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[HellishFiend]

I should add that normally one could argue that it's simply the difference between the brain/heart that explains which low EMS choice you are offered, however that doesnt add up for a couple of reasons.

Foremost, as I've pointed out recently, Crucible assets are in no way tangibly related to the choices available to you. It is 100% based on your EMS value, not the individual assets. Secondly, the Catalyst's attitude is very telling in this regard. Why would he care if you only have one option instead of three? Something is disappointing him. In fact, the only thing that prevents him from being disappointed and contemptuous is if your EMS is high enough to have Synthesis available. And that, coupled with how strongly he nudges you towards picking Synthesis, implies that he has something to gain from you picking it.

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Do we know if Shepard is a fan of RvB? It's quite possible that scene influenced his hallucination. 

chess!! when shepard  plays chess, he says thats what he would do! so thats what he dreams!!!!!!! 

do I sound crazy? or smart..... or both? lol

What the... I dont even... 

I think you may be on to something here. 

I brought this up 200 pages ago and it was dismissed. WTF?

You did? I apologize. Normally I'm pretty good about not missing things.  

If I responded on it and didnt agree, I must not have understood properly.

Modifié par HellishFiend, 15 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[Dwailing]

Big G13 wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Do we know if Shepard is a fan of RvB? It's quite possible that scene influenced his hallucination. 

chess!! when shepard  plays chess, he says thats what he would do! so thats what he dreams!!!!!!! 

do I sound crazy? or smart..... or both? lol

What the... I dont even... 

I think you may be on to something here. 

I brought this up 200 pages ago and it was dismissed. WTF?

sexism, pure and simple. Female avatars get no respect.

Nah, we respect you females avatars.  Look at Megumi and estebanus.  Anywho, I'm guessing that the other speculations were seemingly more pressing at the time.  It's a bit of a slow period, so this sort of thing is more likely to be acknowledged.  Or something like that, anyway. 

Modifié par Dwailing, 15 juin 2012 - 04:01 .

[Big G13]

Dwailing wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, music is powerful stuff.  Have you heard Reignite?  The Mass Effect tribute?  It moves me to tears everytime I watch it, too.  It also reminds me of why we keep holding the line here.  

Yeah, I've heard it, it's an amazing song. I dont like the video though. Something about her facial expression while she sings is just bothersome to me. 

Eh, it doesn't bother me.  Of course, usually, I'm too busy watching the ME footage to look at her.   I tear up through all of it, but that part where it flashes through Shep's various squadmates always gets me.  I was singing, and my voice cracked when I came to that part.  I can't believe that this is the end.  I want to see what happens to my squadmates.  Actually, scratch that, I NEED to see what happened to my FRIENDS.

speaking of reignite, does that cloud mass on Earth around 1:20 resemble the RL photos of 'the face on Mars' or is it just me.

[Dwailing]

Big G13 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, music is powerful stuff.  Have you heard Reignite?  The Mass Effect tribute?  It moves me to tears everytime I watch it, too.  It also reminds me of why we keep holding the line here.  

Yeah, I've heard it, it's an amazing song. I dont like the video though. Something about her facial expression while she sings is just bothersome to me. 

Eh, it doesn't bother me.  Of course, usually, I'm too busy watching the ME footage to look at her.   I tear up through all of it, but that part where it flashes through Shep's various squadmates always gets me.  I was singing, and my voice cracked when I came to that part.  I can't believe that this is the end.  I want to see what happens to my squadmates.  Actually, scratch that, I NEED to see what happened to my FRIENDS.

speaking of reignite, does that cloud mass on Earth around 1:20 resemble the RL photos of 'the face on Mars' or is it just me.

Uh, I don't really see anything, but it's after midnight here, so my eyes are probably pretty tired.

[HellishFiend]

Big Bad wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 http://social.biowar...2383/2#12583078 

Dont lose your cool...

You know me well enough, Hellish. I can only take so much stupid before I lose my lid. 

Now I have to find it again... 

Just come back here and read a few posts if you feel yourself losing it. 

Remember, we arent responsible for the opinions of others. 

To quote TIM: "I'm certainly not looking for your approval."

But to also quote "TIM":  "I need you to believe!":P

One was the real TIM, and according to our beliefs, one was the influence of indoctrination. 

[Dwailing]

HellishFiend wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 http://social.biowar...2383/2#12583078 

Dont lose your cool...

You know me well enough, Hellish. I can only take so much stupid before I lose my lid. 

Now I have to find it again... 

Just come back here and read a few posts if you feel yourself losing it. 

Remember, we arent responsible for the opinions of others. 

To quote TIM: "I'm certainly not looking for your approval."

But to also quote "TIM":  "I need you to believe!":P

One was the real TIM, and according to our beliefs, one was the influence of indoctrination. 

But which was the real one?  jk, jk

[MegaSovereign]

HellishFiend wrote...

MegaSovereign wrote...

Does IT have a solid explanation as to why you're locked out of Control/Synthesis with low EMS?

I'm still contemplating whether or not the IT could actually be what Bioware intended all along but it's small stuff like that that still leaves me with doubt.

If you were only offered Destroy with EMS, we would have a difficult time figuring it out, but fortunately BW gave us a fantastic clue: the fact that you are offered only control if you have low EMS and saved the collector base instead of destroying it at the end of ME2. 

This powerfully suggests that for some reason the Catalyst only offers you the choice that fits your natural inclination based on that particular choice. It makes sense, too, because while it doesnt heavily impact ME3 yet, that was a huge decision for Commander Shepard from a moral standpoint.

Do we exploit the technology of our enemies and try to control it? Or do we reject it in favor of our core values as a species?

It is currently believed that in a low EMS situation where you only have one choice and are treated with contempt by the catalyst, it symbolizes one of two possibilities: Either the Reapers no longer care about indoctrinating you, thus they only offer you the choice that matches your natural inclination, or that your willpower and belief is too low to resist indoctrination at all, so you arent offered a choice of any kind. 

I..don't know.

I still can't wrap my head around this low EMS one choice thing.

[HellishFiend]

MegaSovereign wrote...


I..don't know.

I still can't wrap my head around this low EMS one choice thing.

I added some more to it, if that helps. Its posted at the top of this page. 

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

llbountyhunter wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Do we know if Shepard is a fan of RvB? It's quite possible that scene influenced his hallucination. 

chess!! when shepard  plays chess, he says thats what he would do! so thats what he dreams!!!!!!! 

do I sound crazy? or smart..... or both? lol

What the... I dont even... 

I think you may be on to something here. 

I brought this up 200 pages ago and it was dismissed. WTF?

You did? I apologize. Normally I'm pretty good about not missing things.  

If I responded on it and didnt agree, I must not have understood properly.

As I posted a few seconds later... which can be a page here.... BTW - it's not the game, but what Sam says about playing by someone elses rules...

Modifié par Turbo_J, 15 juin 2012 - 04:10 .

[Makrys]

Aight, guys, I'm off for the night. Bon chance with the clue digging. I be back soon. *flies away*

Modifié par Makrys, 15 juin 2012 - 04:09 .

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...


As I posed a few seconds later... which can be a page here.... BTW - it's not the game, but what Sam says about playing by someone elses rules...

I see. If I did notice your post, that might have been why I missed your point. Difference in the way the sexes think, perhaps? When bountyhunter said that line about "doing what he dreams" in regards to his strategy in chess, it clicked for me instantly that he would employ and play out that same strategy in a dream. 

An endless stream of pawns being mowed down by a tactically superior opponent. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 15 juin 2012 - 04:10 .

[Big G13]

Dwailing wrote...

Big G13 wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Dwailing wrote...

Yeah, music is powerful stuff.  Have you heard Reignite?  The Mass Effect tribute?  It moves me to tears everytime I watch it, too.  It also reminds me of why we keep holding the line here.  

Yeah, I've heard it, it's an amazing song. I dont like the video though. Something about her facial expression while she sings is just bothersome to me. 

Eh, it doesn't bother me.  Of course, usually, I'm too busy watching the ME footage to look at her.   I tear up through all of it, but that part where it flashes through Shep's various squadmates always gets me.  I was singing, and my voice cracked when I came to that part.  I can't believe that this is the end.  I want to see what happens to my squadmates.  Actually, scratch that, I NEED to see what happened to my FRIENDS.

speaking of reignite, does that cloud mass on Earth around 1:20 resemble the RL photos of 'the face on Mars' or is it just me.

Uh, I don't really see anything, but it's after midnight here, so my eyes are probably pretty tired.

It's the large white cloud mass center screen in the video of Earth. But remember, I've watched this video dozens of times (love it) and I only noticed it a couple of weeks ago. So it is possible I'm just loosing it a little.:happy:

[draken-heart]

i took a second look at the breath Scene, and noticed the background (i know weird)



is it just me, or does that background look like it is part of the Citadel?

Modifié par draken-heart, 15 juin 2012 - 04:14 .

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...


As I posed a few seconds later... which can be a page here.... BTW - it's not the game, but what Sam says about playing by someone elses rules...

I see. If I did notice your post, that might have been why I missed your point. Difference in the way the sexes think, perhaps? When bountyhunter said that line about "doing what he dreams" in regards to his strategy in chess, it clicked for me instantly that he would employ and play out that same strategy in a dream. 

An endless stream of pawns being mowed down by a tactically superior opponent. 

Yeah, I got that. I actually posited; "Why chess? in ME3. There has to be a link somewhere." And now we have that link!

That came out in a Liara voice... I play this game too much.

[MegaSovereign]

On the Coates theory:

I don't remember him being douchey. He was a bit pessimistic but I just assumed that was because of how strong of a force the Reapers are.

[Dwailing]

draken-heart wrote...

i took a second look at the breath Scene, and noticed the background (i know weird)



is it just me, or does that background look like it is part of the Citadel?

Uh, that actually looks like a bookshelf.  To me, anyway.

[Turbo_J]

draken-heart wrote...

i took a second look at the breath Scene, and noticed the background (i know weird)



is it just me, or does that background look like it is part of the Citadel?

"We have dismissed that claim."

Seriously, though. It can't really be identified, and there is no concrete or concrete like substances on the Citadel.

[HellishFiend]

draken-heart wrote...

i took a second look at the breath Scene, and noticed the background (i know weird)



is it just me, or does that background look like it is part of the Citadel?

Inconclusive, but many of us think it's more likely to be shelving from London than anything we see on the Citadel. 

[HellishFiend]

MegaSovereign wrote...

On the Coates theory:

I don't remember him being douchey. He was a bit pessimistic but I just assumed that was because of how strong of a force the Reapers are.

I agree, and I felt the same way on my first non-spoiler playthrough. Like many, I thought he was "off" in a "who is this guy and who does he think he is?" kind of way, but didnt take it beyond that. However if you consider what he says in his theory about how absolutely nobody calls him out on his overtly negative attitude, which is very atypical, it starts to look like a theme. 

That is moderately compelling on its own, but when you add the infrasound discovery to it, it's looking pretty darn convincing. 

[Big Bad]

HellishFiend wrote...

Big Bad wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Makrys wrote...

 http://social.biowar...2383/2#12583078 

Dont lose your cool...

You know me well enough, Hellish. I can only take so much stupid before I lose my lid. 

Now I have to find it again... 

Just come back here and read a few posts if you feel yourself losing it. 

Remember, we arent responsible for the opinions of others. 

To quote TIM: "I'm certainly not looking for your approval."

But to also quote "TIM":  "I need you to believe!":P

One was the real TIM, and according to our beliefs, one was the influence of indoctrination. 

Indeed, hence my use of the quotation marks.  I was just being silly! 

In all seriousness, though, TIM's bizarre and contradictory behavior at the end should be a major red flag to people that something strange is going on.

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...


"We have dismissed that claim."

Seriously, though. It can't really be identified, and there is no concrete or concrete like substances on the Citadel.

[Salient Archer]

@HellishFiend: I'm revisiting my EMS/Willpower comparison from months back to update, finess it and flesh it out some more, especially now that I've had more time to reflect on it (and it's get brought up so damn often ). Is there anything you personally feel I might have missed?

EDIT: Also, anyone else who hasn't read it or has and would like to debate it or add to it please feel free to let me know your thoughts. You can find it here

Modifié par Salient Archer, 15 juin 2012 - 04:22 .

[Arian Dynas]

I hate this ****ing pos desktop, I hate it hate it hate it hate it.

What did I miss messing around with this piece of ****?

[HellishFiend]

Big Bad wrote...

Indeed, hence my use of the quotation marks.  I was just being silly! 

In all seriousness, though, TIM's bizarre and contradictory behavior at the end should be a major red flag to people that something strange is going on.

Yep, barely a few hours ago he looked human and was "done helping you."

Now he looks like a husk and "needs you to believe"?