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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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#20701
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TJBartlemus wrote...

Starbuck8 wrote...

@Riot86 Nice, you're really observant! How do you notice these things :happy:

Interesting on all the handles. I was hoping we could find something in the game that looked really similar to the control apparatus, since the destroy tube resembles other things in the game.


Now we need something that looks like a giant beam...where could that be? :whistle::P

Edit: I mean really...I think that Earth is the only time you see a giant beam. Also I found in a recent play of ME3 that Anderson comments that he is in London but he says nothing about a giant beam in the horizon. And this was after the Thesia mission I believe.

In the two weather anomaly missions in ME2, it's apparently the same model. Also keep in mind that these two machines were setup by Geth heretics which work for 'you-know-who...'
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paxxton wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

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Maybe...  the monitors in Liara's cabin do.  ...  Seriously, go check it out.  It's creepy.

It's actually very convenient and super futuristic. Posted Image I'd like to have such a wall of monitors at home. Posted Image


But what if all the monitors had eyes on them?

Then those eyes would see me and I would see them. Posted Image


But what if you were sleeping,and all those eyes staring at you?
You wouldn't even be a little freaked out?Posted Image

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HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Idont get why she's being indoctrinated.
she doesn't affect you in anyway so what does it........
hold on i just thought of something,if she's being indoctrinated does that mean her baby is being indoctrinated?Posted Image


Who knows... maybe there was more going on at that facility than we were led to believe. :blink:


Don't go back and look at the correction like I mentioned munnellyladt. That would be too difficult.

She is in the PROCESS of being indoctrinated, thus the highlighted portion of her message.

Ask Rana what happens over time once someone is exposed. They either overcome it (which we have no real proof if that is or is not possible), or they don't... and become sleeper agents.

There are probably plenty of people out there that have over come Indoctrination... it's just that, like being indoctrinated; they have no idea it's happening, so why would they ever come out and say; 'Hey, you know I was almost indoctrinated once...'

Modifié par Turbo_J, 17 juin 2012 - 01:27 .


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munnellyladt wrote...

paxxton wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

paxxton wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Maybe...  the monitors in Liara's cabin do.  ...  Seriously, go check it out.  It's creepy.

It's actually very convenient and super futuristic. Posted Image I'd like to have such a wall of monitors at home. Posted Image


But what if all the monitors had eyes on them?

Then those eyes would see me and I would see them. Posted Image


But what if you were sleeping,and all those eyes staring at you?
You wouldn't even be a little freaked out?Posted Image

LOL. I'd have an option to have the monitors turned off after 10 minutes. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 01:34 .


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paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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"remember that timescales used in SP and MP timelines may not be the same. What takes months in MP (all the OPs) might actually happen in a lot shorter time when considered on the SP timescale. I don't remember but there's no mention in ME3 how long the SP campaign lasts in the ME timeframe."


Okay I remember in a converation with anderson that Shepard comments on how he is surprised that it's only been a few months. And that was towards the end of the game.

Interesting. Could you be more specific? In what circumstances this dialogue takes place?


It was when he was talking to Anderson about Earth and what is going on. When he hears how it is he says that it is unbelievable that it's only been two months. At least that is what I believe what he said and I have a good memory for details. Currently I'm so frustrated with Youtube cause I'm trying to find the proof but all that they have is where Anderson dies.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 17 juin 2012 - 01:29 .


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Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Idont get why she's being indoctrinated.
she doesn't affect you in anyway so what does it........
hold on i just thought of something,if she's being indoctrinated does that mean her baby is being indoctrinated?Posted Image


Who knows... maybe there was more going on at that facility than we were led to believe. :blink:


Don't go back and look at the correction like I mentioned munnellyladt. That would be too difficult.

She is in the PROCESS of being indoctrinated, thus the highlighted portion of her message.

Ask Rana what happens over time once someone is exposed. They either overcome it (which we have no real proof if that is or is not possible), or they don't... and become sleeper agents.

There are probably plenty of people out there that have over come Indoctrination... it's just that, like being indoctrinated; they have no idea it's happening, so why would they ever come out and say; 'Hey, you know I was almost indoctrinated once...'


I was just making a joke.

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@Salient Archer: Have you posted that wall of text you announced a few days ago?

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Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Idont get why she's being indoctrinated.
she doesn't affect you in anyway so what does it........
hold on i just thought of something,if she's being indoctrinated does that mean her baby is being indoctrinated?Posted Image


Who knows... maybe there was more going on at that facility than we were led to believe. :blink:


Don't go back and look at the correction like I mentioned munnellyladt. That would be too difficult.

She is in the PROCESS of being indoctrinated, thus the highlighted portion of her message.

Ask Rana what happens over time once someone is exposed. They either overcome it (which we have no real proof if that is or is not possible), or they don't... and become sleeper agents.

There are probably plenty of people out there that have over come Indoctrination... it's just that, like being indoctrinated; they have no idea it's happening, so why would they ever come out and say; 'Hey, you know I was almost indoctrinated once...'


I think he means he's wondering why she is in the process of being indoctrinated, not why she is already indoctrinated. It's a valid question joke... 
:ph34r:

Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 01:30 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

It was when he was talking to Anderson about Earth and what is going on. When he hears how it is he says that it is unbelievable that it's only been two months. At least that is what I believe what he said and I have a good memory for details. Currently I'm so frustrated with Youtube cause I'm trying to find the proof but all that they have is where Anderson dies.


Well, to be fair, it has felt like years since he last sat down, so people like posting videos of him being able to sit down.

Makes sense to me anyway. :happy:

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HellishFiend wrote...

Turbo_J wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

munnellyladt wrote...

Idont get why she's being indoctrinated.
she doesn't affect you in anyway so what does it........
hold on i just thought of something,if she's being indoctrinated does that mean her baby is being indoctrinated?Posted Image


Who knows... maybe there was more going on at that facility than we were led to believe. :blink:


Don't go back and look at the correction like I mentioned munnellyladt. That would be too difficult.

She is in the PROCESS of being indoctrinated, thus the highlighted portion of her message.

Ask Rana what happens over time once someone is exposed. They either overcome it (which we have no real proof if that is or is not possible), or they don't... and become sleeper agents.

There are probably plenty of people out there that have over come Indoctrination... it's just that, like being indoctrinated; they have no idea it's happening, so why would they ever come out and say; 'Hey, you know I was almost indoctrinated once...'


I think he means he's wondering why she is in the process of being indoctrinated, not why she is already indoctrinated. It's a valid question joke... 
:ph34r:


Ha!Posted Image

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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

"remember that timescales used in SP and MP timelines may not be the same. What takes months in MP (all the OPs) might actually happen in a lot shorter time when considered on the SP timescale. I don't remember but there's no mention in ME3 how long the SP campaign lasts in the ME timeframe."


Okay I remember in a converation with anderson that Shepard comments on how he is surprised that it's only been a few months. And that was towards the end of the game.

Interesting. Could you be more specific? In what circumstances this dialogue takes place?


It was when he was talking to Anderson about Earth and what is going on. When he hears how it is he says that it is unbelievable that it's only been two months. At least that is what I believe what he said and I have a good memory for details. Currently I'm so frustrated with Youtube cause I'm trying to find the proof but all that they have is where Anderson dies.

I see. Anyway, timescales aren't very important to RSDT itself. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 01:34 .


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I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

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TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 01:37 .


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so paxxton. How does the breath scene fit into your theory? For me that scene is the lynch pin for any theory.

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paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.


But husks are mindless and still obey Reapers even when not in the presence of. Anyway, if what you say is true then it does manifest it's self cause somepart of your brain (subconscous) would accept it then it would spread like a disease. It would manifest because you would think it was your ideas but really it was the reapers who planted the original idea. Just look at Inception. It''s possible.

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so paxxton. How does the breath scene fit into your theory? For me that scene is the lynch pin for any theory.

Indoctrination happens in Shepard's dream. He descends deeper into the 2nd-order dream (which is Citadel: The Return).  After he wakes up in rubble in London he's back to the 1st-order dream. Basically, he doesn't wake up into his reality. The dream continues until he wakes up on the floor in Vancouver HQ.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.


But husks are mindless and still obey Reapers even when not in the presence of. Anyway, if what you say is true then it does manifest it's self cause somepart of your brain (subconscous) would accept it then it would spread like a disease. It would manifest because you would think it was your ideas but really it was the reapers who planted the original idea. Just look at Inception. It''s possible.

It's because real husks are injected with nanides. They can't resist obeying the Reapers.

Indoctrination (according to my other theory - UNIT) is also based on nanide technology but is much slower than Dragon's Tooth method.

Metaconvergence Theory (aka UNIT)
http://social.biowar.../index/12089259

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 01:49 .


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Is there a link to a video regarding the "screen bob" that's being discussed?

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deltacypresss wrote...

so paxxton. How does the breath scene fit into your theory? For me that scene is the lynch pin for any theory.


As much as I hate to say it, cause I don't want to say none of ME3 happened, but the breathe scene could be where you woke up from almost getting hit by the desk in the beginning. I just like the WNT (Waking Nightmare Theory) better though.

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paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.


But husks are mindless and still obey Reapers even when not in the presence of. Anyway, if what you say is true then it does manifest it's self cause somepart of your brain (subconscous) would accept it then it would spread like a disease. It would manifest because you would think it was your ideas but really it was the reapers who planted the original idea. Just look at Inception. It''s possible.

It's because real husks are injected with nanides. They can't resist obeying the Reapers.

Indoctrination (according to my other theory - UNIT) is also based on nanide technology but is much slower than Dragon's Tooth method.


Well indoctrination is also infrasnic noise which could spread the idea to your subconsious.

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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.


But husks are mindless and still obey Reapers even when not in the presence of. Anyway, if what you say is true then it does manifest it's self cause somepart of your brain (subconscous) would accept it then it would spread like a disease. It would manifest because you would think it was your ideas but really it was the reapers who planted the original idea. Just look at Inception. It''s possible.

It's because real husks are injected with nanides. They can't resist obeying the Reapers.

Indoctrination (according to my other theory - UNIT) is also based on nanide technology but is much slower than Dragon's Tooth method.


Well indoctrination is also infrasnic noise which could spread the idea to your subconsious.

Yes, also.

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LazyTechGuy wrote...

Is there a link to a video regarding the "screen bob" that's being discussed?

After beam, before beam and weapon bench clips...
www.youtube.com/watch

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Wow. Ten minutes and no posts. Too quiet.

Edit: Oops Bill Casey speaks sorta. Not to be mean. Didn't notice the weapon bob before.

Modifié par TJBartlemus, 17 juin 2012 - 02:07 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

TJBartlemus wrote...

I asked this question once before...but has anyone not proved that after an amount of time next to reaper devices that even after being away from them it continues to manifest itself in your mind?

Yes, the process perpetuates itself by constant repetition of Reaper ideas. The victim thinks about them, analyzes them and then accepts them.


But husks are mindless and still obey Reapers even when not in the presence of. Anyway, if what you say is true then it does manifest it's self cause somepart of your brain (subconscous) would accept it then it would spread like a disease. It would manifest because you would think it was your ideas but really it was the reapers who planted the original idea. Just look at Inception. It''s possible.

It's because real husks are injected with nanides. They can't resist obeying the Reapers.

Indoctrination (according to my other theory - UNIT) is also based on nanide technology but is much slower than Dragon's Tooth method.


Well indoctrination is also infrasnic noise which could spread the idea to your subconsious.


Problem with this is shep is in armor. also, it is way too dark to be day time, even indoors.

Paxxton, i find that interesting but in my opinion taking things a little too far with too little evidence.

If you look hard enough for something, you will find it. that doesn't mean it is real though. thats just a general messege for everyone in the thread.

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I thought there was going to be more interest in RSDT upon publication.

EDIT: Maybe later... Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 02:09 .