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[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

[SubAstris]

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

No comment on actual points, just slagging off the man. Nice

[MaximizedAction]

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

A save bet.

[HellishFiend]

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

Seems to be a safe assumption in most cases. 

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Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 08:07 .

[FellishBeast]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I actually heard someone speculate that the Catalyst is actually Sovereign. Sounds ridiculous, but they said that when he was weakened by Saren's defeat, he could have quickly uploaded himself to the Citadel to save a part of himself. This doesn't really make sense, cause I don't think Reapers function like AI's, but I wouldn't complain about meeting my old chum

Could be the reason why the Reapers didn't take the Citadel, either, cause Sovereign had it under control. Indoctrinating the people, keeping them docile and such.

Anyways, silly idea, but I thought it would be a cool twist

That would be quite a twist.  Not sure if they could pull it off believably, but it would be awesome just to hear Sovereigns voice again, if nothing else. 

It would blow my puny, mortal mind.

[byne]

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

Smiley faces and the Catalyst should never be used in the same sentence.

Why the unsubstantiated hate for it?

Assuming the endings are literal, the Catalyst came in and completely ruined the entire trilogy in the span of 10 minutes. My hate for him is completely substantiated.

Modifié par byne, 17 juin 2012 - 08:08 .

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

Seems to be a safe assumption in most cases. 

edit: 

Want some cereal?

[Sero303]

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I actually heard someone speculate that the Catalyst is actually Sovereign. Sounds ridiculous, but they said that when he was weakened by Saren's defeat, he could have quickly uploaded himself to the Citadel to save a part of himself. This doesn't really make sense, cause I don't think Reapers function like AI's, but I wouldn't complain about meeting my old chum

Could be the reason why the Reapers didn't take the Citadel, either, cause Sovereign had it under control. Indoctrinating the people, keeping them docile and such.

Anyways, silly idea, but I thought it would be a cool twist

That would be quite a twist.  Not sure if they could pull it off believably, but it would be awesome just to hear Sovereigns voice again, if nothing else. 

Honestly that is a pretty good twist in the story,... soveriegn was (is / would be) the opposite of shepard so to speak and being defeated by shepard and forced "live" within the citadel, hiding, waiting, could translate into something or imprisonment. Furious and seekign revenge he "indoctrinates" shepard into not destroying the reapers... I like it ...

[nightcobra]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

Seems to be a safe assumption in most cases. 

edit: 

Want some cereal?

don't make me use my sharpened toothbrush:ph34r:

Modifié par nightcobra8928, 17 juin 2012 - 08:09 .

[HellishFiend]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, you're wasting your effort. He'll never concede a rational point whether he agrees with it or not. You might as well type your thoughts into MS Word, because you'd get more valuable feedback from the spelling and grammar checking engine than you're getting from his counterpoints.

I usually subconsciously assume that all users with a Volus avatar are just trolls.

Seems to be a safe assumption in most cases. 

edit: 

Want some cereal?

GIVE THAT BACK!

Modifié par HellishFiend, 17 juin 2012 - 08:10 .

[FellishBeast]

Sero303 wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

I actually heard someone speculate that the Catalyst is actually Sovereign. Sounds ridiculous, but they said that when he was weakened by Saren's defeat, he could have quickly uploaded himself to the Citadel to save a part of himself. This doesn't really make sense, cause I don't think Reapers function like AI's, but I wouldn't complain about meeting my old chum

Could be the reason why the Reapers didn't take the Citadel, either, cause Sovereign had it under control. Indoctrinating the people, keeping them docile and such.

Anyways, silly idea, but I thought it would be a cool twist

That would be quite a twist.  Not sure if they could pull it off believably, but it would be awesome just to hear Sovereigns voice again, if nothing else. 

Honestly that is a pretty good twist in the story,... soveriegn was (is / would be) the opposite of shepard so to speak and being defeated by shepard and forced "live" within the citadel, hiding, waiting, could translate into something or imprisonment. Furious and seekign revenge he "indoctrinates" shepard into not destroying the reapers... I like it ...

Exactly. I highly doubt that wil turn out to be the case, but the mere thought of it makes my blood pump with awesome juice. 

[SubAstris]

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

Smiley faces and the Catalyst should never be used in the same sentence.

Why the unsubstantiated hate for it?

Assuming the endings are literal, the Catalyst came in and completely ruined the entire trilogy in the span of 10 minutes. My hate for him is completely substantiated.

Come on, he wasn't that bad

[paxxton]

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If IT is correct, who is the master of the cycles?[/quote]
Forces of the Universe. Not who but what. The Grand Scheme of Things. This is just how it all works.[/quote]

If true, this would undoubtedly have to be explained in the EC if it turns out that IT is true, since it is clearly foreshadowing a Catalyst-like character

[/quote]
Uhm, on the contrary, I meant there's no Reaper master in the IT interpretation. The cycle just happens. Like evolution.[/quote]

Although it is heavily implied in the narrative that there is a sentient force behind it all

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A way the things happen isn't a character. Vendetta only hypothesizes that there's a master.[/quote]

And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

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In the literal interpretation, yes it is, but in the IT interpretaion the Catalyst is Harbinger masking as a child and we still have to verify Vendetta's hypothesis. [/quote]

True, but it does stand as good evidence for taking the Catalyst as being a real thing against IT, since it fits so perfectly. But if IT is true, BW will have to make a Catalyst-like character anyway to explain what Vendetta is saying

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Vendetta isn't all-knowing. He might have been mistaken. We don't know it yet (in IT).[/quote]

Possibly, although you would have expected that if BW wanted us to doubt the veracity of Vendetta' statement they would have made it clear before we meet the Catalyst and so put in the main game, as a further reason to not trust the Catalyst. The fact that this doesn't happen IMO adds to the evidence that Catalyst in this respect is not lying.

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His presence is only inferred. It may be an incorrect assumption and his presence can be disproved or proved in the EC.

[byne]

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

Smiley faces and the Catalyst should never be used in the same sentence.

Why the unsubstantiated hate for it?

Assuming the endings are literal, the Catalyst came in and completely ruined the entire trilogy in the span of 10 minutes. My hate for him is completely substantiated.

Come on, he wasn't that bad

Yes he was. He has literally no redeeming qualities.

[FellishBeast]

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

Smiley faces and the Catalyst should never be used in the same sentence.

Why the unsubstantiated hate for it?

Assuming the endings are literal, the Catalyst came in and completely ruined the entire trilogy in the span of 10 minutes. My hate for him is completely substantiated.

Come on, he wasn't that bad

DON'T FEED THE TROLLUS.

[nightcobra]

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

byne wrote...

SubAstris wrote...


And his hypothesis is proven correct by the Catalyst

Smiley faces and the Catalyst should never be used in the same sentence.

Why the unsubstantiated hate for it?

Assuming the endings are literal, the Catalyst came in and completely ruined the entire trilogy in the span of 10 minutes. My hate for him is completely substantiated.

Come on, he wasn't that bad

catalyst: for you, the moment where i destroy your whole civilization under the pretense of salvation was the defining and the most horrifying moment of your life.
for me, it was tuesday.

[Nightingale]

HellishFiend wrote...

DrTsoni wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

byne wrote...
That Ash is a deep cover agent working for Cerberus? Because thats totally what I was suggesting.

She seems to pretty conveniently make her way to the Council during the coup, after all. Even Shepard wonders why she was with them, and Ash just makes up some "I was tired of being couped (see what I did there?) up in the hospital" excuse.

Also, wasnt Thane supposed to be keeping an eye on her for us, to make sure she stayed safe? And she someone manages to easily slip away from someone as observant as Thane?

That's what I thought. It actually seems quite plausible. I cant think of anything that directly contradicts it....

You make a good point, but her attitude is consistant throughout. Her excuses are weak, but her hatred for Cerberus and disgust with what they were doing to their own troops is always there. It's not too shocking she would react this way (and compare Shepard to the trooper on Mars), considering how she acted when you meet her on Horizon.
Now that I think of it, I haven't actually completed a playthrough with Kaidan yet...does he react the same?

The VS is always vitriolic and suspicious regardless of your actions or words towards them. Even if you romanced them....

Well, aren't they charming. I figured they were but since I only have ME3 on PS3 at the moment (though I did import ME2 with the comic) I thought maybe it had to do with ME1 interactions I never had but the game seems to think I may have.

byne wrote...
Plus, while they seem a little cold towards you on Earth, they dont really start questioning your loyalties until after you start killing Cerberus troopers, which is just weird.

Plus
Ash said at one point that Shep was the only Cerberus presence on
Horizon while she was stationed there, which is odd, because how the
hell would she know? Its not like undercover Cerberus agents are easily
spotted.

I think it was more that they just weren't expecting Cerberus to be on Mars. Taken at face value, she was questioning Shepard because it was suspicious Cerberus just so happened to be there when you were. But clearly things aren't always meant to be taken at face value...And your second point is incredibly valid. I have no idea how she would possibly know that.

ZerebusPrime wrote...

Continuing my playthrough. Just asked Commander Bailey about the pulse of the war on the Citadel and got this gem in response:

Bailey: You can only live in denial so long.
Shepard: You wake up or you die. Either way...

Oh BioWare. You slay me.

More foreshadowing, me thinks


And since we're on the topic, I agree with byne. As the ending stands, the Catalyst completely ruins how I thought of the rest of the trilogy. Don't get me wrong, I still love it, but if the Catalyst was there the whole time controlling the Reapers, ME1's plot was pointless. ME2 didn't have an incredibly strong plot to rely on to begin with, as it was mostly to set things up (human milkshakes, characters that are pretty much obsolete in ME3 anyway, etc.).

[SubAstris]

paxxton wrote...

His presence is only inferred. It may be an incorrect assumption and his presence can be disproved or proved in the EC.

Completely true, but you have to truthfully ask yourself why this was put in by BW, and if indeed it is incorrect, why isn't there a hint of it being incorrect shown in the game at all

[Xavendithas]

Has anyone made a list of the odd sounds that can be heard on the Normandy throughout the game? I'm playing with the music turned off for my current run through the game was just curious.

As of right now I've heard the footsteps up in the commander's cabin, and the laughter that can be heard in different sections of the 3rd deck.

I'm just trying to get an idea of what I should be listening for in relation to what point of the story I'm at.

[Ctoagu]

Can anyone tell me if their own Shepard starts hyperventilating for the rest of the game once you get to Sanctuary? I never noticed that until now.

Modifié par Ctoagu, 17 juin 2012 - 08:26 .

[paxxton]

SubAstris wrote...

paxxton wrote...

His presence is only inferred. It may be an incorrect assumption and his presence can be disproved or proved in the EC.

Completely true, but you have to truthfully ask yourself why this was put in by BW, and if indeed it is incorrect, why isn't there a hint of it being incorrect shown in the game at all

It was put there to trick people into believing that Starchild was in fact that master so he had the power to stop the cycle. And that he gave you the choice. Basically, to make the player succumb to indoctrination more easily.

There's no hint because the game isn't over yet (the EC).

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 08:35 .

[TSA_383]

Quick thought - we must be pretty close to EC release, since they've been playtesting single-player material on the 7th of June and Gamble/Other bioware people keep complaining about QA and bugtesting... the QA/fixing lark always comes once the software's finished...

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

Quick thought - we must be pretty close to EC release, since they've been playtesting single-player material on the 7th of June and Gamble/Other bioware people keep complaining about QA and bugtesting... the QA/fixing lark always comes once the software's finished...

NO. It comes before the devs start to develop the program.  jk

Modifié par paxxton, 17 juin 2012 - 08:40 .

[HellishFiend]

 Yeah, but its unlikely they'll release it before comic-con. But then again, who knows, they may surprise us. I dont mind because I have plenty of videos I can work on while we're waiting. 

[SubAstris]

paxxton wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

paxxton wrote...

His presence is only inferred. It may be an incorrect assumption and his presence can be disproved or proved in the EC.

Completely true, but you have to truthfully ask yourself why this was put in by BW, and if indeed it is incorrect, why isn't there a hint of it being incorrect shown in the game at all

It was put there to trick people into believing that Starchild was in fact that master so he had the power to stop the cycle. And that he gave you the choice. Basically, to make the player succumb to indoctrination more easily.

There's no hint because the game isn't over yet (the EC).

Put there by whom exactly? 

But you would expect a hint if the data was faulty in the actual game ending, especially since it could add more evidence to the belief that the ending was false.