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[FellishBeast]

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

[paxxton]

nightcobra8928 wrote...

 even if we were to take the endings at face value, the "shepard lives" in the destroy ending is an impossibility.

there we were, we picked the choice, equipped the gun, pressed the ****ing trigger and then we blew the citadel sky ****ing hiiiigh!

in me2, we had armor, shields and the explosion was small scale when compared to this ball of fire in me3.

also we have no armor, no shields, we're weakened and no breather helmet.

possibility of survival: 0% 
 
and yet, here we are alive and breathing in that scene.

It could actually be Vancouver where Shepard wakes up. I know it's sunny there when the Reapers arrive but look how London looks. The same could have happened in Vancouver while Shepard was unconscious.

[SubAstris]

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

God, I knew SubAstris would come into this thread and the first thing out of his mouth when looking at the infrasonic video would be " PTSD". God, you are so predictable, SA.

Even when shown compelling evidence, You go purposefully obtuse, ignore the evidence, and just end up looking like you're in denial. This is why I don't have debates with you anymore. You ignore whatever's in front of you and refuse to concede evidence.

I am debating the evidence, not ignoring it, just because I don't agree with some of the conclusions made doesn't mean I am actively evading it. You better have a look at my comments again if you truly think I have evaded the evidence. Your definition of "compelling" must be different to mine. Feel free to say where I have gone so desperately wrong.

Furthermore, I don't even remember bringing up "PTSD", I'm pretty sure it was someone else

Yeah it was Raistlin. Apologies.

However, your answer to this evidence, which is tangible, ( we can see the results, where it happens, why it happens, how much more work would be involved to create it despite players never going to hear it) is speculations about the kid based on a misinterpretation of the Final Hours app. It's a weak counterpoint and an example of your inability to concede and judge evidence based on its merits.

A misinterpretation? How so exactll?

Kid is the representitive of earth. You can't say Bioware lied about the game, then believe some random thing about the kid that they also said. We can't pick and choose when Bioware is telling the truth which is why we use evidence from the game.  We know the kid is more than a representive of Earth. Why else would the Catalyst take its form to manipulate your emotions?

Point is, Infrasonic noise that we wouldn't even be able to play on our speakers was put into the game in places related to reapers and possible indoctrination. Infrasonic noise, which is silent, is what is used by Reapers in their Indoctrination. That's solid.

Where exactly did I say BW lied about the game, and even if I did, what makes you think that everything they said is a lie? Why in that case even believe they are making an EC?

I think the Catalyst used the kid image because: 1) He is familiar 2) He is a fairly "neutral" character in the respect that we don't really know his backstory or allegiance, he is "the representation of people on Earth". As this "neutral" character, he is thus able to deliver his information in a way which he can be heard and not prejudiced, because tbh what he says is shocking and not really that nice to hear. I think I would have found it odd if someone like Anderson was the form adopted by the Catalyst, mainly because he is such a big character, while the Catalyst needs to find his own niche and character within the story. IMO The Catalyst operates as a messenger-like character, resolving the plot at the end, not convincingly but nonetheless he does it, instead of extending it.
. (In fact you can quite reasonably make the argument that the Catalyst, if he is an agent of indoctrination, would against work itself because it would remind Shepard of all the atrocities and deaths, including the child's, at the hands of the Reapers, thus strengthening his resolve to destroy them)

As for the infrasounds, I have very little knowledge when it comes to music in games, how they are created etc, and have no idea if it is common in other games as well. It would be interesting if it could be shown that whenever the Reapers or apparent signs of indoctrination come about, such as all through the dream sequence and all through the ending sequence. Instead what I appear to see, is people showing evidence for infrasound at a time when there are big noises on the screen anyway, which seems far from conclusive

[estebanus]

Ok, that viedo is hilarious!

[Andromidius]

MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh by the way did you all know there is a cure for ADIS know and I am not making this up. Some guy in Switzerland got cured of aids and it's actually support to have been a cure for cancer.

That is great news! Now, if that procedure actually works, in the medical, scientific sense, then I hope it's better than all previous claims of having found cures.


@topic:


So, no one is actually finding that strange? Nothing? Everything fine with that, cameras always work that way, our eyes are like prisms and we see white light in red green blue?

Rather keep talking about flash games an banshee camel-toes?

It is very interesting.  Just not sure what to make of it.

There's no way such a thing could happen by accident?  And I'm assuming the photos haven't been tampered with at all?

That's just bizzare if nothing else...

[HellishFiend]

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, I'm behind on the thread since I'm working on the video, but I just realized something that I had to share. I'm still at the conceptualizing and storyboarding phase of my video, and mulling over subplots and themes (please PM me any ideas you have or post in the discussion board thread!), and I realized something about the Mordin/Genophage/Salarian/Krogan arc.

Which theme does that subplot arc fall under?

Control vs Freedom.

Salarians basically used Control on the Krogan, causing a massively depressing and regrettable storyline arc for the Krogan.

Now look at Mordin and the Salarians.

Mordin in ME2 is a character of deep insight and morals. One could say he symbolizes the better judgement of the organic perspective against the concept of Synthesis at some points, and the better judgement of the Freedom of growth over the Control of uplifting races.

Now look at ME3. The Salarians are continuing to make mistakes, trying to uplift races, only to have the Yahg literally burst out of their cages and wreak havoc. The Dalatrass is a complete tool. Now Mordin? He represents the voice of conscience for the Salarians, and sacrifices himself in the name of Freedom over Control.

That is some DEEP and subtle symbolism, there, folks. Blows my mind.

Reposting for new page. Good read!  Anyway, back to work.... 

[nightcobra]

paxxton wrote...

nightcobra8928 wrote...

 even if we were to take the endings at face value, the "shepard lives" in the destroy ending is an impossibility.

there we were, we picked the choice, equipped the gun, pressed the ****ing trigger and then we blew the citadel sky ****ing hiiiigh!

in me2, we had armor, shields and the explosion was small scale when compared to this ball of fire in me3.

also we have no armor, no shields, we're weakened and no breather helmet.

possibility of survival: 0% 
 
and yet, here we are alive and breathing in that scene.

It could actually be Vancouver where Shepard wakes up. I know it's sunny there when the Reapers arrive but look how London looks. The same could have happened in Vancouver while Shepard was unconscious.

edited the link to what is supposed to be.:innocent:

[FellishBeast]

MaximizedAction wrote...

Rather keep talking about flash games an banshee camel-toes?

Not at all...but I have no idea what you're talking about up there.

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

Never watch Slenderman videos then. Especially not TribeTwelve. God help you if you do if you are that sensitive.

It's all about MarbleHornets, brah. 

TribeTwelve is better. MarbleHornets is 20 minutes of boring, 5 minutes of Alex being a d*** and maybe 2 mins of Slendy at most.

*facepalm*
oy vey...

I only give honest opinions. I watched MarbleHornets first and kind of liked it. Still follow it. But TribeTwelve is just more satisfying.

[MaximizedAction]

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, I'm behind on the thread since I'm working on the video, but I just realized something that I had to share. I'm still at the conceptualizing and storyboarding phase of my video, and mulling over subplots and themes (please PM me any ideas you have or post in the discussion board thread!), and I realized something about the Mordin/Genophage/Salarian/Krogan arc.

Which theme does that subplot arc fall under?

Control vs Freedom.

Salarians basically used Control on the Krogan, causing a massively depressing and regrettable storyline arc for the Krogan.

Now look at Mordin and the Salarians.

Mordin in ME2 is a character of deep insight and morals. One could say he symbolizes the better judgement of the organic perspective against the concept of Synthesis at some points, and the better judgement of the Freedom of growth over the Control of uplifting races.

Now look at ME3. The Salarians are continuing to make mistakes, trying to uplift races, only to have the Yahg literally burst out of their cages and wreak havoc. The Dalatrass is a complete tool. Now Mordin? He represents the voice of conscience for the Salarians, and sacrifices himself in the name of Freedom over Control.

That is some DEEP and subtle symbolism, there, folks. Blows my mind.

Reposting for new page. Good read!  Anyway, back to work.... 

And it involves an elevator. Great symbolism, indeed.

[paxxton]

MaximizedAction wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh by the way did you all know there is a cure for ADIS know and I am not making this up. Some guy in Switzerland got cured of aids and it's actually support to have been a cure for cancer.

That is great news! Now, if that procedure actually works, in the medical, scientific sense, then I hope it's better than all previous claims of having found cures.


@topic:


So, no one is actually finding that strange? Nothing? Everything fine with that, cameras always work that way, our eyes are like prisms and we see white light in red green blue?

Rather keep talking about flash games an banshee camel-toes?

I posted an answer earlier that maybe Shepard's dream is becoming decoherent at that point.

Modifié par paxxton, 19 juin 2012 - 09:39 .

[TSA_383]

masster blaster wrote...

Oh by the way did you all know there is a cure for ADIS know and I am not making this up. Some guy in Switzerland got cured of aids and it's actually support to have been a cure for cancer.

Link?
I work in a pharmaceutical research consultancy and I'd be very very surprised if this is legit since I've not heard about it at all

Want to know what's sad though?
A company I did some work for a couple of years back developed a radioactive implant, that had the potential to cure ALL solid tumors - they tested it in patients with terminal liver cancer and had a 97% survival rate.

But, the regulatory burden for introducing such a device was enormous, and having spent about 400 million euros trying to get the thing approved through the european medicines agency, they folded, and people continue to die as a result.

It's sickening, it really is.

(Here's hoping my NDA was rendered void when the company collapsed )

[HellishFiend]

MaximizedAction wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

HellishFiend wrote...

Guys, I'm behind on the thread since I'm working on the video, but I just realized something that I had to share. I'm still at the conceptualizing and storyboarding phase of my video, and mulling over subplots and themes (please PM me any ideas you have or post in the discussion board thread!), and I realized something about the Mordin/Genophage/Salarian/Krogan arc.

Which theme does that subplot arc fall under?

Control vs Freedom.

Salarians basically used Control on the Krogan, causing a massively depressing and regrettable storyline arc for the Krogan.

Now look at Mordin and the Salarians.

Mordin in ME2 is a character of deep insight and morals. One could say he symbolizes the better judgement of the organic perspective against the concept of Synthesis at some points, and the better judgement of the Freedom of growth over the Control of uplifting races.

Now look at ME3. The Salarians are continuing to make mistakes, trying to uplift races, only to have the Yahg literally burst out of their cages and wreak havoc. The Dalatrass is a complete tool. Now Mordin? He represents the voice of conscience for the Salarians, and sacrifices himself in the name of Freedom over Control.

That is some DEEP and subtle symbolism, there, folks. Blows my mind.

Reposting for new page. Good read!  Anyway, back to work.... 

And it involves an elevator. Great symbolism, indeed.

Indeed, and the absolutely best part about it?

"I MADE A MISTAKE!"

When do you hear that line? If you pick Renegade option, encouraging Control.

Mind blown. 

Modifié par HellishFiend, 19 juin 2012 - 09:37 .

[Andromidius]

TSA_383 wrote...
(Here's hoping my NDA was rendered void when the company collapsed )

Considering we don't know who you really are, who you worked for, or if you're actually telling the truth (no offense, but we all know how the internet works ), I think you're safe!

[FellishBeast]

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

Just wanted to say, after the screamer-storm a few hours ago I'm now in my usual state of post-scare-anxiousness, expecting monsters behind everything. Great.

Never watch Slenderman videos then. Especially not TribeTwelve. God help you if you do if you are that sensitive.

It's all about MarbleHornets, brah. 

TribeTwelve is better. MarbleHornets is 20 minutes of boring, 5 minutes of Alex being a d*** and maybe 2 mins of Slendy at most.

*facepalm*
oy vey...

I only give honest opinions. I watched MarbleHornets first and kind of liked it. Still follow it. But TribeTwelve is just more satisfying.

I follow MH, TT, and EMH. I'm actually friends with Adam Rosner (Noah Maxwell) on FB and he's a really cool guy. But the acting in TT is just atrocious. MH isn't much better, but the whole package it gives, and its sense of realism and Lovecraftian horror, I like it the most. Not to mention it's the original.

But yeah, Adam does some awesome stuff with his Observer videos and the special effects. I've watched a few of his livestreams. So don't get me wrong, I do like and respect TT. It's just the dialogue sounds so scripted. That's why I love EMH. They are so natural it's scary. It helps when you're playing yourself...Noah has referred to himself as "Adam" multiple times by accident x]

Edit: Okay, no more off-topic for me. You and your opinions need not be bothered by my sorry hide any longer! LONG LIVE THE SLENDERVERSE!

Modifié par FellishBeast, 19 juin 2012 - 09:42 .

[BatmanTurian]

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

God, I knew SubAstris would come into this thread and the first thing out of his mouth when looking at the infrasonic video would be " PTSD". God, you are so predictable, SA.

Even when shown compelling evidence, You go purposefully obtuse, ignore the evidence, and just end up looking like you're in denial. This is why I don't have debates with you anymore. You ignore whatever's in front of you and refuse to concede evidence.

I am debating the evidence, not ignoring it, just because I don't agree with some of the conclusions made doesn't mean I am actively evading it. You better have a look at my comments again if you truly think I have evaded the evidence. Your definition of "compelling" must be different to mine. Feel free to say where I have gone so desperately wrong.

Furthermore, I don't even remember bringing up "PTSD", I'm pretty sure it was someone else

Yeah it was Raistlin. Apologies.

However, your answer to this evidence, which is tangible, ( we can see the results, where it happens, why it happens, how much more work would be involved to create it despite players never going to hear it) is speculations about the kid based on a misinterpretation of the Final Hours app. It's a weak counterpoint and an example of your inability to concede and judge evidence based on its merits.

A misinterpretation? How so exactll?

Kid is the representitive of earth. You can't say Bioware lied about the game, then believe some random thing about the kid that they also said. We can't pick and choose when Bioware is telling the truth which is why we use evidence from the game.  We know the kid is more than a representive of Earth. Why else would the Catalyst take its form to manipulate your emotions?

Point is, Infrasonic noise that we wouldn't even be able to play on our speakers was put into the game in places related to reapers and possible indoctrination. Infrasonic noise, which is silent, is what is used by Reapers in their Indoctrination. That's solid.

Where exactly did I say BW lied about the game, and even if I did, what makes you think that everything they said is a lie? Why in that case even believe they are making an EC?

I think the Catalyst used the kid image because: 1) He is familiar 2) He is a fairly "neutral" character in the respect that we don't really know his backstory or allegiance, he is "the representation of people on Earth". As this "neutral" character, he is thus able to deliver his information in a way which he can be heard and not prejudiced, because tbh what he says is shocking and not really that nice to hear. I think I would have found it odd if someone like Anderson was the form adopted by the Catalyst, mainly because he is such a big character, while the Catalyst needs to find his own niche and character within the story. IMO The Catalyst operates as a messenger-like character, resolving the plot at the end, not convincingly but nonetheless he does it, instead of extending it.
. (In fact you can quite reasonably make the argument that the Catalyst, if he is an agent of indoctrination, would against work itself because it would remind Shepard of all the atrocities and deaths, including the child's, at the hands of the Reapers, thus strengthening his resolve to destroy them)

As for the infrasounds, I have very little knowledge when it comes to music in games, how they are created etc, and have no idea if it is common in other games as well. It would be interesting if it could be shown that whenever the Reapers or apparent signs of indoctrination come about, such as all through the dream sequence and all through the ending sequence. Instead what I appear to see, is people showing evidence for infrasound at a time when there are big noises on the screen anyway, which seems far from conclusive

Someone want to jump in here? SubAstris gives me an ulcer very quickly. Certainly not intentionally, I'm sure.

[estebanus]

FellishBeast wrote...

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

The reaction of the people here should have been a warning for you...

Modifié par estebanus, 19 juin 2012 - 09:43 .

[BatmanTurian]

FellishBeast wrote...

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

We told you not to do it.

also Estebanus's brother did it, so don't hold Estebanus accountable.

[FellishBeast]

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

God, I knew SubAstris would come into this thread and the first thing out of his mouth when looking at the infrasonic video would be " PTSD". God, you are so predictable, SA.

Even when shown compelling evidence, You go purposefully obtuse, ignore the evidence, and just end up looking like you're in denial. This is why I don't have debates with you anymore. You ignore whatever's in front of you and refuse to concede evidence.

I am debating the evidence, not ignoring it, just because I don't agree with some of the conclusions made doesn't mean I am actively evading it. You better have a look at my comments again if you truly think I have evaded the evidence. Your definition of "compelling" must be different to mine. Feel free to say where I have gone so desperately wrong.

Furthermore, I don't even remember bringing up "PTSD", I'm pretty sure it was someone else

Yeah it was Raistlin. Apologies.

However, your answer to this evidence, which is tangible, ( we can see the results, where it happens, why it happens, how much more work would be involved to create it despite players never going to hear it) is speculations about the kid based on a misinterpretation of the Final Hours app. It's a weak counterpoint and an example of your inability to concede and judge evidence based on its merits.

A misinterpretation? How so exactll?

Kid is the representitive of earth. You can't say Bioware lied about the game, then believe some random thing about the kid that they also said. We can't pick and choose when Bioware is telling the truth which is why we use evidence from the game.  We know the kid is more than a representive of Earth. Why else would the Catalyst take its form to manipulate your emotions?

Point is, Infrasonic noise that we wouldn't even be able to play on our speakers was put into the game in places related to reapers and possible indoctrination. Infrasonic noise, which is silent, is what is used by Reapers in their Indoctrination. That's solid.

Where exactly did I say BW lied about the game, and even if I did, what makes you think that everything they said is a lie? Why in that case even believe they are making an EC?

I think the Catalyst used the kid image because: 1) He is familiar 2) He is a fairly "neutral" character in the respect that we don't really know his backstory or allegiance, he is "the representation of people on Earth". As this "neutral" character, he is thus able to deliver his information in a way which he can be heard and not prejudiced, because tbh what he says is shocking and not really that nice to hear. I think I would have found it odd if someone like Anderson was the form adopted by the Catalyst, mainly because he is such a big character, while the Catalyst needs to find his own niche and character within the story. IMO The Catalyst operates as a messenger-like character, resolving the plot at the end, not convincingly but nonetheless he does it, instead of extending it.
. (In fact you can quite reasonably make the argument that the Catalyst, if he is an agent of indoctrination, would against work itself because it would remind Shepard of all the atrocities and deaths, including the child's, at the hands of the Reapers, thus strengthening his resolve to destroy them)

As for the infrasounds, I have very little knowledge when it comes to music in games, how they are created etc, and have no idea if it is common in other games as well. It would be interesting if it could be shown that whenever the Reapers or apparent signs of indoctrination come about, such as all through the dream sequence and all through the ending sequence. Instead what I appear to see, is people showing evidence for infrasound at a time when there are big noises on the screen anyway, which seems far from conclusive

Someone want to jump in here? SubAstris gives me an ulcer very quickly. Certainly not intentionally, I'm sure.

Nobody likes a devil's advocate, and he most certainly is one. 

[FellishBeast]

estebanus wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

The reaction of the people here should have been a warning for you...

Yeah, b-..bu-...but I-I ha-h-have internet b-balls...

[paxxton]

TSA_383 wrote...

masster blaster wrote...

Oh by the way did you all know there is a cure for ADIS know and I am not making this up. Some guy in Switzerland got cured of aids and it's actually support to have been a cure for cancer.

Link?
I work in a pharmaceutical research consultancy and I'd be very very surprised if this is legit since I've not heard about it at all

Want to know what's sad though?
A company I did some work for a couple of years back developed a radioactive implant, that had the potential to cure ALL solid tumors - they tested it in patients with terminal liver cancer and had a 97% survival rate.

But, the regulatory burden for introducing such a device was enormous, and having spent about 400 million euros trying to get the thing approved through the european medicines agency, they folded, and people continue to die as a result.

It's sickening, it really is.

(Here's hoping my NDA was rendered void when the company collapsed )

This is inexcusable and beyond any comprehension.

[SubAstris]

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

SubAstris wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

God, I knew SubAstris would come into this thread and the first thing out of his mouth when looking at the infrasonic video would be " PTSD". God, you are so predictable, SA.

Even when shown compelling evidence, You go purposefully obtuse, ignore the evidence, and just end up looking like you're in denial. This is why I don't have debates with you anymore. You ignore whatever's in front of you and refuse to concede evidence.

I am debating the evidence, not ignoring it, just because I don't agree with some of the conclusions made doesn't mean I am actively evading it. You better have a look at my comments again if you truly think I have evaded the evidence. Your definition of "compelling" must be different to mine. Feel free to say where I have gone so desperately wrong.

Furthermore, I don't even remember bringing up "PTSD", I'm pretty sure it was someone else

Yeah it was Raistlin. Apologies.

However, your answer to this evidence, which is tangible, ( we can see the results, where it happens, why it happens, how much more work would be involved to create it despite players never going to hear it) is speculations about the kid based on a misinterpretation of the Final Hours app. It's a weak counterpoint and an example of your inability to concede and judge evidence based on its merits.

A misinterpretation? How so exactll?

Kid is the representitive of earth. You can't say Bioware lied about the game, then believe some random thing about the kid that they also said. We can't pick and choose when Bioware is telling the truth which is why we use evidence from the game.  We know the kid is more than a representive of Earth. Why else would the Catalyst take its form to manipulate your emotions?

Point is, Infrasonic noise that we wouldn't even be able to play on our speakers was put into the game in places related to reapers and possible indoctrination. Infrasonic noise, which is silent, is what is used by Reapers in their Indoctrination. That's solid.

Where exactly did I say BW lied about the game, and even if I did, what makes you think that everything they said is a lie? Why in that case even believe they are making an EC?

I think the Catalyst used the kid image because: 1) He is familiar 2) He is a fairly "neutral" character in the respect that we don't really know his backstory or allegiance, he is "the representation of people on Earth". As this "neutral" character, he is thus able to deliver his information in a way which he can be heard and not prejudiced, because tbh what he says is shocking and not really that nice to hear. I think I would have found it odd if someone like Anderson was the form adopted by the Catalyst, mainly because he is such a big character, while the Catalyst needs to find his own niche and character within the story. IMO The Catalyst operates as a messenger-like character, resolving the plot at the end, not convincingly but nonetheless he does it, instead of extending it.
. (In fact you can quite reasonably make the argument that the Catalyst, if he is an agent of indoctrination, would against work itself because it would remind Shepard of all the atrocities and deaths, including the child's, at the hands of the Reapers, thus strengthening his resolve to destroy them)

As for the infrasounds, I have very little knowledge when it comes to music in games, how they are created etc, and have no idea if it is common in other games as well. It would be interesting if it could be shown that whenever the Reapers or apparent signs of indoctrination come about, such as all through the dream sequence and all through the ending sequence. Instead what I appear to see, is people showing evidence for infrasound at a time when there are big noises on the screen anyway, which seems far from conclusive

Someone want to jump in here? SubAstris gives me an ulcer very quickly. Certainly not intentionally, I'm sure.

You seem to be very reluctant to answer. If you don't agree, then simply say "I don't agree", don't just try and slander me instead

[estebanus]

BatmanTurian wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

We told you not to do it.

also Estebanus's brother did it, so don't hold Estebanus accountable.

Well, it's also my fault because I forgot to log myself out when I went to the phone...

[estebanus]

FellishBeast wrote...

estebanus wrote...

FellishBeast wrote...

Okay I searched for this link de la estebanus, and since I have internet balls, I didn't expect anything to affect me. But #@!$# @!#$ #$#$! @ #@!!@#&$^*( (*% $#&*!^#@&!^#%^&*$*(@^!#&*^(@^$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NOT cool.

The reaction of the people here should have been a warning for you...

Yeah, b-..bu-...but I-I ha-h-have internet b-balls...

Not...Anymore...

[Raistlin Majare 1992]

SubAstris wrote...

I think the Catalyst used the kid image because: 1) He is familiar 2) He is a fairly "neutral" character in the respect that we don't really know his backstory or allegiance, he is "the representation of people on Earth". As this "neutral" character, he is thus able to deliver his information in a way which he can be heard and not prejudiced, because tbh what he says is shocking and not really that nice to hear. I think I would have found it odd if someone like Anderson was the form adopted by the Catalyst, mainly because he is such a big character, while the Catalyst needs to find his own niche and character within the story. IMO The Catalyst operates as a messenger-like character, resolving the plot at the end, not convincingly but nonetheless he does it, instead of extending it.
. (In fact you can quite reasonably make the argument that the Catalyst, if he is an agent of indoctrination, would against work itself because it would remind Shepard of all the atrocities and deaths, including the child's, at the hands of the Reapers, thus strengthening his resolve to destroy them)

Dude you did not just call the catalyst a neutral character, really you just did not.

First of a child is not neutral by default, it is innocent. An innocent figure is more liekly to be believed, but it sure as hell is not a "neutral" character. Simply by appearing human you would not asociate it with the Reapers, a deception as we know it is a Reaper or related to them.

Also its entire tone is not neutral at all. It clearly tries to get you away from Destroy y shining it in a negative light and control/synthesis in a positive light. the catalyst is not enutral in any sense of theword.

An automated computer voice laying out the pros and cons of each choice equally and without any emotion in its voice would be neutral, this kid is not. Simply by taking the shape it did it is clearly trying to make sShepard feel something, manipulate him.

In fact on that shape, how did the Catalyst learn of it? Did it watch Shepard from the start of the game, from the Citadel? How? Or did it do deep memory scan (I am pretty sure Shepard was not thinking of the child as he fell uncounscious on the Citadel) to find out?Something like that would completely new to ME, oh wait so is the catalyst.

And then there is its name. Catalyst, a catalyst is something speedinjg up a chemical process without beeing consumed in it or changing...but the Catalyst says it was changed, its entire name is a lie.

Also it would work against the Reapers...had it not been for the image of the boy allready been worked into Shepards head as something he was seeking to protect. It takes the face of something Shepard wanted to protect and that makes Shepard more likely to believe its words (again not neutral at all).

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 19 juin 2012 - 09:47 .