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paxxton wrote...
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
*rational, plausible explanation*
byne wrote...
nightcobra8928 wrote...
another little thing about sounds...
remember meeting liara on mars?
she made an awful lot of noise moving around inside the vent duct, as it should be.
then let's go back to the kid in the intro, notice something different?
no sound of him moving in the duct whatsoever. either he's not there to begin with, this was a lapse of judgement on the sound team or....he's a ninja.
i doubt it was the second due to the sound design team of mass effect being one of the best and it shows on how much detail they put on each sound effect they implement into their games, also they showed how someone moving in a duct would make a lot of noise with liara right afterwards.
The thing is, the kid originally makes noise, which is what drew Shep's attention to the ductin the first place, but once she gets distracted by Anderson, he just disappears with no sound. It isnt just inconsistent when comparing his vent escapades with Liara's, its inconsistent within the same scene.
Modifié par nightcobra8928, 17 juin 2012 - 07:38 .
RavenEyry wrote...
Umm, the reapers?SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
Why does there have to be a master of the cycles? Just because some random prothean scientists thought there was one?
Reapers gonna reap. Dont need any master.
Yes, but BW put that line in for a reason, and I think it is pretty obvious that it foreshadows a Catalyst-like character. That begs the question of why BW would even put that in if in fact a "master" doesn't exist.
SubAstris wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Umm, the reapers?SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
The Prothean VI on Thessia says clearly that the Reapers are not the masters of the cycle.
You make a good point, but her attitude is consistant throughout. Her excuses are weak, but her hatred for Cerberus and disgust with what they were doing to their own troops is always there. It's not too shocking she would react this way (and compare Shepard to the trooper on Mars), considering how she acted when you meet her on Horizon.HellishFiend wrote...
byne wrote...
That Ash is a deep cover agent working for Cerberus? Because thats totally what I was suggesting.
She seems to pretty conveniently make her way to the Council during the coup, after all. Even Shepard wonders why she was with them, and Ash just makes up some "I was tired of being couped (see what I did there?) up in the hospital" excuse.
Also, wasnt Thane supposed to be keeping an eye on her for us, to make sure she stayed safe? And she someone manages to easily slip away from someone as observant as Thane?
That's what I thought. It actually seems quite plausible. I cant think of anything that directly contradicts it....
SubAstris wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Umm, the reapers?SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
The Prothean VI on Thessia says clearly that the Reapers are not the masters of the cycle.
HellishFiend wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
byne wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
*rational, plausible explanation*
MaximizedAction wrote...
Regarding indoc'ed sqadmembers: It's not 'official' IT material, but there is possible evidence. For example, there is two kind of squadbanter during the Human reaper scene on TIM's base...
If you have time, watch IT's very own Megumi's video on different squad constellations during key moments in that scene: www.youtube.com/watch
It follows -- from other in-game oddness -- that the main suspects are: James, Liara, Ash/Kaiden.
Modifié par nightcobra8928, 17 juin 2012 - 07:59 .
DrTsoni wrote...
You make a good point, but her attitude is consistant throughout. Her excuses are weak, but her hatred for Cerberus and disgust with what they were doing to their own troops is always there. It's not too shocking she would react this way (and compare Shepard to the trooper on Mars), considering how she acted when you meet her on Horizon.HellishFiend wrote...
byne wrote...
That Ash is a deep cover agent working for Cerberus? Because thats totally what I was suggesting.
She seems to pretty conveniently make her way to the Council during the coup, after all. Even Shepard wonders why she was with them, and Ash just makes up some "I was tired of being couped (see what I did there?) up in the hospital" excuse.
Also, wasnt Thane supposed to be keeping an eye on her for us, to make sure she stayed safe? And she someone manages to easily slip away from someone as observant as Thane?
That's what I thought. It actually seems quite plausible. I cant think of anything that directly contradicts it....
Now that I think of it, I haven't actually completed a playthrough with Kaidan yet...does he react the same?
Vaya wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Regarding indoc'ed sqadmembers: It's not 'official' IT material, but there is possible evidence. For example, there is two kind of squadbanter during the Human reaper scene on TIM's base...
If you have time, watch IT's very own Megumi's video on different squad constellations during key moments in that scene: www.youtube.com/watch
It follows -- from other in-game oddness -- that the main suspects are: James, Liara, Ash/Kaiden.
There was supposed to be a plotline that got dropped regarding a Cerberus mole, but alot of the clues are still in the game and some of them point at those suspects.
For example, there are three pieces of gear you find on Chronos station; the Falcon grenade launcher, the Delumcore Overlay and the Serrice leg armor.
Kaiden has the Falcon in the squad selection screen, James and Ashley both have the overlay in one gear set, and Liara uses the Serrice armor.
But, it's still most likely leftovers from cut content.
Uhm, on the contrary, I meant there's no Reaper master. The cycle just happens. Like evolution.SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
If true, this would undoubtedly have to be explained in the EC if it turns out that IT is true, since it is clearly foreshadowing a Catalyst-like character
Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 07:43 .
byne wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Umm, the reapers?SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
The Prothean VI on Thessia says clearly that the Reapers are not the masters of the cycle.
He also says the presence of Reapers on Thessia means its too late to stop them. He's just crazy.
ZerebusPrime wrote...
Continuing my playthrough. Just asked Commander Bailey about the pulse of the war on the Citadel and got this gem in response:
Bailey: You can only live in denial so long.
Shepard: You wake up or you die. Either way...
Oh BioWare. You slay me.
HellishFiend wrote...
DrTsoni wrote...
You make a good point, but her attitude is consistant throughout. Her excuses are weak, but her hatred for Cerberus and disgust with what they were doing to their own troops is always there. It's not too shocking she would react this way (and compare Shepard to the trooper on Mars), considering how she acted when you meet her on Horizon.HellishFiend wrote...
byne wrote...
That Ash is a deep cover agent working for Cerberus? Because thats totally what I was suggesting.
She seems to pretty conveniently make her way to the Council during the coup, after all. Even Shepard wonders why she was with them, and Ash just makes up some "I was tired of being couped (see what I did there?) up in the hospital" excuse.
Also, wasnt Thane supposed to be keeping an eye on her for us, to make sure she stayed safe? And she someone manages to easily slip away from someone as observant as Thane?
That's what I thought. It actually seems quite plausible. I cant think of anything that directly contradicts it....
Now that I think of it, I haven't actually completed a playthrough with Kaidan yet...does he react the same?
The VS is always vitriolic and suspicious regardless of your actions or words towards them. Even if you romanced them....
Sero303 wrote...
SubAstris wrote...
RavenEyry wrote...
Umm, the reapers?SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
The Prothean VI on Thessia says clearly that the Reapers are not the masters of the cycle.
It speculates... how could it know?
paxxton wrote...
Uhm, on the contrary, I meant there's no Reaper master in the IT interpretation. The cycle just happens. Like evolution.SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
If true, this would undoubtedly have to be explained in the EC if it turns out that IT is true, since it is clearly foreshadowing a Catalyst-like character
A way the things happen isn't a character. Vendetta only hypothesizes that there's a master.SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Uhm, on the contrary, I meant there's no Reaper master in the IT interpretation. The cycle just happens. Like evolution.SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
If true, this would undoubtedly have to be explained in the EC if it turns out that IT is true, since it is clearly foreshadowing a Catalyst-like character
Although it is heavily implied in the narrative that there is a sentient force behind it all
Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 07:45 .
Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...
A save, like my Rachni Queen theory?
SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Uhm, on the contrary, I meant there's no Reaper master in the IT interpretation. The cycle just happens. Like evolution.SubAstris wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.SubAstris wrote...
If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?
If true, this would undoubtedly have to be explained in the EC if it turns out that IT is true, since it is clearly foreshadowing a Catalyst-like character
Although it is heavily implied in the narrative that there is a sentient force behind it all
Zabbo wrote...
Ash's attitude towards aliens certainly suggests that she'd be popular in Cerberus circles.
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