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#20601
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Lord Luc1fer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


Sorry paxxton but I dont think you'll find much support for the idea that Shepard never got up from getting knocked down in Vancouver.... Too many unpleasant implications...

.... Problematic


Indeed. :D

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DrTsoni wrote...

Wasn't there a theory running for a while that Shepard's still out cold on the Normandy after being hit by the Prothean beacon way back in ME1 and that pretty much everything that's happened over the course of the series was actually just in his/her head? I suppose if that's possible, this is, though neither seem likely to me. Sorry :unsure:


I dont think that was ever a legit theory that anyone believed, just a joke....

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This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D

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HellishFiend wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Wasn't there a theory running for a while that Shepard's still out cold on the Normandy after being hit by the Prothean beacon way back in ME1 and that pretty much everything that's happened over the course of the series was actually just in his/her head? I suppose if that's possible, this is, though neither seem likely to me. Sorry :unsure:


I dont think that was ever a legit theory that anyone believed, just a joke....

Just like geth consensus theory...

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ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


The result would be the second coming of chuck norris

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HellishFiend wrote...

Lord Luc1fer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...


Sorry paxxton but I dont think you'll find much support for the idea that Shepard never got up from getting knocked down in Vancouver.... Too many unpleasant implications...

.... Problematic


Indeed. :D

*sigh* But it's potential is infinite. A second chance to create the same game anew with everyone's happy to varying degrees (strictly above unhappy).

Modifié par paxxton, 16 juin 2012 - 10:36 .


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ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


Hellish where is your image of all the Enterprises?

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HellishFiend wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

Wasn't there a theory running for a while that Shepard's still out cold on the Normandy after being hit by the Prothean beacon way back in ME1 and that pretty much everything that's happened over the course of the series was actually just in his/her head? I suppose if that's possible, this is, though neither seem likely to me. Sorry :unsure:


I dont think that was ever a legit theory that anyone believed, just a joke....

I thought it was, but some people actually seemed to be on board with believing it so I wasn't sure if anybody still actually accepted it or not.

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ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


People say, this is how Niftu Cal, the biotic god, got his powers...

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ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


My guess is it would cause a reaction that ends up looking like some sort of galactic game of Plinko:D

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Starbuck8 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


Hellish where is your image of all the Enterprises?


Well I decided to go with Galactic Plinko for this one, but yeah, that one is possible too. :D

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@MaximizedAction What do you think about my interpretation of Riot86's evidence?

Modifié par paxxton, 16 juin 2012 - 10:38 .


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MaximizedAction wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D


People say, this is how Niftu Cal, the biotic god, got his powers...

So the actual explosion would just be a 'great wind'? Posted Image

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Starbuck8 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Finally got my theory down about an hour ago. It's my explaination to the strangeness of London and ties in to the IT. I wrote it before Riot86's post with new evidence on London so it doesn't have that yet but I hope to get some of it in if it fits.

Anyway, you guys should check it out. http://social.biowar...87/blog/214072/

Edit: It seems that BSN isn't friendly to changing from Microsoft Word on my computer.


I do kinda like your theory about the beam as an indoctrination device. Was it you or someone else here who mentioned that the artifact on Aequitas drew people to it and appeared to glow as they became indoctrinated?

I also think a waking nightmare could be a plausible explanation for all those weird things in London :)

The other explanation could be of course that London doesn't take place outside of Shepard's head at all (aArian supports this idea for example). But I don't have seen a clear indication when this "full dream" is supposed to start, yet. Hence at the moment(!) I actually think that TJBartlemus' waking nightmare theory sounds more logical to me.

However, I'm not 100% sure about the beam itself as an indoctrination device. But I wouldn't rule it out either, it COULD be the source of some sort of Reaper signal, of course. We still need to find more evidence, though.

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Riot86 wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

Finally got my theory down about an hour ago. It's my explaination to the strangeness of London and ties in to the IT. I wrote it before Riot86's post with new evidence on London so it doesn't have that yet but I hope to get some of it in if it fits.

Anyway, you guys should check it out. http://social.biowar...87/blog/214072/

Edit: It seems that BSN isn't friendly to changing from Microsoft Word on my computer.


I do kinda like your theory about the beam as an indoctrination device. Was it you or someone else here who mentioned that the artifact on Aequitas drew people to it and appeared to glow as they became indoctrinated?

I also think a waking nightmare could be a plausible explanation for all those weird things in London :)

The other explanation could be of course that London doesn't take place outside of Shepard's head at all (aArian supports this idea for example). But I don't have seen a clear indication when this "full dream" is supposed to start, yet. Hence at the moment(!) I actually think that TJBartlemus' waking nightmare theory sounds more logical to me.

However, I'm not 100% sure about the beam itself as an indoctrination device. But I wouldn't rule it out either, it COULD be the source of some sort of Reaper signal, of course. We still need to find more evidence, though.

Well, it was set up by the Reapers. I'm not sure what the purpose for it would be to them but when have they ever done anything to benefit organics? I don't buy it simply being there to transport bodies to make into a Reaper.
Though now I don't think I will ever be able to think of the protein vats the same again...

#20616
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ivenoidea wrote...

This probably doesn't really fit in here, but i want to ask people that actually know the story.

What would happen if you moved one relay next to another?

(I do not mean the paired ones. Let's say you move ones that are not tied together.)

Would they both attempt to shoot the other one away? Would the universe implode? :D

If they are paired, their artificially increased gravitational pulls will make them collide. The process will free enormous amounts of energy capable of bending spacetime. The wormhole into the high-dimensional space will suck the 3 dimensions creating an interspatial discontinuity which in turn will create a logical inconsistencies. Basically, the fabric of branes will just vanish.

If you bring 2 unpaired relays, they just bounce off each other's quantum bubble.

Modifié par paxxton, 16 juin 2012 - 10:55 .


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So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

Modifié par HellishFiend, 16 juin 2012 - 11:02 .


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HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted ImagePosted Image

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HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")


Those TVs drive me crazy!

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paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted Image



when a CRT turns on, i feel like hitting my head witha hammer.

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paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted Image


The only thing I miss about CRT's is the responsiveness. A CRT could display an image the very instant it was received. Newer TVs have slight delays that are sometimes problematic for games. I dont miss the high pitched whine, though it didnt usually bother me. I even thought it was kinda cool that I could "hear" when a TV was on even if it wasnt making any sound. :P

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paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted Image


Lol oh yeah I hate that sound.

Btw hellish, where are you standing on the crew deck? I always would hear the laughter kinda outside of Liara's door. The ambient noise on the Normandy shifts so much from one area to the next even on the same deck.

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Okay, I kind of need ITers help with this.

When ME3 first came out there was a promotional picture used on the xbox dashboard  feed.

It looked relatively similiar to the picture below, except Shepard had flaming red eyes and there were Reapers directly behind him, almost looking as though he was working with the Reapers. He also had his hand
by his side tensing as if to say "the world was in his hands". This second pic tries to illustrate this, I couldn't find a better one so forgive me.
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At first I thought it was be easy to find, however after searching google for about an hour I can't find the picture anywhere.Posted Image

Can anyone help? Or does anyone who plays on xbox or even pc, know what pic I am talking about?

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HellishFiend

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deltacypresss wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted Image



when a CRT turns on, i feel like hitting my head witha hammer.


Then you can probly corroborate my findings. Do you have headphones or speakers that have a good frequency response range? If so, try idling on the crew deck for a few minutes and let me know if you hear it too. 

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deltacypresss wrote...

paxxton wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

So I'm idling on the crew deck of the Normandy at the first opportunity (after the first dream), and I'm getting the laughter about once or twice a minute. I'm also noticing what sounds like a nearly ultrasonic whine every couple of minutes or so. Its really hard to hear, but definitely there. It sounds sort of like an old CRT TV. (For those who dont know, CRT TV's used tech that would cause a super high frequency whine near the upper edge of the acoustic range that only some people with sensitive hearing can hear and sometimes even "feel")

CRTs are an abomination! Posted Image



when a CRT turns on, i feel like hitting my head witha hammer.

And the flickering is/was unbearable even if unnoticeable. Posted Image Tearing strained eyes. Posted Image I'm glad I use exlusively LCDs nowadays.