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[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

Were you playing a Vanguard? They can bug out sometimes causing the screen to continue to wobble. It's harsher than view bob by several times.

No, Infiltrator. And it was definitely the minor view bob from Megumi's video. 

[HellishFiend]

UrgentArchengel wrote...

So many Sociopaths on the boards these days. It feels nice to be away from such chaos. Anyway, what's new? Any cool new revelations?

Isnt it funny how they totally ignore my posts? Cant argue with the almighty Turian air quotes. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 16 juin 2012 - 04:06 .

[spotlessvoid]

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

[BatmanTurian]

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

I think the most popular theory right now is that Cronos all the way up to the Mako crash are subject to partial hallucination, kind of like a waking dream, or schizophrenia. If you've ever seen A Beautiful Mind, that is a good example. I think that Shepard is knocked out at the Mako crash instead of by Harby's beam, and everything starting from the run to the beam is a full blown hallucination. Everything before the Mako crash is just partially hallucinated. At least thats the running theory I'm going by right now. 

It's exciting stuff, because it gives us a lot more material to look at while we're waiting for the EC. :happy:

it seems we hold a similar view.

[BatmanTurian]

spotlessvoid wrote...

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

We have some interesting evidence that london isn't all face-value either at this point, which makes sense since we also found evidence that Coates is an Indoctrination Broadcasting machine and the Reapers and their minions are practically everywhere on Earth. The base is surrounded by Reaper forces..

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 16 juin 2012 - 04:09 .

[FellishBeast]

What's this laughter you're talking about?

Also, you guys should write an article every month summarizing your finds. I was on here 24/7 for a month and now I'm trying to have a life again and I can't keep up

[Arian Dynas]

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

I am torn between partial hallucination, culminating with the beam, which to be honest feels a bit cheap to me, since it makes us question EVERYTHING, and the other possibility I hold is the entirety of London is a hallucination Shepard has while in a comatose state, awaiting medical evac after the shuttle crashed on their way down to deal with the Hades Cannon.

[spotlessvoid]

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

We have some interesting evidence that london isn't all face-value either at this point, which makes sense since we also found evidence that Coates is an Indoctrination Broadcasting machine and the Reapers and their minions are practically everywhere on Earth. The base is surrounded by Reaper forces..

It's definitely compelling for many reasons, which is why I said the ONE thing is that visually, things aren't really obvious until post beam.

[HellishFiend]

FellishBeast wrote...

What's this laughter you're talking about?

Also, you guys should write an article every month summarizing your finds. I was on here 24/7 for a month and now I'm trying to have a life again and I can't keep up

There are some really weird, quiet laughing sounds on the crew deck of the Normandy. Creepy stuff. I'll see if I can track down the video for you.

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

What's this laughter you're talking about?

Also, you guys should write an article every month summarizing your finds. I was on here 24/7 for a month and now I'm trying to have a life again and I can't keep up

Perhaps we should have Arian write a newsletter.

We start getting that organized though, and the people on the fence will think we really are a cult.

[HellishFiend]

Found it:


Wear headphones or turn your speakers up really loud, because its very quiet.

[Dwailing]

I'm with what pretty much everyone is saying right now about when the hallucination starts. There are kinky elements of Priority: Earth that Shepard is probably hallucinating, but the REALLY bizarre stuff only starts after the crash. And I say after the crash rather than after the beam for two reasons. One: it explains why there are shrubs and trees from the dreams before Shepard is hit, and two: it saves Anderson from the indignity of using Sarge's tactics.

[HellishFiend]

BatmanTurian wrote...

We start getting that organized though, and the people on the fence will think we really are a cult.

Strangely enough I find myself not caring. We'll be vindicated when the EC comes out anyway. 

[HellishFiend]

Dwailing wrote...

I'm with what pretty much everyone is saying right now about when the hallucination starts. There are kinky elements of Priority: Earth that Shepard is probably hallucinating, but the REALLY bizarre stuff only starts after the crash. And I say after the crash rather than after the beam for two reasons. One: it explains why there are shrubs and trees from the dreams before Shepard is hit, and two: it saves Anderson from the indignity of using Sarge's tactics.

Yep, that, plus I think someone found the 2d pile of bodies during the run too. 

[Turbo_J]

BatmanTurian wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

I think the most popular theory right now is that Cronos all the way up to the Mako crash are subject to partial hallucination, kind of like a waking dream, or schizophrenia. If you've ever seen A Beautiful Mind, that is a good example. I think that Shepard is knocked out at the Mako crash instead of by Harby's beam, and everything starting from the run to the beam is a full blown hallucination. Everything before the Mako crash is just partially hallucinated. At least thats the running theory I'm going by right now. 

It's exciting stuff, because it gives us a lot more material to look at while we're waiting for the EC. :happy:

it seems we hold a similar view.

You know, I still go back to Cronos sometimes as a feasible start of full on hallucination. It would do a lot of things good, including but not limited to leading the allied fleet into a kill zone; which is hard not to undo. Other bad crap could be avoided as well. All the weirdness could be explained away... The color coded areas you found on the station Hellish... it's almost pushed me fully back to this point. Not even the fight with Kai Leng felt 'right'. It still may be only partial... but I don't know! Dammit.

[BatmanTurian]

spotlessvoid wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

We have some interesting evidence that london isn't all face-value either at this point, which makes sense since we also found evidence that Coates is an Indoctrination Broadcasting machine and the Reapers and their minions are practically everywhere on Earth. The base is surrounded by Reaper forces..

It's definitely compelling for many reasons, which is why I said the ONE thing is that visually, things aren't really obvious until post beam.

Well, I respectfully disagree since I found London to be surreal on my first playthrough. " You know I was born in London" Yeah, Anderson, you told me that like how many missions ago? And just wierd things like the art on the walls and Coates... god, Coates...

And the ending had a final, depressive, oppressive vibe. I understood that this was the end and people thought " damn, we might die. " But I felt like people should have been more pumped, more ready. Instead, it seemed like all of the characters were phoning it in. Everything about London rubbed me wrong even up to the Beam.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 16 juin 2012 - 04:19 .

[HellishFiend]

Turbo_J wrote...

You know, I still go back to Cronos sometimes as a feasible start of full on hallucination. It would do a lot of things good, including but not limited to leading the allied fleet into a kill zone; which is hard not to undo. Other bad crap could be avoided as well. All the weirdness could be explained away... The color coded areas you found on the station Hellish... it's almost pushed me fully back to this point. Not even the fight with Kai Leng felt 'right'. It still may be only partial... but I don't know! Dammit.

Cant rule anything out, but as BatmanTurian just pointed out on the last page, there is the protoreaper to consider. And I cant find any strangeness or oddities until we are literally right on the protoreaper's doorstep. 

So it's possible that the "red" area is really just a coincidence, but then you get to the protoreaper, and you encounter the color coding of the other two areas. At least, it seems to make sense that way. 

[Allaiya]

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

mrfinke wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Hrm. That could mess up our running theory that it's directly related to Liara's gift. But maybe that isnt the only factor...

So it is for sure not related to EMS at all?

We dont know that for sure yet. We just figured out today that its possible to not have the minor view bob for the no-mans-land/missile sequence. Previously we thought it was in every playthrough. Could take some work to figure out what causes it or protects you from it. I had tons of EMS and still had the minor view bob in my most recent test run. 

Were you playing a Vanguard? They can bug out sometimes causing the screen to continue to wobble. It's harsher than view bob by several times.

Nope, I was playing a sentinel.

[Dwailing]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's this laughter you're talking about?

Also, you guys should write an article every month summarizing your finds. I was on here 24/7 for a month and now I'm trying to have a life again and I can't keep up

There are some really weird, quiet laughing sounds on the crew deck of the Normandy. Creepy stuff. I'll see if I can track down the video for you.

Funny you should mention weird sounds. A few days ago, I was in ME2 in the stasis pod area, and I'm not quite sure what I heard, but I got this weird feeling of fear. It was probably just my over active imagination, but it was weird as all heck at the time. I wonder if there's anything like that in ME3...

[BatmanTurian]

HellishFiend wrote...

Found it:


Wear headphones or turn your speakers up really loud, because its very quiet.

I hear a hum, and laughter. The hum could be the guns primed. The laughter might be the crew, since that's the crew deck. Sure it sounds creepy, but it might be unintentionally creepy.

[BatmanTurian]

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Hey guys, riddle me this... if the whole London mission is a hallucination when and how did Shepard end up passed out in rubble in his damaged N7 armor? Keep in mind that his armor in the breath scene is in the same state as it was when he was limping to the beam as shown here.

So how and when do you each personally feel Shepard enters full blown hallucination? and if it's earlier then when Harbinger's beam hits him how do you feel he ended up in the predicament we see him in during the breath scene?

I am torn between partial hallucination, culminating with the beam, which to be honest feels a bit cheap to me, since it makes us question EVERYTHING, and the other possibility I hold is the entirety of London is a hallucination Shepard has while in a comatose state, awaiting medical evac after the shuttle crashed on their way down to deal with the Hades Cannon.

I find it harder to believe your second hypothesis, yet I can't rule it out as a possibility.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 16 juin 2012 - 04:26 .

[Allaiya]

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

We have some interesting evidence that london isn't all face-value either at this point, which makes sense since we also found evidence that Coates is an Indoctrination Broadcasting machine and the Reapers and their minions are practically everywhere on Earth. The base is surrounded by Reaper forces..

Woah, what is this evidence you speak of??  Especially on Coates, that guy always rubs me the wrong way.

Modifié par mrfinke, 16 juin 2012 - 04:26 .

[HellishFiend]

BatmanTurian wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Found it:


Wear headphones or turn your speakers up really loud, because its very quiet.

I hear a hum, and laughter. The hum could be the guns primed. The laughter might be the crew, since that's the crew deck. Sure it sounds creepy, but it might be unintentionally creepy.

IMO, that laughter is way too creepy, subtle, and untraceable to be ambient sounds.... They have no source.. Theyre the same volume no matter where you are on the crew deck. You never get closer or farther away from them. Someone also said they become more frequent as you progress through the game. 

[deltacypresss]

HellishFiend wrote...

deltacypresss wrote...


going to have to disagree with you on that one. you board the station the arm. this part could very well be still on that part of the station. however, i do remember you talking about the sounds of battle, and being unable to hear them at that point of the mission.

They probably left it there as you have to go out of your way to reach it.

Well, you'll see what I mean when I put together the video. Hopefully it wont take more than a day or two. 

To summarize, I determined that the "hull breach" is located in the same direction you just came from. An analogy would be like if you step into a room, turn around, and the room you just came from is gone. That's essentially what we have going on here. The area that used to be there got unloaded from memory. But I do have strong reason to believe BW knew that gash in the wall would lead out into open space because they added in the "power misdirection" feature when you shoot powers at the hole from most angles. 

that actually happens a lot in games. I remember that half life did it at least once.

and hey, fellow infiltrater here. and though implaying multi, it seems i can only unlock shotguns and vanguards.

[HellishFiend]

mrfinke wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

spotlessvoid wrote...

I guess my only thing would be that things aren't really surreal until after getting laser smacked by Harbinger

We have some interesting evidence that london isn't all face-value either at this point, which makes sense since we also found evidence that Coates is an Indoctrination Broadcasting machine and the Reapers and their minions are practically everywhere on Earth. The base is surrounded by Reaper forces..

Woah, what is this evidence you speak??  Especially on Coates, that guy always rubs me the wrong way.

Behold:

http://social.biowar...32/771#12581175