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[Salient Archer]

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

[Salient Archer]

While I wait for my Cronos station videos to process I decided to upload this image of the crucible as I don't feel that anyone else has yet. I brightened it and Sharpened it to get some extra details out of it and from what I can tell there's nothing on there that could even resemble the decision chamber; just the docking arms and the central beam.

I only say this because I remember it was entertained that the descision chamber was actually part of the crucible and not the bottom of the citadel tower...

Modifié par Salient Archer, 17 juin 2012 - 07:40 .

[dorktainian]

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

plz do.....

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by that. You cant alter the frequency of an infrasound tone without fundamentally changing what it is. It would be the same thing as listening to a sample that is already at the frequency you change it to. 

But according to our findings so far, anytime the game has hidden infrasound, it's also accompanied by a bass tone of about 30hz, which is near the bottom range of human hearing. So it appears on the surface that Bioware is giving us a chance to "hear" when the infrasound is present, even though we cant actually hear it (nor can conventional speakers play most of it). 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 07:41 .

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

While I wait for my Cronos station videos to process I decided to upload this image of the crucible as I don't feel that anyone else has yet. I brightened it and Sharpened it to get some extra details out of it and from what I can tell there's nothing on there that could even resemble the decision chamber; just the docking arms and the central beam.

I dont think anyone ever got behind that theory except for Epyon. The only thing he's really clinging on to at this point is the fact that in some of the later shots as it approaches the Citadel, that beam emitter seems to be sticking out a bit further. Despite the fact that its still clearly the beam emitter, and much smaller than the decision chamber, he thinks it's somehow a deployable decision chamber that detaches from the Crucible and attaches to the Citadel off-camera. <_<

Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 07:40 .

[deltacypresss]

Hellisg- looking forward to it.

Salient- any chance of a higher resolution?

Synthesis- The only cure for Joker's brittle bone disease. at least now he can sexy time with EDI without a bear suit.(this has been a product of my current lack of sleep)

Edit: i kinda actually like the desision chamber on the crucible as it made Starbrat even more of a Liar.

Modifié par deltacypresss, 17 juin 2012 - 07:44 .

[Salient Archer]

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by that. You cant alter the frequency of an infrasound tone without fundamentally changing what it is. It would be the same thing as listening to a sample that is already at frequency you change it to. 

But according to our findings so far, anytime the game has hidden infrasound, it's also accompanied by a bass tone of about 30hz, which is near the bottom range of human hearing. So it appears on the surface that Bioware is giving us a chance to "hear" when the infrasound is present, even though we cant actually hear it (nor can conventional speakers play most of it). 

What he means is to increase the octave of the infrasonic sounds until the reach a frequency human ears can perceive, in other words pitch shifting it. This is entirely possible with any software that has pitch shifting capabilities, also, you'd have to run a high-pass filter to remove any frequencies above 20~30hz so that the intended frequencies can be isolated without others in the way.

[Salient Archer]

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

While I wait for my Cronos station videos to process I decided to upload this image of the crucible as I don't feel that anyone else has yet. I brightened it and Sharpened it to get some extra details out of it and from what I can tell there's nothing on there that could even resemble the decision chamber; just the docking arms and the central beam.

I dont think anyone ever got behind that theory except for Epyon. The only thing he's really clinging on to at this point is the fact that in some of the later shots as it approaches the Citadel, that beam emitter seems to be sticking out a bit further. Despite the fact that its still clearly the beam emitter, and much smaller than the decision chamber, he thinks it's somehow a deployable decision chamber that detaches from the Crucible and attaches to the Citadel off-camera. <_<

As this contradicts my own EMS system at its core, I have to disregard Epyon's feelings on this matter.

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by that. You cant alter the frequency of an infrasound tone without fundamentally changing what it is. It would be the same thing as listening to a sample that is already at frequency you change it to. 

But according to our findings so far, anytime the game has hidden infrasound, it's also accompanied by a bass tone of about 30hz, which is near the bottom range of human hearing. So it appears on the surface that Bioware is giving us a chance to "hear" when the infrasound is present, even though we cant actually hear it (nor can conventional speakers play most of it). 

What he means is to increase the octave of the infrasonic sounds until the reach a frequency human ears can perceive, in other words pitch shifting it. This is entirely possible with any software that has pitch shifting capabilities, also, you'd have to run a high-pass filter to remove any frequencies above 20~30hz so that the intended frequencies can be isolated without others in the way.

I dont know with 100% certainty but I think TSA said it was just a solid tone, so pitch shifting it would only result in a higher pitched tone. We can ask him again next time he's here though if he's sure its just a solid tone or if there might be something there. 

[Salient Archer]

deltacypresss wrote...

Hellisg- looking forward to it.

Salient- any chance of a higher resolution?

Synthesis- The only cure for Joker's brittle bone disease. at least now he can sexy time with EDI without a bear suit.(this has been a product of my current lack of sleep)

Edit: i kinda actually like the desision chamber on the crucible as it made Starbrat even more of a Liar.

Sorry, 720p is all I could extract [open it in a new tab if that helps]; the problem is that the original image had such a low gamma that there's not much bandwidth to work with before distortion artifacts begin to show.

[Salient Archer]

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by that. You cant alter the frequency of an infrasound tone without fundamentally changing what it is. It would be the same thing as listening to a sample that is already at frequency you change it to. 

But according to our findings so far, anytime the game has hidden infrasound, it's also accompanied by a bass tone of about 30hz, which is near the bottom range of human hearing. So it appears on the surface that Bioware is giving us a chance to "hear" when the infrasound is present, even though we cant actually hear it (nor can conventional speakers play most of it). 

What he means is to increase the octave of the infrasonic sounds until the reach a frequency human ears can perceive, in other words pitch shifting it. This is entirely possible with any software that has pitch shifting capabilities, also, you'd have to run a high-pass filter to remove any frequencies above 20~30hz so that the intended frequencies can be isolated without others in the way.

I dont know with 100% certainty but I think TSA said it was just a solid tone, so pitch shifting it would only result in a higher pitched tone. We can ask him again next time he's here though if he's sure its just a solid tone or if there might be something there. 

Sweet, we should only need to increase it by about 12 octaves (using the middle C freq of 256hz as ref) before we get something more audible, if there's anything at all that is.

[Salient Archer]

Salient Archer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Salient Archer wrote...

Bill Casey wrote...

Has anyone tried isolating and altering the infrasound frequency into an audible range and listening to it?

I second that.

I'm not sure what you guys mean by that. You cant alter the frequency of an infrasound tone without fundamentally changing what it is. It would be the same thing as listening to a sample that is already at frequency you change it to. 

But according to our findings so far, anytime the game has hidden infrasound, it's also accompanied by a bass tone of about 30hz, which is near the bottom range of human hearing. So it appears on the surface that Bioware is giving us a chance to "hear" when the infrasound is present, even though we cant actually hear it (nor can conventional speakers play most of it). 

What he means is to increase the octave of the infrasonic sounds until the reach a frequency human ears can perceive, in other words pitch shifting it. This is entirely possible with any software that has pitch shifting capabilities, also, you'd have to run a high-pass filter to remove any frequencies above 20~30hz so that the intended frequencies can be isolated without others in the way.

I dont know with 100% certainty but I think TSA said it was just a solid tone, so pitch shifting it would only result in a higher pitched tone. We can ask him again next time he's here though if he's sure its just a solid tone or if there might be something there. 

Sweet, we should only need to increase it by about 12 octaves (using the middle C freq of 256hz as ref) before we get something more audible, if there's anything at all that is.

Actually, would you happen to have any of the audio files in question?; I've got the equipment to do it myself if you do, except I'm on a Mac and hence I have the Xbox version of ME3 not the PC.

[HellishFiend]

 I have the Xbox version as well, unfortunately. Great for convenience when playing, bad for playing around with recording. 

Does anyone know who says that line "Every war has it's traitors" and when it's said? I'd like to use it for my video. 

[byne]

HellishFiend wrote...

 I have the Xbox version as well, unfortunately. Great for convenience when playing, bad for playing around with recording. 

Does anyone know who says that line "Every war has it's traitors" and when it's said? I'd like to use it for my video. 

It is said on Sur'kesh. Who says it changes depending on who you have in your squad.

[HellishFiend]

byne wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 I have the Xbox version as well, unfortunately. Great for convenience when playing, bad for playing around with recording. 

Does anyone know who says that line "Every war has it's traitors" and when it's said? I'd like to use it for my video. 

It is said on Sur'kesh. Who says it changes depending on who you have in your squad.

Thanks!

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

By the way, the first video I'm going to put out is going to be on the infrasound subject. Expect it within the next day or two. So far it's turning out to look pretty good!

Verily muchly looking forward to it! 

[Salient Archer]

HellishFiend wrote...

 I have the Xbox version as well, unfortunately. Great for convenience when playing, bad for playing around with recording. 

Does anyone know who says that line "Every war has it's traitors" and when it's said? I'd like to use it for my video. 

Agreed, I don't really like playing a 3rd person game with a keyboard and mouse, that and I usually find the multiplayer experience is better on xbox IMO.

[HellishFiend]

Salient Archer wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

 I have the Xbox version as well, unfortunately. Great for convenience when playing, bad for playing around with recording. 

Does anyone know who says that line "Every war has it's traitors" and when it's said? I'd like to use it for my video. 

Agreed, I don't really like playing a 3rd person game with a keyboard and mouse, that and I usually find the multiplayer experience is better on xbox IMO.

Yeah, ME3 multiplayer is smooth sailing with XBL. 95% positive experience for me. :happy:

[HellishFiend]

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

By the way, the first video I'm going to put out is going to be on the infrasound subject. Expect it within the next day or two. So far it's turning out to look pretty good!

Verily muchly looking forward to it! 

Glad to hear it.  Should clock in a tad shy of 5 minutes long, and will include info on the infrasound in the first dream sequence along with Major Coats, and will also contain basic information on infrasound and how it applies to indoctrination. I'm targeting it towards the audience that isnt yet aware of what infrasound is, how it works, or what it does. So this video might have a chance of turning a few people towards IT that are currently on the fence.

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

By the way, the first video I'm going to put out is going to be on the infrasound subject. Expect it within the next day or two. So far it's turning out to look pretty good!

Verily muchly looking forward to it! 

Glad to hear it.  Should clock in a tad shy of 5 minutes long, and will include info on the infrasound in the first dream sequence along with Major Coats, and will also contain basic information on infrasound and how it applies to indoctrination. I'm targeting it towards the audience that isnt yet aware of what infrasound is, how it works, or what it does. So this video might have a chance of turning a few people towards IT that are currently on the fence.

Awesome! I don't know anything about it so that will work just fine for me. 

Also, I'm having some serious speculations over here. 

[Salient Archer]

So here we go people, the vids finally processed and I grabbed what screen I could.


Lets start with what Hellish was saying about the color of each section. First we have the red section, which has not only been destroyed by the flames of a jetfighter it's also where we are presented with revelations about the Cerberus shock troopers being indoctrinated, as well as Shepard's and EDI's existence. This is also the area where Shepard finally shows his own doubts about his mortality, who or what he really is and if his mind is even his own.



Secondly we have the protoreaper section, which is hued completely in blue. The protoreaper's presence here indicates exactly how far TIM's obsession with understanding and controlling the reapers has gone, especially in a timeline where Shepard destroyed the collector base as this only serves to highlight that TIMs obsession will stop at nothing to gain their power, further dividing his own methods from Shepard's. This is also the area where we finally get the revelation of what TIM was intending with Sanctuary, his experiments on Grayson and his own Reaper implants.



Finally we have the ascent up the stairs to TIMs control room where we have to fight the king of all cereal stealing jackasses Mr.Kai Leng. Who sprouts the douché line of "We evolve or we die! those are the options!" and as far as Mr.Leng's mentality is concerned this probably referes to synthesis... I found Leng's opinion is much the same as Saren's.

Thankfully my Shepard offered Kai these fine parting words...


One additional thing I noticed is that the consoles with the logs about EDI and Kai Leng are bathed in a green hue, despite being between the Red and Blue sections on Cronos station.



Make of this what you will, but I found it interesting that green being the color of Synthesis was chosen to frame the two consoles dedicated to EDI and Leng.

[engage sarcasm filter] But you know, BioWare would never be intelligent enough to put any thought or foreshadowing into any of their games would they... oh wait didn't they make KOTOR?...

Modifié par Salient Archer, 17 juin 2012 - 09:08 .

[HellishFiend]

Excellent post, Salient! Lulz were had when I got to the Kai Leng picture. 

I'm currently planning on doing a video on Cronos station too, and your additional findings will enhance it significantly. 

edit: Also, I forgot how fast time flies when you're editing. I just lost about 5 hours in the blink of an eye. The video is about half done though, so thats good!

Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 09:13 .

[Starbuck8]

Salient Archer wrote...
*snip*

Very nice! This color scheme on Chronos seems quite deliberate.

And ah yes, getting revenge for my cereal was so satisfying...

[Stigweird85]

Well my Mass Effect 3 copy is still busted, Xbox support have tried to fix it but are out of ideas, Bioware still haven't even acknowledged the problem and EA are ignoring my emails too.

Any groundbreaker discoveries on IT, I've been avoiding all threads as it's just been making me more and more frustrated that I can't play

[HellishFiend]

bigstig wrote...

Well my Mass Effect 3 copy is still busted, Xbox support have tried to fix it but are out of ideas, Bioware still haven't even acknowledged the problem and EA are ignoring my emails too.

Any groundbreaker discoveries on IT, I've been avoiding all threads as it's just been making me more and more frustrated that I can't play

Man, that really bites, bigstig. I'd be furious if that happened to me. 

Lately the two main things we've been working on are the "waking hallucinations" theory from Cronos to London, and the infrasonic noise found throughout the game. Salient just made an excellent post on the first topic up above, and I should be putting out a video presentation on the infrasonic noise subject within a couple of days.