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[estebanus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

this thread sometimes... seriously...

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY OF POOPTHESIS, MORTAL?!

[paxxton]

Bill Casey wrote...

What if Shepard peed into the beam?

Since we are talking about biological needs. What about Shepard doing this into the beam:

Modifié par paxxton, 14 juin 2012 - 10:54 .

[BatmanTurian]

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The Illusive man had extensive
implantation done, this only occurred after the indoctrination had begun
working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch Benezia's ability to retain
some control after becoming severely fatigued.  I'd love to hear what
others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 14 juin 2012 - 10:54 .

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY OF POOPTHESIS, MORTAL?!

bableh

[Jadebaby]

paxxton wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

What if Shepard peed into the beam?

Since we are talking about biological needs. What about Shepard doing this into the beam:

The only time roller-coasters are scary. If you're ever near one and you hear people scream like crazy, you know it's because someone just threw-up on them.

Advice, don't watch the Mass Effect 3 ending before going on a rollercoaster.

Sorry for the bad joke, just trying to relate it back.

[MaximizedAction]

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

Modifié par MaximizedAction, 14 juin 2012 - 10:55 .

[estebanus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY OF POOPTHESIS, MORTAL?!

bableh

ok ok, I'll stop!

[Arian Dynas]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...

What if I poured a bucket of water in there? Would I turn all organics into mostly water? What a horrible fate!

No, i think they'd be a hybrid of bucket and water.. err ... somehow...

Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!

[BatmanTurian]

estebanus wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

estebanus wrote...

HOW DARE YOU QUESTION THE ARTISTIC INTEGRITY OF POOPTHESIS, MORTAL?!

bableh

ok ok, I'll stop!

it was funny but the poop and stuff was like wtf. Never seen the thread go that overboard.

[ThisOneIsPunny]

masster blaster wrote...

Corik wrote...

Guys... If we get a "hospital ending" like I said... I would be the happiest living being in the damn universe. Damn, I'll even send Bioware a little gift XD

I say no hospital ending but a wedding ending after a few months have past
 Shepard finale get's married to his, or her LI, and cinematics after the wedding, and at the end of the credits the Stargazzer sence is replaced with Shepard playing with his, or her children.

But if He, or she has no LI  Shepard wakes up at a hospital so there.

I second this.
Wedding on a dead reaper with Zaeed as the best man covered in husk guts and Garrus calibrating the cake. Kirrahe gives an uplifting speech that lasts several hours before the vows are finally said. Aethyta drinks all the alcohol, which she was also serving, and hits on Samara for the latter part of the after-ceremony. Liara does her best to reign her father in, but hell if any of it's getting across. Joker and EDI share a nice dance before she steps on his foot. Wrex and Grunt tear up the dancefloor. Literally. The Normandy's stockpile of medigel would vastly dwindle that day.


And everyone forgot to invite Jacob.

[Jadebaby]

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The Illusive man had extensive
implantation done, this only occurred after the indoctrination had begun
working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch Benezia's ability to retain
some control after becoming severely fatigued.  I'd love to hear what
others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

The thing that bothers me more is that they have to write a couple of paragraphs to ask like 3 questions.

[Gernbuster]

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

Once more I get the feeling, that the people who do actually know the ME franchise quit well, believe in IT, while the people with less ME refering knowledge are against IT.

[BatmanTurian]

MaximizedAction wrote...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

Most of BSN fails the test before they've even begun.

[byne]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...

What if I poured a bucket of water in there? Would I turn all organics into mostly water? What a horrible fate!

No, i think they'd be a hybrid of bucket and water.. err ... somehow...

Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!

An ice unicycle? And here I thought an ice menorah was the worst thing you could pick.

[Jadebaby]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...

What if I poured a bucket of water in there? Would I turn all organics into mostly water? What a horrible fate!

No, i think they'd be a hybrid of bucket and water.. err ... somehow...

Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!

LOL!

I did not see that coming, how random. Have the best laughs in this thread.

[Arian Dynas]

MaximizedAction wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

And to get the official IDT signature, one must pass and get their certification.

[Gernbuster]

MaximizedAction wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

sign.

[Jadebaby]

Gernbuster wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

Once more I get the feeling, that the people who do actually know the ME franchise quit well, believe in IT, while the people with less ME refering knowledge are against IT.

Or are just really pesimestic.

[Jadebaby]

Gernbuster wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

sign.

+1, do it!

[paxxton]

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The Illusive man had extensive
implantation done, this only occurred after the indoctrination had begun
working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch Benezia's ability to retain
some control after becoming severely fatigued.  I'd love to hear what
others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

Actually, there's one good point. Bleeding profusely makes your blood pressure lower. That in turn influences the brain and confuses your thoughts. tha might explain why Shepard does ask only simple concrete questions.

Modifié par paxxton, 14 juin 2012 - 11:01 .

[BatmanTurian]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

The thing that bothers me more is that they have to write a couple of paragraphs to ask like 3 questions.

What bothers me more than that is SubAstris is in there playing the same stupid tune he always does:


"So they try to indoctrinate him, give up, try and kill him instead,
fail, and then try indoctrination again? Seems awfully convaluted, you
would expect the Reapers to stick to their guns. Why not try and
indoctrinate him just before they get to the beam? Like at shuttle crash"

It's like they simplify things to make it sound stupid. Anyone can do that with anything. The sun makes light that plants eat then animals eat plants and poop to help feed plants.

[Jadebaby]

Arian Dynas wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

oh look, it's this thread again...

" We should all know by now what Indoctrination Theory is, but for those
of you who don't yet, the theory is that at the end of Priority: Earth,
after Shepard is hit by a reaper's laser, Sheperd becomes indoctrinated
and the whole ending is just a hallucination.

Here's the problem
with that:  we need to look at the amount of time that Shepard's
actually spent around reapers.  It really isn't much compared to Saren
or The Illusive Man.  Saren, for example, traversed the galaxy inside of
Sovreign.  The Illusive Man had the human reaper larva's heart/brain in
the center of his main base for at least a few months.  In contrast,
Shepard often only spends a few hours near a reaper at any given time.  
Now, despite Sovreign's proximity on Vermire in ME1, Vigil later says
that he, "does not detect the taint of indoctrination" on Shepard.  

So,
with that established, the question now is "how would Shepard have
become indoctrinated that much in such a short amount of time, while
still retaining much of his sanity?"  Admittedly his actions at the end
are a little strange, but yours would be too if you were bleeding out
that exorbitantly.  That said, I do understand that some fans would like
to believe that there

While I concede that both Saren and The
Illusive man had extensive implantation done, this only occurred after
the indoctrination had begun working.  Also worth noting was Matriarch
Benezia's ability to retain some control after becoming severely
fatigued.  I'd love to hear what others think, however. " 

It's like they're just phoning in the same arguments over and over again...

That makes me think. Maybe we should introduce some sort of degree for Indoctrinationists:
Everyone who wishes to achieve such a degree has to pass a short test. A few arguments with errors in it, like the one above, and the examinee has to correctly spot the errors and correct them.
In short: a simulated debate with a literalist.

I got the idea because I observe that I'm slowly starting to spot such standard wrong understandings of the ME codex and in-game evidence.

And to get the official IDT signature, one must pass and get their certification.

That would be SO awesome, too bad they could just copy/paste n steal it.

[Turbo_J]

Hellish, I meant to ask. Did you take a close look at the Reaper remains when on Cronos. Almost every portion of the carcass is embedded with circuitry. It's completely integrated into the superstructure of the thing. Good place for little infrasonic and ultrasonic programs to hide, even when for all intents and purposes, the Reaper as a whole is dead.

Modifié par Turbo_J, 14 juin 2012 - 11:00 .

[Arian Dynas]

Jade8aby88 wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...

What if I poured a bucket of water in there? Would I turn all organics into mostly water? What a horrible fate!

No, i think they'd be a hybrid of bucket and water.. err ... somehow...

Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!

LOL!

I did not see that coming, how random. Have the best laughs in this thread.

[BatmanTurian]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Jade8aby88 wrote...

byne wrote...

What if I poured a bucket of water in there? Would I turn all organics into mostly water? What a horrible fate!

No, i think they'd be a hybrid of bucket and water.. err ... somehow...

Wonder Twin Powers, Activate!