jesica then replied"i dont know where you got that from,ooooooo whhaatt?

Yes. But people usually just deny that with the usual, "Merizan cannot be trusted".

Which I find funny because if Merizan were to come out and say, "Hey guys, nice try and all, but the IT isn't true". Everyone would be up in arms screaming, and rubbing it in our faces. You know they would.

Love the anti-IT hypocrisy.

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Posting a link to this brave thread I created, in case anyone wants to chime in:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12575537/1

You posted a topic on the forum, not in the IT thread.

Prepare for innane stubbonness, stupidity, and 'I know everything, so everyone else should just leave'.

His name is Taboo-XX.

God that guy pisses me off. Good luck.

I've dealt with him before, so I'm prepared. He tried getting under my skin in my Stargazer scene thread. Didnt work there, wont work here. Free bumps, as far as I'm concerned. 

[Jadebaby]

Makrys wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Yea, Jesica marizan replied to a persons message on twiter.
i dont remember what the  guy said,he said at the end "to bad theres no gameplay in the EC"
Jesica then replied"i dont know where you got that from,ooooooo whhaatt?

Yes. But people usually just deny that with the usual, "Merizan cannot be trusted".

Which I find funny because if Merizan were to come out and say, "Hey guys, nice try and all, but the IT isn't true". Everyone would be up in arms screaming, and rubbing it in our faces. You know they would.

Love the anti-IT hypocrisy.

that's actually made me do a double-take, I never saw the source... So it was just a rumour that there would be no gameplay?
Btw, no offense taken

[Makrys]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Yea, Jesica marizan replied to a persons message on twiter.
i dont remember what the  guy said,he said at the end "to bad theres no gameplay in the EC"
Jesica then replied"i dont know where you got that from,ooooooo whhaatt?

Yes. But people usually just deny that with the usual, "Merizan cannot be trusted".

Which I find funny because if Merizan were to come out and say, "Hey guys, nice try and all, but the IT isn't true". Everyone would be up in arms screaming, and rubbing it in our faces. You know they would.

Love the anti-IT hypocrisy.

that's actually made me do a double-take, I never saw the source... So it was just a rumour that there would be no gameplay?
Btw, no offense taken

I have a link if you care to see it.

I have many links... *maniacal grin while rubbing hands together*

[munnellyladt]

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Makrys wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Makrys wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

Yeah well, so there won't be anything after the end.

It will be during the end.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It would be stupid to throw all optimism out the window based on one interview from ages ago.

Let's just focus on *new* information. Also, what are they gonna do, set EC before the ending? That's not exactly the point I'd say.

And what if Aria said she wouldn't try to take back Omega before the reapers are finished, maybe she gets a hint that helps her decide that she needs it back RIGHT NOW.

Would anyone think it'd be cool if Omega DLC somehow coincided with the ending? and maybe they're going to release Omega and EC DLC at the same time?  Coz they did say there wouldn't be anymore gameplay in the EC DLC. So that makes me suspicious of why it's taking so damn long!

Uh, when did they say the EC won't contain gameplay? 

No offense, but I'm getting tired of people assuming it won't and spreading that false information when Bioware has never confirmed or denied that it will. So unless I missed something big, they haven't said a thing about gameplay. 

And as I said earlier, it doesn't take months to make some cutscenes.

Yea, Jesica marizan replied to a persons message on twiter.
i dont remember what the  guy said,he said at the end "to bad theres no gameplay in the EC"
Jesica then replied"i dont know where you got that from,ooooooo whhaatt?

Yes. But people usually just deny that with the usual, "Merizan cannot be trusted".

Which I find funny because if Merizan were to come out and say, "Hey guys, nice try and all, but the IT isn't true". Everyone would be up in arms screaming, and rubbing it in our faces. You know they would.

Love the anti-IT hypocrisy.

that's actually made me do a double-take, I never saw the source... So it was just a rumour that there would be no gameplay?
Btw, no offense taken

I have a link if you care to see it.

I have many links... *maniacal grin while rubbing hands together*

what link?

Modifié par munnellyladt, 14 juin 2012 - 07:50 .

[Jadebaby]

Makrys wrote...

everything else snipped, I hate pyramids, sue me!

I have a link if you care to see it.

I have many links... *maniacal grin while rubbing hands together*

yes prease...

Modifié par Jade8aby88, 14 juin 2012 - 07:53 .

[Big Bad]

I just ventured out of this thread into the great wild, wild wasteland that is the ME3 Story discussion board. Man, I forgot how pissed off everybody is. I just want to give them all a hug and tell them to cheer up because good things are on the horizon. I pretty sure they'd look at me as if I were a lunatic if I did that. And perhaps they would be right...but I don't think so.

[Jadebaby]

Big Bad wrote...

I just ventured out of this thread into the great wild, wild wasteland that is the ME3 Story discussion board. Man, I forgot how pissed off everybody is. I just want to give them all a hug and tell them to cheer up because good things are on the horizon. I pretty sure they'd look at me as if I were a lunatic if I did that. And perhaps they would be right...but I don't think so.

You know, I'm actually the other way around, always checking the boards to see if there's any new info, and ocassionally jumping in here too. Maybe I should change my strategy. I start to get headaches now if i'm on BSN for too long...

Too much speculating!

[Makrys]

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Posting a link to this brave thread I created, in case anyone wants to chime in:

http://social.biowar...ndex/12575537/1

You posted a topic on the forum, not in the IT thread.

Prepare for innane stubbonness, stupidity, and 'I know everything, so everyone else should just leave'.

His name is Taboo-XX.

God that guy pisses me off. Good luck.

I've dealt with him before, so I'm prepared. He tried getting under my skin in my Stargazer scene thread. Didnt work there, wont work here. Free bumps, as far as I'm concerned. 

I have always hated know it alls. He is like the king of them among BSN.

Anything you say that contradicts him, he will just dismiss as if he knows something you don't. He can be a real ****** sometimes. I can't stand having to deal with him.

Did you see the thread the other day where I was trying to explain to him that there is no logical reason for Shepard to be up and walking around as if he's fine when he has a gun shot wound in his shoulder, and some sort of wound to his abdomen? Both of which were not sealed, and we were shown that the abdomen wound was bleeding profusely as should be the shoulder wound. I kept trying to explain to him how it made no sense that Shepard was unconscious one moment, and then the next he's sprinting. But he was being so stubborn and refusing to back down, sometimes acting as if I was trying to do nothing but insult him. Seriously, if you tell the guy he's wrong, he can get nasty.

Many others came in and aided my argument and solidified my point, and then he basically just turned coat and ran. Never saw him in there again.

Its just ridiculous. The guy has a real arrogance about him. There is just no need for that. 

I think a lot of people see it, too.

Modifié par Makrys, 14 juin 2012 - 08:00 .

[HellishFiend]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

I just ventured out of this thread into the great wild, wild wasteland that is the ME3 Story discussion board. Man, I forgot how pissed off everybody is. I just want to give them all a hug and tell them to cheer up because good things are on the horizon. I pretty sure they'd look at me as if I were a lunatic if I did that. And perhaps they would be right...but I don't think so.

You know, I'm actually the other way around, always checking the boards to see if there's any new info, and ocassionally jumping in here too. Maybe I should change my strategy. I start to get headaches now if i'm on BSN for too long...

Too much speculating!

Frankly I think there is too much anger and not enough speculating. I love the speculating part, which is why I spend most of my time in this thread. 

[Turbo_J]

If I'm not playing the game, working or sleeping, I'm in here. I don't even go to the Liara thread anymore. Too much hate and depression; and most don't want to listen to reason or be encouraged to be hopeful. I guess some people like misery more.

[HellishFiend]

Makrys wrote...

I have always hated know it alls. He is like the king of them among BSN.

Anything you say that contradicts him, he will just dismiss as if he knows something you don't. He's a ******. Honestly, he is. I can't stand having to deal with him.

Did you see the thread the other day where I was trying to explain to him that there is no logical reason for Shepard to be up and walking around as if he's fine when he has a gun shot wound in his shoulder, and some sort of wound to his abdomen? Both of which were not sealed, and we were shown that the abdomen wound was bleeding profusely as should be the shoulder wound. I kept trying to explain to him how it made no sense that Shepard was unconscious one moment, and then the next he's sprinting. But he was being so stubborn and refusing to back down, sometimes acting as if I was trying to do nothing but insult him. Seriously, if you tell the guy he's wrong, he can get nasty.

Many others came in and aided my argument and solidified my point, and then he basically just turned coat and ran. Never saw him in there again.

Its just ridiculous. The guy has a real arrogance about him. There is just no need for that. 

I think a lot of people see it, too.

I did see that thread, and I also obviously agree with the points you raised. What you have to do is assign appropriate weight to the statements (or exlamations, in this case) made in reply to your topic. If someone is fundamentally opposed to not only the specific idea you're suggesting, but general idea, concepts, and context behind it, you should assign it less weight than someone that is obviously being objective on the matter. Thus you suffer less frustration.