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FellishBeast wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:
Any new finds??
Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg
Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<
Modifié par EpyonX3, 19 juin 2012 - 10:32 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
@SubAstris
Happy now?
Modifié par FellishBeast, 19 juin 2012 - 10:45 .
EpyonX3 wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:
Any new finds??
Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg
Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<
There's no way in my mind I find EDI's cameltoe less appealing than that which is posted above.
I know you may not be saying that but still.
I agree with both. It's supposed to be morally grey, but if you'd been paying any sort of attention, you'd know that Control and Synthesis are both fairly rediculous. And even if they weren't, Shepard's still left to be the galaxy's greatest war criminal. If taken at face value, it's the choice between enslaving an entire sentient race, forcing a complete genetic rewrite of every living being without their consent or the annhilation of a species you may have just helped gain full individuality and sentience.FellishBeast wrote...
masster blaster wrote...
DrTsoni wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
Guys, I'm behind on the thread since I'm working on the video, but I just realized something that I had to share. I'm still at the conceptualizing and storyboarding phase of my video, and mulling over subplots and themes (please PM me any ideas you have or post in the discussion board thread!), and I realized something about the Mordin/Genophage/Salarian/Krogan arc.
Which theme does that subplot arc fall under?
Control vs Freedom.
Salarians basically used Control on the Krogan, causing a massively depressing and regrettable storyline arc for the Krogan.
Now look at Mordin and the Salarians.
Mordin in ME2 is a character of deep insight and morals. One could say he symbolizes the better judgement of the organic perspective against the concept of Synthesis at some points, and the better judgement of the Freedom of growth over the Control of uplifting races.
Now look at ME3. The Salarians are continuing to make mistakes, trying to uplift races, only to have the Yahg literally burst out of their cages and wreak havoc. The Dalatrass is a complete tool. Now Mordin? He represents the voice of conscience for the Salarians, and sacrifices himself in the name of Freedom over Control.
That is some DEEP and subtle symbolism, there, folks. Blows my mind.
Sorry, got distracted by lunch
That actually is a nice catch. The themes of the end were present throughtout most of the game, but I hadn't thought of it like that. It's especially well done when you think that Mordin wants to cure the genophage now because he believes it's wrong, when at the time he altered it he believed that he was doing the right thing, the best choice at the time. Paragon was always doing the "right" thing, or what Shepard believed to be the right thing, anyway. The Control ending is the "paragon" choice and seems to be the best choice: sacrifice yourself to control the Reapers and the Geth/EDI get to live, while everyone else (Reapers excluded, obviously) maintain their individuality and freedom. And, if things get out of control, you could always start the cycle all over again. The same could be said for the genophage; if the Krogan got out of control again, the would have just altered the genophage again/more.
So who's to say that just because it seems to be the right choice now, further down the line Shepard wouldn't think it was a mistake?You know, when s/he ends up realizing it was a Reaper trap and they're not indoctrinated.
Edit: Typo
But that's jsut it Bioware wanted the fans to think which chocies is right because it's intresting to see what people come up with and they needed to know were the fans just playing ME for the action, or for the stroy.
To me, the ending sort of seemed like a test to see if you were paying attention in the previous two games. To me, picking anything other than destroy is just absurd and unjustified based on the premise of the whole series.
FellishBeast wrote...
Is it weird that I wasn't grossed out by that banshee pic? It made sense to me, and wasn't any more revolting than her breasts, which always happen to be what I see zoomed down my scope...<_<
Big Bad wrote...
Yep, a catalyst is something that facilitates a chemical reaction but is not used up or altered in the process.FellishBeast wrote...
Big Bad wrote...
You know, the more I think about it the more I come to believe that the whole catalyst contradicting the definition of his name thing is pretty much just the writers winking at us. The way he says that the crucible changed him is just so specific...I just don't think it could be accidental. Once you get the "joke", it's almost fourth wall-breaking in its obviousness. Of course, many people have pointed this out already, but some earlier posts got me thinking about it again.
To me, this kind of "evidence" is just the most convincing.
I was not a huge fan of biology and chemistry. I'm assuming part of the definition of "catalyst" is that it can't be changed or something along those lines? I know it's not used up in reactions, and that's about it. I think.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 19 juin 2012 - 10:40 .
Or a way to make it easier for Shepard to comprehend the magnitude of his presence.Big Bad wrote...
IT or not, the catalyst's use of the child's appearance is definitely a form of emotional manipulation.
FellishBeast wrote...
Is it weird that I wasn't grossed out by that banshee pic?
Andromidius wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
Is it weird that I wasn't grossed out by that banshee pic?
Weirdly, its the Banshee's face that does it for me. There's something about that angle and expression...
It just scares the living crap out of me.
paxxton wrote...
Or a way to make it easier for Shepard to comprehend the magnitude of his presence.Big Bad wrote...
IT or not, the catalyst's use of the child's appearance is definitely a form of emotional manipulation.
On a humorous side, it was a joke.Big Bad wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Or a way to make it easier for Shepard to comprehend the magnitude of his presence.Big Bad wrote...
IT or not, the catalyst's use of the child's appearance is definitely a form of emotional manipulation.
I am honestly not sure what you mean. The entire game, the child has been a symbol of Shep's fear of failure and dwindling hope. It's almost like he's a giant weight that she has to carry throughout the game. Seeing him at the end is all but guaranteed to form a strong emotional reaction for Shepard. And since the child's form is obviously chosen on purpose, the reaction it provokes is certainly a form of manipulation.
A reference to what the Reapers are saying about themselves.
Modifié par paxxton, 19 juin 2012 - 10:59 .
paxxton wrote...
On a humorous side, it was a joke.Big Bad wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Or a way to make it easier for Shepard to comprehend the magnitude of his presence.Big Bad wrote...
IT or not, the catalyst's use of the child's appearance is definitely a form of emotional manipulation.
I am honestly not sure what you mean. The entire game, the child has been a symbol of Shep's fear of failure and dwindling hope. It's almost like he's a giant weight that she has to carry throughout the game. Seeing him at the end is all but guaranteed to form a strong emotional reaction for Shepard. And since the child's form is obviously chosen on purpose, the reaction it provokes is certainly a form of manipulation.
On a more serious side, the being that showed itself to Shepard is supposedly millions of years of evolution before him and decided to choose a form that could help Shepard understand what he is dealing with.
MaximizedAction wrote...
Since when did we have an RGB effect in cinematics?
Note: this is not to be confused with lense effects we see for example during the Leaving Earth cinematic.
It would have been too formal.FellishBeast wrote...
paxxton wrote...
On a humorous side, it was a joke.Big Bad wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Or a way to make it easier for Shepard to comprehend the magnitude of his presence.Big Bad wrote...
IT or not, the catalyst's use of the child's appearance is definitely a form of emotional manipulation.
I am honestly not sure what you mean. The entire game, the child has been a symbol of Shep's fear of failure and dwindling hope. It's almost like he's a giant weight that she has to carry throughout the game. Seeing him at the end is all but guaranteed to form a strong emotional reaction for Shepard. And since the child's form is obviously chosen on purpose, the reaction it provokes is certainly a form of manipulation.
On a more serious side, the being that showed itself to Shepard is supposedly millions of years of evolution before him and decided to choose a form that could help Shepard understand what he is dealing with.
Then he should have chosen Avina, imo.
And wouldn't have conveyed as much emotions.
Modifié par paxxton, 19 juin 2012 - 11:17 .
FellishBeast wrote...
EpyonX3 wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
FellishBeast wrote...
What's up, speculators? I'm gonna ask that question...you know...this one:
Any new finds??
Why yes;
http://i644.photobuc...ket/forreal.jpg
Not as bad as EDI's cameltoe <_<
There's no way in my mind I find EDI's cameltoe less appealing than that which is posted above.
I know you may not be saying that but still.
EDI is a robot with no genitalia, yet when you put clothes on her, she has a cameltoe. "Artistic integrity."
Is it weird that I wasn't grossed out by that banshee pic? It made sense to me, and wasn't any more revolting than her breasts, which always happen to be what I see zoomed down my scope...<_<
BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
byne wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
What was it Zaeed said? 'Its a waste of time appealing to a volus' better nature.'
Modifié par paxxton, 19 juin 2012 - 11:52 .
BatmanTurian wrote...
byne wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
What was it Zaeed said? 'Its a waste of time appealing to a volus' better nature.'
Goads me into answering him then nothing. just nothing. <_<
Just don't summon the spider man's rage from Seival's thread.BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
paxxton wrote...
LOL. This completely changes the main revelations from Mass Effect 1's story:
BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
Andromidius wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
byne wrote...
BatmanTurian wrote...
how much you want to bet he moved on and I wasted my time answering that damn volus?
What was it Zaeed said? 'Its a waste of time appealing to a volus' better nature.'
Goads me into answering him then nothing. just nothing. <_<
Either that or your logic hit him so hard he's run off to hide. I really can't see him being able to say anything in responce.
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