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[HellishFiend]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

By having fun, I meant help defend our people. I'm basically over there just defending you good people because it's within my good morals, and integrity. What can I say? I love you guys.

Well for what it's worth, I appreciate the thought. But it's really not necessary. It doesnt bother me one bit. The contents of the EC are set in stone already. I'm enjoying the hell out of this speculating and clue-finding. He's over there throwing around nasty adjectives trying to make people feel bad. I honestly pity whatever unfortunate situation he's dealing with in real life that makes him feel he needs to act that way. 

[Allaiya]

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

[HellishFiend]

mrfinke wrote...

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

Did you receive Liara's gift before leaving the FOB?

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Anyone else ever hear the laughter on board the Normandy? I never noticed it before it was pointed out, but I can definitely hear it now.

Yes. In the lounge. Possibly one time in my cabin; I was like WTF? And I believe on deck 3 in Thanks old room or just outside the door. Not sure it it means anything. I only caught this when wearing headphones and verified it the last few days when looking of oddities around the Ship... That's when I found the citadel ward cube map in the lounge.

I really just thought of it as ambiant noise. I tried hard to hear whispers, but nadda.

It's seriously creeping me out. It's like I'm just waiting for some Silent Hill stuff to happen when I round a corner. 

You know, we should be careful. Staring at things like walls and reflections and consoles, listening to them talk... that's a major sign of indoctrination. Researching indoctrination obsessively in itself is a sure fire way to get your ass Indoctrinated.

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

Did you receive Liara's gift before leaving the FOB?

Screen bob or just weapon? The weapon will bob all the time everywhere.
It's 'normal'. However, if you can see a bit of bob at the screen edges,
that's not 'normal'.

[spotlessvoid]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Anyone else ever hear the laughter on board the Normandy? I never noticed it before it was pointed out, but I can definitely hear it now.

Yes. In the lounge. Possibly one time in my cabin; I was like WTF? And I believe on deck 3 in Thanks old room or just outside the door. Not sure it it means anything. I only caught this when wearing headphones and verified it the last few days when looking of oddities around the Ship... That's when I found the citadel ward cube map in the lounge.

I really just thought of it as ambiant noise. I tried hard to hear whispers, but nadda.

It's seriously creeping me out. It's like I'm just waiting for some Silent Hill stuff to happen when I round a corner. 

You know, we should be careful. Staring at things like walls and reflections and consoles, listening to them talk... that's a major sign of indoctrination. Researching indoctrination obsessively in itself is a sure fire way to get your ass Indoctrinated.

Meta meta indoctrination? Impossible

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, we should be careful. Staring at things like walls and reflections and consoles, listening to them talk... that's a major sign of indoctrination. Researching indoctrination obsessively in itself is a sure fire way to get your ass Indoctrinated.

But... the more control the Reapers exert... the less capable the subject becomes... 

So we dont have to worry unless we start to become less capable, right? 

[Allaiya]

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

Did you receive Liara's gift before leaving the FOB?

Yes, I talked with all my squadmates and accepted Liara's gift. I have an imported Shepard. I did all the side missions I could, got peace with geth/quarians, cured the genophage etc but I do not have access to online/multiplayer so couldn't get over the required EMS to get the breath scene.

[HellishFiend]

mrfinke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

Did you receive Liara's gift before leaving the FOB?

Yes, I talked with all my squadmates and accepted Liara's gift. I have an imported Shepard. I did all the side missions I could, got peace with geth/quarians, cured the genophage etc but I do not have access to online/multiplayer so couldn't get over the required EMS to get the breath scene.

Hrm. That could mess up our running theory that it's directly related to Liara's gift. But maybe that isnt the only factor...

[deltacypresss]

HellishFiend wrote...

deltacypresss wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...



Hey i saw a few of your posts a while ago,
what was that hull breach you were talking about?

Theres a hole that leads out into space on Cronos station, and we're trying to determine if it's intentional or a glitch due to an unloaded area.

i'm thinking its intentional. i thought it was on my first playthrough.

I've got some footage that could make it go either way, honestly. It does appear to be due to an unloaded area... however, I have very strong reason to believe that BW knew about it and chose to leave it there. 

going to have to disagree with you on that one. you board the station the arm. this part could very well be still on that part of the station. however, i do remember you talking about the sounds of battle, and being unable to hear them at that point of the mission.

They probably left it there as you have to go out of your way to reach it.

[Allaiya]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

I know this was a few pages back, but I replayed through priority: Earth & I do indeed notice a slight weapon bob after the FOB.

Did you receive Liara's gift before leaving the FOB?

Screen bob or just weapon? The weapon will bob all the time everywhere.
It's 'normal'. However, if you can see a bit of bob at the screen edges,
that's not 'normal'.

It's definitely the screen. Also, I am playing on a 360 if that matters at all.

[spotlessvoid]

HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, we should be careful. Staring at things like walls and reflections and consoles, listening to them talk... that's a major sign of indoctrination. Researching indoctrination obsessively in itself is a sure fire way to get your ass Indoctrinated.

But... the more control the Reapers exert... the less capable the subject becomes... 

So we dont have to worry unless we start to become less capable, right? 

Will...not...make...Priestley...capitol.....ship....joke

Modifié par spotlessvoid, 16 juin 2012 - 03:41 .

[Dwailing]

 You know, I've been thinking about the Control only scenario, and I had an idea that I wanted to share.  In the Control only scenario if you saved the Collector base, Starbinger specifically says that Shepard wants to control the Reapers.  Since this is all a hallucination, brought on by the Reapers invading Shepard's mind, my guess is that since Shepard saved the Collector base, deep down, he actually wants to be able to control the Reapers, it's just that he thought TIM was nuts to think he could do it.  Basically, he WANTS to control the Reapers, but he BELIEVES that it isn't possible.  If you listen to some of his dialogue with TIM, it actually seems that Shepard can be a bit ambivalent about whether he actually WANTS to destroy the Reapers or not.  I think it's more that he doesn't think controling them can be done than he actually opposes the idea, depending on some of the choices you make for dialogue.  Does this sound plausible?  Also, I should point out that, if you listen to the dialogue at the end, it ALSO sounds more like he thinks TIM is nuts for thinking that he can control the Reapers rather than actually opposing the concept.  Depending on what dialogue you choose, of course.  Or maybe I'm just nuts. 

Modifié par Dwailing, 16 juin 2012 - 03:44 .

[HellishFiend]

deltacypresss wrote...


going to have to disagree with you on that one. you board the station the arm. this part could very well be still on that part of the station. however, i do remember you talking about the sounds of battle, and being unable to hear them at that point of the mission.

They probably left it there as you have to go out of your way to reach it.

Well, you'll see what I mean when I put together the video. Hopefully it wont take more than a day or two. 

To summarize, I determined that the "hull breach" is located in the same direction you just came from. An analogy would be like if you step into a room, turn around, and the room you just came from is gone. That's essentially what we have going on here. The area that used to be there got unloaded from memory. But I do have strong reason to believe BW knew that gash in the wall would lead out into open space because they added in the "power misdirection" feature when you shoot powers at the hole from most angles. 

[spotlessvoid]

Dwailing wrote...

 You know, I've been thinking about the Control only scenario, and I had an idea that I wanted to share.  In the Control only scenario if you saved the Collector base, Starbinger specifically says that Shepard wants to control the Reapers.  Since this is all a hallucination, brought on by the Reapers invading Shepard's mind, my guess is that since Shepard saved the Collector base, deep down, he actually wants to be able to control the Reapers, it's just that he thought TIM was nuts to think he could do it.  Basically, he WANTS to control the Reapers, but he BELIEVES that it isn't possible.  If you listen to some of his dialogue with TIM, it actually seems that Shepard can be a bit ambivalent about whether he actually WANTS to destroy the Reapers or not.  I think it's more that he doesn't think controling them can be done than he actually opposes the idea, depending on some of the choices you make for dialogue.  Does this sound plausible?

Makes sense
I think the only thing Shepard is truly certain of is his absolute love of steak

[HellishFiend]

Dwailing wrote...

 You know, I've been thinking about the Control only scenario, and I had an idea that I wanted to share.  In the Control only scenario if you saved the Collector base, Starbinger specifically says that Shepard wants to control the Reapers.  Since this is all a hallucination, brought on by the Reapers invading Shepard's mind, my guess is that since Shepard saved the Collector base, deep down, he actually wants to be able to control the Reapers, it's just that he thought TIM was nuts to think he could do it.  Basically, he WANTS to control the Reapers, but he BELIEVES that it isn't possible.  If you listen to some of his dialogue with TIM, it actually seems that Shepard can be a bit ambivalent about whether he actually WANTS to destroy the Reapers or not.  I think it's more that he doesn't think controling them can be done than he actually opposes the idea, depending on some of the choices you make for dialogue.  Does this sound plausible?  Also, I should point out that, if you listen to the dialogue at the end, it ALSO sounds more like he thinks TIM is nuts for thinking that he can control the Reapers rather than actually opposing the concept.  Depending on what dialogue you choose, of course.  Or maybe I'm just nuts. 

It does. I suggested something very similar to that to Salient to put in his EMS analysis. And it's also somewhat supported by the fact that the renegade dialog when conversing with huskified TIM mostly involves Shepard urging TIM to go on ahead and Control the Reapers and get it over with. 

[BatmanTurian]

BleedingUranium wrote...

Hey guys, my brother recently imformed me that he's able to travel to Chronos Station on the galaxy map before he's supposed to know where it is.  He hasn't even done Horizon yet this playthrough, and CS is there, he can "enter orbit" and everything, there's just no "press A to start mission" (obviously). It's not really IT, but we love glitches and bugs here, so has anyone else heard of this happening?

wanted to answer this in case anyone hadn't, even though it's 3 hours late. Yes I encountered this bug as well and thought it was wierd.

Also, while we're talking about ages in the thread, I'm going to be 32 in two months.

[Allaiya]

HellishFiend wrote...

Hrm. That could mess up our running theory that it's directly related to Liara's gift. But maybe that isnt the only factor...

So it is for sure not related to EMS at all?

[Salient Archer]

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

Modifié par Salient Archer, 16 juin 2012 - 03:57 .

[HellishFiend]

mrfinke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hrm. That could mess up our running theory that it's directly related to Liara's gift. But maybe that isnt the only factor...

So it is for sure not related to EMS at all?

We dont know that for sure yet. We just figured out today that its possible to not have the minor view bob for the no-mans-land/missile sequence. Previously we thought it was in every playthrough. Could take some work to figure out what causes it or protects you from it. I had tons of EMS and still had the minor view bob in my most recent test run. 

[BatmanTurian]

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how you do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

This is my personal opinion. I think from the moment Shepard enters the room where the baby reaper is in Chronos, the way Shepard views reality warps a little. It's barely noticable at first but it begins to become cumulative until it becomes full-blown wtf-ery in London and then the shuttle crash or the beam just sends it all over the edge. I don't think the " hallucination" (for lack of a better term) has a cut-and-dry beginning. I think it comes in spurts and definitely starts ratcheting up on Earth.

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

I think the most popular theory right now is that Cronos all the way up to the Mako crash are subject to partial hallucination, kind of like a waking dream, or schizophrenia. If you've ever seen A Beautiful Mind, that is a good example. I think that Shepard is knocked out at the Mako crash instead of by Harby's beam, and everything starting from the run to the beam is a full blown hallucination. Everything before the Mako crash is just partially hallucinated. At least thats the running theory I'm going by right now. 

It's exciting stuff, because it gives us a lot more material to look at while we're waiting for the EC. :happy:

[UrgentArchengel]

So many Sociopaths on the boards these days. It feels nice to be away from such chaos. Anyway, what's new? Any cool new revelations?

[Turbo_J]

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hrm. That could mess up our running theory that it's directly related to Liara's gift. But maybe that isnt the only factor...

So it is for sure not related to EMS at all?

We dont know that for sure yet. We just figured out today that its possible to not have the minor view bob for the no-mans-land/missile sequence. Previously we thought it was in every playthrough. Could take some work to figure out what causes it or protects you from it. I had tons of EMS and still had the minor view bob in my most recent test run. 

Were you playing a Vanguard? They can bug out sometimes causing the screen to continue to wobble. It's harsher than view bob by several times.

[HellishFiend]

BatmanTurian wrote...

This is my personal opinion. I think from the moment Shepard enters the room where the baby reaper is in Chronos, the way Shepard views reality warps a little. It's barely noticable at first but it begins to become cumulative until it becomes full-blown wtf-ery in London and then the shuttle crash or the beam just sends it all over the edge. I don't think the " hallucination" (for lack of a better term) has a cut-and-dry beginning. I think it comes in spurts and definitely starts ratcheting up on Earth.

That's a solid possibility. During my investigation into Cronos, the first oddity I can find starts at the labs. The labs lead directly into the area with the protoreaper.