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I've been playing through the genophage story arc again and just finished my conversation with Eve about how she became a Korgan Shaman and I remembered that when I first played through that scene I really thought that both the crystal she hands you and her quote "Take it as a reminder, commander. In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." were going to relate directly to the end game somehow (as cheesy as that sounds).

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Agreed.

The war has just begun.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 16 juin 2012 - 07:42 .


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Salient Archer wrote...

I've been playing through the genophage story arc again and just finished my conversation with Eve about how she became a Korgan Shaman and I remembered that when I first played through that scene I really thought that both the crystal she hands you and her quote "Take it as a reminder, commander. In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." were going to relate directly to the end game somehow (as cheesy as that sounds).


*cough*

9 - Your Darkest Hour

[Shepard struggles to walk toward the beam or downed cables, his pistol shaking in his hand as he slowly approaches it. Shepard trips over a rock as he walks toward either the beam or the cables. Shepard does a faceplant in the sandy dirt, something bouncing out of an (amazingly) still intact pouch. Urdnot Bakara's crystal. It's nothing more than a crystal with a light source installed, hung on a chain, a simple gift... and yet so much more. Shepard stares at the little light, enraptured, Vigil starts playing, a short flash of all the faces of our friends and companions, Grunt, Joker, Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Hackett, Anderson, all of them plays by at high speed, superimposed over the image of Shepard staring down at the crystal, the light reflected in his eyes, which are now filled with tears, he crawls over to a pile of rubble, resting his back against a rock. Shepard calmly reaches down to the dropped Carnifex and places the barrel under his chin. Cut to black, gunshot. Go to 13.] 


Modifié par Arian Dynas, 16 juin 2012 - 07:43 .


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Hi all I am a firm believer in the I.T. theory, but I haven't read through all this thread
 so this may have been picked up earlier so sorry if im repeating old info.
I have recently replayed ME2 and came across this video of the indoctrinated cerberus team 
on board the derilict reaper
<iframe width="640" height="360" src="http://www.youtube.c...player_embedded" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Specificly interested in what the guy says from 3:40  "that thing, that grey thing, it disapeared when I looked straight at it, it came out of that wall, were we took of that panel"

As soon as I saw this, Shepherd seeing the star child in the air vent came to mind

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Hi guys. Sorry to ask but lots of new pages and too little time: Anything important in the last 13 hours?

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

I've been playing through the genophage story arc again and just finished my conversation with Eve about how she became a Korgan Shaman and I remembered that when I first played through that scene I really thought that both the crystal she hands you and her quote "Take it as a reminder, commander. In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." were going to relate directly to the end game somehow (as cheesy as that sounds).


*cough*

9 - Your Darkest Hour

[Shepard struggles to walk toward the beam or downed cables, his pistol shaking in his hand as he slowly approaches it. Shepard trips over a rock as he walks toward either the beam or the cables. Shepard does a faceplant in the sandy dirt, something bouncing out of an (amazingly) still intact pouch. Urdnot Bakara's crystal. It's nothing more than a crystal with a light source installed, hung on a chain, a simple gift... and yet so much more. Shepard stares at the little light, enraptured, Vigil starts playing, a short flash of all the faces of our friends and companions, Grunt, Joker, Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Hackett, Anderson, all of them plays by at high speed, superimposed over the image of Shepard staring down at the crystal, the light reflected in his eyes, which are now filled with tears, he crawls over to a pile of rubble, resting his back against a rock. Shepard calmly reaches down to the dropped Carnifex and places the barrel under his chin. Cut to black, gunshot. Go to 13.] 


I knew I had seen it appear in your script, I was just hoping that BioWare could do something as brilliant as this, and hopefully they will.

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Um, that. *points at Johnboy's post*

I think I heard it mentioned, but never in the context of starboy.

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Salient Archer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

I've been playing through the genophage story arc again and just finished my conversation with Eve about how she became a Korgan Shaman and I remembered that when I first played through that scene I really thought that both the crystal she hands you and her quote "Take it as a reminder, commander. In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." were going to relate directly to the end game somehow (as cheesy as that sounds).


*cough*

9 - Your Darkest Hour

[Shepard struggles to walk toward the beam or downed cables, his pistol shaking in his hand as he slowly approaches it. Shepard trips over a rock as he walks toward either the beam or the cables. Shepard does a faceplant in the sandy dirt, something bouncing out of an (amazingly) still intact pouch. Urdnot Bakara's crystal. It's nothing more than a crystal with a light source installed, hung on a chain, a simple gift... and yet so much more. Shepard stares at the little light, enraptured, Vigil starts playing, a short flash of all the faces of our friends and companions, Grunt, Joker, Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Hackett, Anderson, all of them plays by at high speed, superimposed over the image of Shepard staring down at the crystal, the light reflected in his eyes, which are now filled with tears, he crawls over to a pile of rubble, resting his back against a rock. Shepard calmly reaches down to the dropped Carnifex and places the barrel under his chin. Cut to black, gunshot. Go to 13.] 


I knew I had seen it appear in your script, I was just hoping that BioWare could do something as brilliant as this, and hopefully they will.


Oh I hope not, this one is as depressing as all ****.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Um, that. *points at Johnboy's post*

I think I heard it mentioned, but never in the context of starboy.


Starbinger souds more sinister

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

I've been playing through the genophage story arc again and just finished my conversation with Eve about how she became a Korgan Shaman and I remembered that when I first played through that scene I really thought that both the crystal she hands you and her quote "Take it as a reminder, commander. In the darkest hour, there is always a way out." were going to relate directly to the end game somehow (as cheesy as that sounds).


*cough*

9 - Your Darkest Hour

[Shepard struggles to walk toward the beam or downed cables, his pistol shaking in his hand as he slowly approaches it. Shepard trips over a rock as he walks toward either the beam or the cables. Shepard does a faceplant in the sandy dirt, something bouncing out of an (amazingly) still intact pouch. Urdnot Bakara's crystal. It's nothing more than a crystal with a light source installed, hung on a chain, a simple gift... and yet so much more. Shepard stares at the little light, enraptured, Vigil starts playing, a short flash of all the faces of our friends and companions, Grunt, Joker, Liara, Ashley, Kaiden, Hackett, Anderson, all of them plays by at high speed, superimposed over the image of Shepard staring down at the crystal, the light reflected in his eyes, which are now filled with tears, he crawls over to a pile of rubble, resting his back against a rock. Shepard calmly reaches down to the dropped Carnifex and places the barrel under his chin. Cut to black, gunshot. Go to 13.] 


I knew I had seen it appear in your script, I was just hoping that BioWare could do something as brilliant as this, and hopefully they will.


Oh I hope not, this one is as depressing as all ****.

 I'm good with depressing as long as it's sensical and sentimental.

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Um, that. *points at Johnboy's post*

I think I heard it mentioned, but never in the context of starboy.


Starbinger souds more sinister


I still prefer "The Guardian" after all, it's not the first time that an enigmatic being named "The Guardian" appeared before a hero acting out of character, offered him an ultimatum which resulted in a huge beam of light that rearranged the way reality works being shot everywhere as the hero was consumed to power this event, leading to the destruction of a franchise EA owned. 

(and yes, despite not really being an Ultima fan, I am talking about Ultima IX)
:wizard:

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Um, that. *points at Johnboy's post*

I think I heard it mentioned, but never in the context of starboy.


Starbinger souds more sinister


I still prefer "The Guardian" after all, it's not the first time that an enigmatic being named "The Guardian" appeared before a hero acting out of character, offered him an ultimatum which resulted in a huge beam of light that rearranged the way reality works being shot everywhere as the hero was consumed to power this event, leading to the destruction of a franchise EA owned. 

(and yes, despite not really being an Ultima fan, I am talking about Ultima IX)
:wizard:

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Your such a geek :P

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

The war has just begun.


While I like Audiomachine, i prefer Two Steps From Hell :)
Especially for MP. And writing. And reading!

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Yep.

And that's why you guys love me. :)

Anywho, I leave for the airport tomorrow, so I may end up being off the grid for most of tomorrow. And I'll have to hit the sack soon. Well. Not too soon.

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Arian Dynas wrote...

Yep.

And that's why you guys love me. :)

Anywho, I leave for the airport tomorrow, so I may end up being off the grid for most of tomorrow. And I'll have to hit the sack soon. Well. Not too soon.


SOme one going on holidays?

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Rosewind wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Yep.

And that's why you guys love me. :)

Anywho, I leave for the airport tomorrow, so I may end up being off the grid for most of tomorrow. And I'll have to hit the sack soon. Well. Not too soon.


SOme one going on holidays?


Brother's wedding, and since my laptop is in Huston being repaired, I won't be able to make as many appearances as I usually do for the week, though I don't doubt I can pop in once or twice a day maybe.

Someone want to be nice and volunteer to keep me updated whenever I'm on?

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

The war has just begun.


While I like Audiomachine, i prefer Two Steps From Hell :)
Especially for MP. And writing. And reading!


Can't like both?

But yeah, Two Steps From Hell is aptly named.

In fact, their piece, Archangel inspired this;

The skies themselves opened up, like a piece of
cloth being ripped asunder.

Pouring from the very heavens themselves like
rain, a horde that had never been seen in more than 2000 years.

Their figures burned the eyes to behold, some
walked as men, great feathery wings stained with blood and flaming swords held
in their grip. Others were as great wheels of eyes and fire, and others were
nothing more than rays of hard light that shot through the enemy like spears,
tearing them to pieces from the inside.

The very host of heaven itself had come to their
aide.

He watched, stunned as a great angel, taller than
those around him, wielding a sword as long as a man was tall, cleanly
bifurcated an enemy at the waist, his torso catching up with his legs as he
fell, burning to ash before he touched the ground.

Their gazes burned like the sun. It was as though
one could see the wrath of God himself alight in their eyes. Man and Daemon
alike, arrayed on both sides couldn’t bear to look at them. The earth cracked
and dried with their footsteps, it was as though their very presence was a heat
that burned reality.

In the sky above, winged angels dove and swooped
through the enemy forces, grabbing their foes and lifting them high into the
air, only to drop them on the blades of their allies below. It was a savagery
and vengeance that shocked him to his core, it was pure anger and hatred so concentrated
and beyond human understanding, he felt his brain nearly burning as he tried to
understand it.

Now he knew why it was that so few angels could
hold off the legions of hell during their civil war.

Modifié par Arian Dynas, 16 juin 2012 - 08:25 .


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Someone could give me an update of the last hours? Won't repeat again but I'm really interested if there's something new :P

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Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

The war has just begun.


While I like Audiomachine, i prefer Two Steps From Hell :)
Especially for MP. And writing. And reading!


Can't like both?

But yeah, Two Steps From Hell is aptly named.

In fact, their piece, Archangel inspired this;

The skies themselves opened up, like a piece of
cloth being ripped asunder.

Pouring from the very heavens themselves like
rain, a horde that had never been seen in more than 2000 years.

Their figures burned the eyes to behold, some
walked as men, great feathery wings stained with blood and flaming swords held
in their grip. Others were as great wheels of eyes and fire, and others were
nothing more than rays of hard light that shot through the enemy like spears,
tearing them to pieces from the inside.

The very host of heaven itself had come to their
aide.

He watched, stunned as a great angel, taller than
those around him, wielding a sword as long as a man was tall, cleanly
bifurcated an enemy at the waist, his torso catching up with his legs as he
fell, burning to ash before he touched the ground.

Their gazes burned like the sun. It was as though
one could see the wrath of God himself alight in their eyes. Man and Daemon
alike, arrayed on both sides couldn’t bear to look at them. The earth cracked
and dried with their footsteps, it was as though their very presence was a heat
that burned reality.

In the sky above, winged angels dove and swooped
through the enemy forces, grabbing their foes and lifting them high into the
air, only to drop them on the blades of their allies below. It was a savagery
and vengeance that shocked him to his core, it was pure anger and hatred so concentrated
and beyond human understanding, he felt his brain nearly burning as he tried to
understand it.

Now he knew why it was that so few angels could
hold off the legions of hell during their civil war.


Bravo :).
But, as I said I do like both, I just prefer to listen to Two Steps from Hell on most occaisions. Lately, if it's not getting me through a day at work, they've been the fuel for getting back into writing certain stories (that I've been neglecting the better half of 3 years) unless I've got a specific soundtrack for a story anyway. My stuffs never been what I call great but I enjoy it and it keeps me sane :).

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gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

The war has just begun.


While I like Audiomachine, i prefer Two Steps From Hell :)
Especially for MP. And writing. And reading!


Can't like both?

But yeah, Two Steps From Hell is aptly named.

In fact, their piece, Archangel inspired this;

The skies themselves opened up, like a piece of
cloth being ripped asunder.

Pouring from the very heavens themselves like
rain, a horde that had never been seen in more than 2000 years.

Their figures burned the eyes to behold, some
walked as men, great feathery wings stained with blood and flaming swords held
in their grip. Others were as great wheels of eyes and fire, and others were
nothing more than rays of hard light that shot through the enemy like spears,
tearing them to pieces from the inside.

The very host of heaven itself had come to their
aide.

He watched, stunned as a great angel, taller than
those around him, wielding a sword as long as a man was tall, cleanly
bifurcated an enemy at the waist, his torso catching up with his legs as he
fell, burning to ash before he touched the ground.

Their gazes burned like the sun. It was as though
one could see the wrath of God himself alight in their eyes. Man and Daemon
alike, arrayed on both sides couldn’t bear to look at them. The earth cracked
and dried with their footsteps, it was as though their very presence was a heat
that burned reality.

In the sky above, winged angels dove and swooped
through the enemy forces, grabbing their foes and lifting them high into the
air, only to drop them on the blades of their allies below. It was a savagery
and vengeance that shocked him to his core, it was pure anger and hatred so concentrated
and beyond human understanding, he felt his brain nearly burning as he tried to
understand it.

Now he knew why it was that so few angels could
hold off the legions of hell during their civil war.


Bravo :).
But, as I said I do like both, I just prefer to listen to Two Steps from Hell on most occaisions. Lately, if it's not getting me through a day at work, they've been the fuel for getting back into writing certain stories (that I've been neglecting the better half of 3 years) unless I've got a specific soundtrack for a story anyway. My stuffs never been what I call great but I enjoy it and it keeps me sane :).


Three years? Ha, I got that topped, been neglecting my series for 11 years on and off, been writing them since I was 9. :lol:

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Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

gunslinger_ruiz wrote...

Arian Dynas wrote...

Agreed.

The war has just begun.


While I like Audiomachine, i prefer Two Steps From Hell :)
Especially for MP. And writing. And reading!


Can't like both?

But yeah, Two Steps From Hell is aptly named.

In fact, their piece, Archangel inspired this;

The skies themselves opened up, like a piece of
cloth being ripped asunder.

Pouring from the very heavens themselves like
rain, a horde that had never been seen in more than 2000 years.

Their figures burned the eyes to behold, some
walked as men, great feathery wings stained with blood and flaming swords held
in their grip. Others were as great wheels of eyes and fire, and others were
nothing more than rays of hard light that shot through the enemy like spears,
tearing them to pieces from the inside.

The very host of heaven itself had come to their
aide.

He watched, stunned as a great angel, taller than
those around him, wielding a sword as long as a man was tall, cleanly
bifurcated an enemy at the waist, his torso catching up with his legs as he
fell, burning to ash before he touched the ground.

Their gazes burned like the sun. It was as though
one could see the wrath of God himself alight in their eyes. Man and Daemon
alike, arrayed on both sides couldn’t bear to look at them. The earth cracked
and dried with their footsteps, it was as though their very presence was a heat
that burned reality.

In the sky above, winged angels dove and swooped
through the enemy forces, grabbing their foes and lifting them high into the
air, only to drop them on the blades of their allies below. It was a savagery
and vengeance that shocked him to his core, it was pure anger and hatred so concentrated
and beyond human understanding, he felt his brain nearly burning as he tried to
understand it.

Now he knew why it was that so few angels could
hold off the legions of hell during their civil war.


Bravo :).
But, as I said I do like both, I just prefer to listen to Two Steps from Hell on most occaisions. Lately, if it's not getting me through a day at work, they've been the fuel for getting back into writing certain stories (that I've been neglecting the better half of 3 years) unless I've got a specific soundtrack for a story anyway. My stuffs never been what I call great but I enjoy it and it keeps me sane :).


Three years? Ha, I got that topped, been neglecting my series for 11 years on and off, been writing them since I was 9. :lol:


Heh I'm about the same, started a story in middle school still havne't finished it. I don't think I'm even half way, mostly keeps getting pushed to the bottom of my to-do list. Then there's at least 3 or 4 more that've been sitting around for years. Kind of troubling really o_O

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I am to ADD to write lol

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I know the feeling.

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I'd say I'm just too lazy to write anything too long ^^; But I'm trying to work on that.

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Same.

I get depressed and rip whatever I write a new @sshole most of the time.