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[BatmanTurian]

TSA_383 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

this shodiswe guy is really getting on my nerves, comparing our methodical analysis to religion. This drives me up the wall, especially since, as a Deist, I am an agnostic atheist and I take nothing on faith. I rely on facts and analysis.

It really feels like projection when they call us a cult and a religion and compare us to the Catholic Church. No offense to believers, but I find it inflammatory.

Just try to remember how much fun it'll be if/when they're proved wrong.
Unfortunately, I suspect many of the trolls won't hang around for my gloating <_<

Or, alternately, people like Ieldra and Jtav will completely verbally explode on the forums and figuratively /wrists

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 19 juin 2012 - 08:58 .

[Andromidius]

TSA_383 wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

this shodiswe guy is really getting on my nerves, comparing our methodical analysis to religion. This drives me up the wall, especially since, as a Deist, I am an agnostic atheist and I take nothing on faith. I rely on facts and analysis.

It really feels like projection when they call us a cult and a religion and compare us to the Catholic Church. No offense to believers, but I find it inflammatory.

Just try to remember how much fun it'll be if/when they're proved wrong.
Unfortunately, I suspect many of the trolls won't hang around for my gloating <_<

i just take pleasure in pressing that Report button and writing 'antagonistic troll looking to start an argument'.

And occasionally making a sharp comment throwing stuff back in their faces.

[masster blaster]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

HagarIshay wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

According to IT, he is just making this up as he goes along, which is why it's circular. Shepard is just nodding along as if it sounds perfectly logical, which is what victims do in the last stages of indoctrination before they fully succumb. They find themselves agreeing even though the logic makes no sense.

The real reason Reapers kill us is to produce more of themselves. As EDI said, they are selfish and wish only for self-preservation. They only see us as vermin, tools of war, food, and construction matter.

So the catalyst is telling Shepard the synthetics/organics logic, for what? Is it to buy time for the indoctrination to sink in?

No it is too fool Shepard. Destroy is essentially the uncorrupted part of Shepards mind according to IT, by picking destroy you reject the Reapers and break free. This is supported by the fact taht just about every good character in the game has a line of dialogue telling you to destroy the Reapers.

But the Catalyst aka the Reapers dont want that and paint Destroy as bad by making it the option where you accoding to them sacrifice the most, in the form of EDI/Geth/Technology.

On the other hand Control, aka TIM´s choice (who ended up Indoctrinated) is painted in a better light and Synthesis, Saren´s Choice (who also was Indoctrinated) is painted as the ultimate solution, something that ends the problem once and for all.

But the last two are traps. They are the Reapers philosiphy as shown by their two Indoctrinated servants we fought, Saren and TIM. These choices will lead to Indoctrination so the catalyst tries to make Shepard pick them by amking them appear reasonable.

And your right. If Shepard gives into Control or Synthesis Shepard has alredy lost the fight, and if you look at control it's the only ending where the Citadle lives and that's what bugs me. WHY do this, but the only thing I can come up with is Shepard is a Reaper now.

[FellishBeast]

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

[Vox Draco]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Or, alternately, people like Ieldra and Jtav will completely verbally explode on the forums and figuratively /wrists

Not that many people would be around to witness that if IT was confirmed, they would all rather play the game again, or the series...*sigh* damn I want to play ME again...

[Nightingale]

Eryri wrote...

I was just watching Clevernoob's video and something struck me. Just after Shepard begins his run to the beam, you receive 400XP and some paragon points. You get a couple more paragon points during the radio conversation with Anderson during the walk down the body filled corridor on the citadel.

Why does the game award you these if it is effectively over?
There's no more enemies to fight, unless you count the three husketeers and Marauder Shields and that's not a proper fight as only your pistol is working, so why bother giving you points which you might use to level up?

All your powers are disabled, so these xp points just seem, well pointless. Were they planning post ending dlc where we could use these (fingers crossed)?

I think it's probably for New Game+

Turbo_J wrote...

Ha. Blast from the past.

ME1: Eden Prime Debrief

Anderson: "We don't know what information was stored in that beacon. Lost Prothean technology, blueprints for some ancient weapon of mass destruction... Whatever it was Saren took it..."

A
thought planted in Sheps subconcious 3 years ago? I can't see it being
literal forshadowing. Or maybe Anderson has a crystal ball somewhere.

Wow. How on earth did I miss that? I just started a new playthrough of ME1 and everything.

BatmanTurian wrote...
" We know you want to destroy us" He has a slip of the tongue and reveals himself to be a reaper.

"
You can destroy all synthetic life if you want"  IF YOU WANT meaning it
won't necessarily happen. You could destroy synthetic life without even
bothering with the reapers. He phrases things in very open,
manipulative language like a con artist

" Or do you think you can
control us " again, telling us himself that he is a reaper. Not only
that but we just got done telling TIM that control of the
reapers is impossible, yet now the Catalysts says we can do it because
they were already controlling TIM so he couldn't do it. It's fishy as
hell.

"Synthesis
is the pinnicle of evolution. " Yeah, great. Except Soveriegn told us
that Reapers believe the pinnicle of evolution was a Reaper.

Exactly this. Not to mention the fact that when he says "or do you think you can control us" and tells you that TIM couldn't because they already controlled him, he never says that you can control them and that they're not controlling you.

On a completely unrelated note...Do I even want to know what estebanus's link is?

[BatmanTurian]

EpyonX3 wrote...

Anyone see this video yet? Pretty interesting.

All this proves is that the eccentric volus is indocrinated and trying to dig up a reaper artifact. Or something worse, like Zhentil that might be able to be made functional again and used by the Reapers.

[Earthborn_Shepard]

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

[TSA_383]

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

[Ageless Face]

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

No it is too fool Shepard. Destroy is essentially the uncorrupted part of Shepards mind according to IT, by picking destroy you reject the Reapers and break free. This is supported by the fact taht just about every good character in the game has a line of dialogue telling you to destroy the Reapers.

But the Catalyst aka the Reapers dont want that and paint Destroy as bad by making it the option where you accoding to them sacrifice the most, in the form of EDI/Geth/Technology.

On the other hand Control, aka TIM´s choice (who ended up Indoctrinated) is painted in a better light and Synthesis, Saren´s Choice (who also was Indoctrinated) is painted as the ultimate solution, something that ends the problem once and for all.

But the last two are traps. They are the Reapers philosiphy as shown by their two Indoctrinated servants we fought, Saren and TIM. These choices will lead to Indoctrination so the catalyst tries to make Shepard pick them by amking them appear reasonable.

Oh... I think I get it. That can make sense. 


Thanks for the answers, everyone.

[BatmanTurian]

Vox Draco wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Or, alternately, people like Ieldra and Jtav will completely verbally explode on the forums and figuratively /wrists

Not that many people would be around to witness that if IT was confirmed, they would all rather play the game again, or the series...*sigh* damn I want to play ME again...

No they believe the literal endings and Ieldra has created a whole head canon around why Synthesis is the garden of eden of Transhumanism. It will be a mess and they will have complete breakdowns. I predict a full forum lockdown within 24 hours.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 19 juin 2012 - 09:08 .

[Eryri]

DrTsoni wrote...

Eryri wrote...

I was just watching Clevernoob's video and something struck me. Just after Shepard begins his run to the beam, you receive 400XP and some paragon points. You get a couple more paragon points during the radio conversation with Anderson during the walk down the body filled corridor on the citadel.

Why does the game award you these if it is effectively over?
There's no more enemies to fight, unless you count the three husketeers and Marauder Shields and that's not a proper fight as only your pistol is working, so why bother giving you points which you might use to level up?

All your powers are disabled, so these xp points just seem, well pointless. Were they planning post ending dlc where we could use these (fingers crossed)?

I think it's probably for New Game+

Ah. Thinking about it you're probably right. Darn, I thought I might have found something almost useful there. 

[Andromidius]

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Bleh, stop linking that.  Its unpleasent.

[FellishBeast]

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<

[BatmanTurian]

HagarIshay wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

No it is too fool Shepard. Destroy is essentially the uncorrupted part of Shepards mind according to IT, by picking destroy you reject the Reapers and break free. This is supported by the fact taht just about every good character in the game has a line of dialogue telling you to destroy the Reapers.

But the Catalyst aka the Reapers dont want that and paint Destroy as bad by making it the option where you accoding to them sacrifice the most, in the form of EDI/Geth/Technology.

On the other hand Control, aka TIM´s choice (who ended up Indoctrinated) is painted in a better light and Synthesis, Saren´s Choice (who also was Indoctrinated) is painted as the ultimate solution, something that ends the problem once and for all.

But the last two are traps. They are the Reapers philosiphy as shown by their two Indoctrinated servants we fought, Saren and TIM. These choices will lead to Indoctrination so the catalyst tries to make Shepard pick them by amking them appear reasonable.

Oh... I think I get it. That can make sense. 


Thanks for the answers, everyone.

You're welcome. We are always ready to give honest answers to respectful inquirerers.

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<

Give EDI the black suit and it's not even noticable.

[MaximizedAction]

masster blaster wrote...

Sorry but this disregard's what you were talking about. But why did Bioware have the citadle stay hole in Control it doesn't make sense unless they are making Shepard into a Reaper, and Synthesis is just a way for all Organics to be under there control.

We can also see Shepard desolving in the Control ending.
The Citadel staying whole (as do the Relays) probably represents that the Reapers 'won'. In the context of Catalyst's explaination it means, they abide in the same form, they have before. The only difference that Shepard is promised to play, is that command to stop attacking.
Well, and Synthesis is just what the Reapers, according to Sovereign, see as a fact that, by merging with them, there's no difference anymore, so you can basically call everything Reaper now. So, they won by definition in Synthesis too, but in a much more efficient way:
They don't need to do anything anymore. No race to 'go all cylce' on their ass, no 'threat' so no one to control anymore, so no Citadel needed, no Relays needed, since those were the Reapers' tools to control the ways organics' evolve in.

paxxton wrote...
Maybe that Shepard's dream is becoming decohesive.

See, here you're already using that Shepard is dreeming. I want to stay much more basic and use this pic to show that something's fishy about that scene, if we assume it to be real.

Human eyes don't see white light that way naturally. Computer monitors, however, show it that way.

So, what I'm claiming is that this shows, that here the camera is not representing human eyes, but synthetic, or, Reapers.

[FellishBeast]

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<

Give EDI the black suit and it's not even noticable.

It's non-existent if she's NAKED. FFS.

Modifié par FellishBeast, 19 juin 2012 - 09:11 .

[BatmanTurian]

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

Never watch Slenderman videos then. Especially not TribeTwelve. God help you if you do if you are that sensitive.

[estebanus]

Completely off-topic, but I found this really funny internetgame called "Happy wheels." Does anyone know it?

Anyway, here's a link, if you want to try it out!

http://www.totaljerk...appy_wheels.php

[FellishBeast]

BatmanTurian wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

Never watch Slenderman videos then. Especially not TribeTwelve. God help you if you do if you are that sensitive.

It's all about MarbleHornets, brah. 

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<

Give EDI the black suit and it's not even noticable.

It's non-existent if she's NAKED. FFS.

It's actually not non-existent. It's still there, just not as noticable.

[byne]

estebanus wrote...

Completely off-topic, but I found this really funny internetgame called "Happy wheels." Does anyone know it?

Anyway, here's a link, if you want to try it out!

http://www.totaljerk...appy_wheels.php

I only know of Happy Wheels due to the Rage Quit of Happy Wheels.

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

Never watch Slenderman videos then. Especially not TribeTwelve. God help you if you do if you are that sensitive.

It's all about MarbleHornets, brah. 

TribeTwelve is better. MarbleHornets is 20 minutes of boring, 5 minutes of Alex being a d*** and maybe 2 mins of Slendy at most.

Modifié par BatmanTurian, 19 juin 2012 - 09:14 .

[byne]

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:

Any new finds??

Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg

Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<

Give EDI the black suit and it's not even noticable.

It's non-existent if she's NAKED. FFS.

It's actually not non-existent. It's still there, just not as noticable.

Well, it isnt a ****** if she's naked, if you know what I mean.