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Was the Ending a Hallucination? - Indoctrination Theory Mark II!


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TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Isn't he actually talking with a very American/Canadian accent?

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Raistlin Majare 1992

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TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Maybe he was born in london but moved to US/Canada while still very young? :D

Modifié par Raistlin Majare 1992, 21 juin 2012 - 12:00 .


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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Maybe he was born in london but moved to US/Canada while still very young? :D


Probably, otherwise he would say "I'm from London" or "I live in London". I guess "I was born in London" means he actually left London very young.

Modifié par Corik, 21 juin 2012 - 12:09 .


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Isn't he actually talking with a very American/Canadian accent?


It is explained in mass effect: revelation why Anderson doesn't have a british accent. It's because of the influence american TV shows has on children at that point, or something along those lines.

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I have a question about the infrasonic sound. Can we totally exclude the possibilty that it could be part of the ingame soundfiles by accident? Is this something that could be found in many other games' soundfiles?

Modifié par olshi, 21 juin 2012 - 12:30 .


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estebanus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Isn't he actually talking with a very American/Canadian accent?


It is explained in mass effect: revelation why Anderson doesn't have a british accent. It's because of the influence american TV shows has on children at that point, or something along those lines.



Doesn't matter...Keith David is awesome. Period.

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As long as people are talking about the soundtrack...this has become official ME 3 song:



If they find a way to get this onto the OST that would be awesome!

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Destructorlio wrote...

But the 'final goodbye' scenes with your crew were so touching, so well done... I'd be hesitant to embrace any theory that denied the reality of them.


Necromancing from a few pages back, but I thought I'd just say this.

That's the beauty of the hallucination concept - moments like that would still have happened.  At least potentially.  We're not into full blown lala land quite yet, its just creeping into the conscience bit by bit.

Lokanaiya wrote...

Edit: Also, if Cronos station was
either a total hallucination or just partly one, it would explain why no
one else noticed Kai Leng after he was defeated while he was sneaking
up on Shepard in the chair.


And also why Shepard can
punch through swords.  I've had many violent fantasies of me doing
something that should technically be impossible - why should badass
Shepard be any different? :P

Modifié par Andromidius, 21 juin 2012 - 12:40 .


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TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Tell me about it. My ex was born and raised in London, only moved to America when she was 23. She had one of the most recognizable accents I've ever heard. I want to move there just to get more of it. Not a hint of it in Anderson. (Turn)Coates doesn't even have much of an accent, if any.

Estebanus brings up a good point though. Realistic one too. British TV? ... Five minutes of Bean made me sympathize with the Reapers.

olshi wrote...

I have a question about the infrasonic sound. Can we totally exclude the possibilty that it could be part of the ingame soundfiles by accident? Is this something that could be found in many other games' soundfiles?


Yes, accidental bleedthrough was ruled out.

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HagarIshay wrote...

Okay, sorry I'm pestering you with questions, but I have another one.

We hear Dr.Kenson in Arrival talk about doubts. maybe what they are doing is wrong, they don't know the reapers, the reapers might be right. The talk of someone in the process of indoctrination.

Someone told me a while ago the in the end, when Shepard is talking with the squadmates, s/he seem to have doubts whether they will win.Yet I never heard Shepard saying that maybe the reapers are right or something.

So, are those doubts of "will we win the war?" are enough to say indoctrination is there?


Probably because she was a scientist who has had no other contact with the Reapers.  They played on her psyche, throwing doubt into the mixture.  Convincing her that she didn't know enough about them to sacrifice thousands of lives to stop them.

Shepard is a soldier (regardless of class, its her profession), and has seen and fought Reapers on multiple occasions.  Shepard knows first hand what they are and what they will do.  So the only doubt they can throw at Shepard is 'can I win?'  'Should I fight?' never comes into Shepard's mind.

Corik wrote...

Probably, otherwise he would say "I'm from
London" or "I live in London". I guess "I was born in London" means he
actually left London very young.


Yeah.  I was born in Hanover, Germany.  I am, however, English.  My accent is unmistakably English, with a hint of westcountry.

If Anderson was from a military family it is very possible his parents were American and stationed in London.  Just like mine were in Germany.

Modifié par Andromidius, 21 juin 2012 - 12:49 .


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D.Sharrah wrote...

As long as people are talking about the soundtrack...this has become official ME 3 song:



If they find a way to get this onto the OST that would be awesome!


No, this awesome piece of music should be played at the official Bioware site when EC is officially announced, and also featured in a short yet enlightening trailer showing a lot of key-points in the series that lead to Shepard's indoctrination and end with a glimpse of hope...

THAT would be a comeback, THAT could reignite the franchise...and also would be a nice nod to the fans as well

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D.Sharrah wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Isn't he actually talking with a very American/Canadian accent?


It is explained in mass effect: revelation why Anderson doesn't have a british accent. It's because of the influence american TV shows has on children at that point, or something along those lines.



Doesn't matter...Keith David is awesome. Period.

Agreed.

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D.Sharrah wrote...

estebanus wrote...

Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

TSA_383 wrote...

ivenoidea wrote...

Holy ****. There i go on holidays once and this thread grows from 750 to 946.

I know it's a lot to ask but was there anything major that happened in the last week?


Infrasound starting from page 770 for about 120 pages ;)
Asides that, not a lot really :lol:

Also, is it just me or does anderson have about the least convincing london accent ever?
As someone who lived in london for 12 years I find it deeply unconvincing :P


Isn't he actually talking with a very American/Canadian accent?


It is explained in mass effect: revelation why Anderson doesn't have a british accent. It's because of the influence american TV shows has on children at that point, or something along those lines.



Doesn't matter...Keith David is awesome. Period.


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Vox Draco wrote...

D.Sharrah wrote...

As long as people are talking about the soundtrack...this has become official ME 3 song:



If they find a way to get this onto the OST that would be awesome!


No, this awesome piece of music should be played at the official Bioware site when EC is officially announced, and also featured in a short yet enlightening trailer showing a lot of key-points in the series that lead to Shepard's indoctrination and end with a glimpse of hope...

THAT would be a comeback, THAT could reignite the franchise...and also would be a nice nod to the fans as well


All I know is that I got the free mp3 of the song...and while I am on forum I just listen to it repeat over and over and over...

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D.Sharrah wrote...
All I know is that I got the free mp3 of the song...and while I am on forum I just listen to it repeat over and over and over...


*sigh* Yes, I stumbled across it by accident when reading the results of the last great ME-poll...since then I can't get it out of my head...Bioware should give her some credits for that piece of work...

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I was born in London...

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That's in England, you know?

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lex0r11 wrote...

That's in England, you know?

There is also one in canada...

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estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

That's in England, you know?

There is also one in canada...


Anderson was born in London.

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So nothing's happening... Slow-mo in full tilt... And it's not even a weekend.

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 01:48 .


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lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

That's in England, you know?

There is also one in canada...


Anderson was born in London.

No, he wasn't. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 02:14 .


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TJBartlemus wrote...

So BioWare said they aren't changing the endings...so what if all this time they were making a 4th choice? What would you want for that choice that hasn't been given before? (Like destroy synthesis or control) Personally I would want a choice where Shepard looks at the beam, sees that it is a trap, and decides to leave.


Someone, a literalist of all people, came up with an awesome 4th and fifth choice. Basically, it's a paragon and renegade interrupt showing up on the screen at the same time and you pick one of them and tell the kid off and your sheer charisma or your sheer menace makes the starkid and reapers leave the galaxy. This is of course in a literal translation but could work for IT if the last or first line was " Okay, look, I know it's you in there, Harbinger" as first line for Paragon and " By the way, I knew it was you, the whole damn time, Harbinger! You're not as incomprehensible and mysterious as you think you are, amateur." as the last line for Renegade

Paragon example thread here.

Renegade example thread here.

These are actually very well-written and in-character for Shepard. So yeah, those could be 4th and 5th choices that people would want (who didn't want to tell that little sh!t off except people like Ieldra who believed his BS?) that could be part of breaking indoctrination. Tell off Starbinger, then choose destroy.

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Andromidius wrote...

And also why Shepard can
punch through swords.  I've had many violent fantasies of me doing
something that should technically be impossible - why should badass
Shepard be any different? :P


When Shepard was rebuild in ME2 by Cerberus there werea lot of implants and such involved in his rebuilding which left him/her with physical capabilities beyond a normal human. It is shown throughout ME2 in the fact that Shepard can use the M300 Claymore Shotgun which is described as breaking a mans arm with its recoil and he beats up the Shadowbroker, a Yagh, with his bare hands.

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lex0r11 wrote...

estebanus wrote...

lex0r11 wrote...

That's in England, you know?

There is also one in canada...


Anderson was born in London.



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