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#23701
paxxton

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

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You know what the coolest thing is? We'll be flying via military aircraft! I've never done that before!

WOW! Just check beforehand if someone didn't enlist you for the battlefield cause in this case you may land somewhere else. Posted Image And don't press the fire button while on board.

Will you fly the plane?



Not me, no. I'm not a pilot, nor am I military. yet. One of my sisters' soldiers will be flying us there.

Nice! Military aircraft, that trip wil be fast. Just don't let your brother troll the pilot with surprise links while in the air. Posted Image

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know what the coolest thing is? We'll be flying via military aircraft! I've never done that before!

WOW! Just check beforehand if someone didn't enlist you for the battlefield cause in this case you may land somewhere else. Posted Image And don't press the fire button while on board.

Will you fly the plane?



Not me, no. I'm not a pilot, nor am I military. yet. One of my sisters' soldiers will be flying us there.

Nice! Just don't let your brother troll the pilot with surprise links while in the air. Posted Image



Oh boy! That would be a sight to see! Although, it will probably also be the last thing I'll ever see...

#23703
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HellishFiend wrote...

Hush up you guys or slenderman might accidentally my upcoming video.

That would be funny actually but it would totally ruin the credibility of your video. ^_^

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

You know what the coolest thing is? We'll be flying via military aircraft! I've never done that before!

WOW! Just check beforehand if someone didn't enlist you for the battlefield cause in this case you may land somewhere else. Posted Image And don't press the fire button while on board.

Will you fly the plane?



Not me, no. I'm not a pilot, nor am I military. yet. One of my sisters' soldiers will be flying us there.

Nice! Just don't let your brother troll the pilot with surprise links while in the air. Posted Image



Oh boy! That would be a sight to see! Although, it will probably also be the last thing I'll ever see...


And you wouldn't ever have a chance to meet the Slenderman. Posted Image

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Rifneno wrote...

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Did I miss something in the last 24 hours?
Also, I had a dream featuring Slenderman tonight. o.O Not cool man, not cool.


I warned you people. But you didn't believe me. Why didn't you believe me?



You know the saying "curiosity killed the cat", right?
Also, pandora's box.

If a person explicitly tells you not to do it, it will only make it more attractive to do. In the end, curiosity will overcome you, and you will do it, even if you deep inside yourself know that it's wrong.

It's just basic human nature.


True story.  That's why people end up looking at things like the anatomically correct banshee.

...  Seriously Bioware, what the hell,


What the hell, indeed.
http://t0.gstatic.co...EM281Rcs3bLIAHj

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@ estebanus: And you wouuldn't ever have a chance to meet the Slenderman.



And I wouldn't be able to prove BatmanTurian that hiding in a cardboard box may save you from the slenderman!

Come to think of it, maybe I should just shoot my brother with a tranquilizer gun.

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I have a feeling Slenderman will be the enemy in ME4.

Also, I didn't even watch the vids. And still dreamed of him.

THERE IS NO PROTECTION

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I have a feeling Slenderman will be the enemy in ME4.

Also, I didn't even watch the vids. And still dreamed of him.

THERE IS NO PROTECTION



Cardboard boxes. you'll see!

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estebanus wrote...

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@ estebanus: And you wouuldn't ever have a chance to meet the Slenderman.



And I wouldn't be able to prove BatmanTurian that hiding in a cardboard box may save you from the slenderman!

Come to think of it, maybe I should just shoot my brother with a tranquilizer gun.

I suppose a word would be sufficient. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 02:48 .


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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I have a feeling Slenderman will be the enemy in ME4.

Also, I didn't even watch the vids. And still dreamed of him.

THERE IS NO PROTECTION

Geez, man. well, i mentioned him. you've probably seen pictures online. that's probably enough for your brain to pull it out.
Not to mention he's the embodiment of instinctual predatory terror leftover from when we were little rats running around dinosaur feet.

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Earthborn_Shepard wrote...

I have a feeling Slenderman will be the enemy in ME4.

Also, I didn't even watch the vids. And still dreamed of him.

THERE IS NO PROTECTION

LOL. I slept perfectly tonight.

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paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@ estebanus: And you wouuldn't ever have a chance to meet the Slenderman.



And I wouldn't be able to prove BatmanTurian that hiding in a cardboard box may save you from the slenderman!

Come to think of it, maybe I should just shoot my brother with a tranquilizer gun.

I suppose a word would be sufficient. Posted Image

What word?

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no but seriously, my post. What do you guys think?
http://social.biowar...32/947#12674857

TJBartlemus wrote...

So BioWare said they aren't changing the endings...so what if all this time they were making a 4th choice? What would you want for that choice that hasn't been given before? (Like destroy synthesis or control) Personally
I would want a choice where Shepard looks at the beam, sees that it is atrap, and decides to leave.


Someone, a literalist of all people, came up with an awesome 4th and fifth choice. Basically, it's a paragon and renegade interrupt showing up on the screen at the same time and you pick one of them and tell the kid off and your sheer charisma or your sheer menace makes the starkid and reapers leave the galaxy. This is of course in a literal translation but could work for IT if the last or first line was " Okay, look, I know it's you in there, Harbinger" as first line for Paragon and " By the way, I knew it was you, the whole damn time, Harbinger! You're not as incomprehensible and mysterious as you think you are, amateur." as the last line for Renegade

Paragon example thread here.

Renegade example thread here.

Theseare actually very well-written and in-character for Shepard. So yeah, those could be 4th and 5th choices that people would want (who didn't want to tell that little sh!t off except people like Ieldra who believed his BS?) that could be part of breaking indoctrination. Tell off Starbinger, then choose destroy.

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estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

estebanus wrote...

paxxton wrote...

@ estebanus: And you wouuldn't ever have a chance to meet the Slenderman.



And I wouldn't be able to prove BatmanTurian that hiding in a cardboard box may save you from the slenderman!

Come to think of it, maybe I should just shoot my brother with a tranquilizer gun.

I suppose a word would be sufficient. Posted Image

What word?

Ask him not to send links to the cockpit. Posted Image

Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 02:54 .


#23715
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Anyway, back to playing Metal Gear Solid 4 (or watching it)!

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How about getting back to topic guys ?
Remember that the white flash screen was thought to be a dream transition ?
I'm not so sure anymore, I've just seen a video where someone was firing a Reaper Blackstar, and before the explosion happened, there was also this white "dream transition" screen.

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SirLugash wrote...

How about getting back to topic guys ?
Remember that the white flash screen was thought to be a dream transition ?
I'm not so sure anymore, I've just seen a video where someone was firing a Reaper Blackstar, and before the explosion happened, there was also this white "dream transition" screen.

A link?

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Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I chose destroy, but not at all light minded and confident. When the Catalyst was telling me the choices I got all panicky and thought,
"wtf? What? Wait, that's not so easy. I it's so natural for me to control the Reapers, then why make TIM the antagonist? And Synthesis? How can I force something on every organic in the galaxy? And where are my squadmates, why was Anderson's jacket so clean, and why...hey, you know what: go right because that's why you got here in the first place....and theeere we go."


Same I also became confused when presented with the choices, but i calmed myself and thought things through.

Control was out of the question from the start for me, nothing, not even some little star kid was gonna convince me that was a good idea, not with all we had seen.

Synthesis was more tempting, but Legion saved me there. What was it he had told us about the Geth in ME2 and what we saw in ME3. They wanted to make their own future, not have it given to them, like Synthesis would for every species in the galaxy.

It might seem hypocritical to then Destroy them instead as Destroy does if taken face value, but one thought lead to the next and I remembered what Shepard said about not sacrificing the soul of our species.

So in the end i choose destroy because of Legion and the Geth...quite a powerful moment for me even if the ending was bull****.

I was confused too when I saw those choices presented to me, plus I couldn't think straight since I stayed up till 5 in the morning to see the ending lol.  But I chose destroy because something told me it was the best choice, and that the star brat was lying.  It almost felt like an instinct.

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@Hellish - How are things going with the choice/subplot/theme thing going? Was there any consensus reached on that the major themes/subplots are? The ones that I could think made me realize just how much overlap there is...if time was not a factor, and you tried to do a video to cover every angle, I think that you could end up driving yourself crazy with trying to cover just how much everything is interwoven. Let us know if there is anything more that you need help with.

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sometimes I feel like I get ignored unless I start off-topic stuff accidentally.... :unsure:

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Arashi08 wrote...

Raistlin Majare 1992 wrote...

MaximizedAction wrote...

I chose destroy, but not at all light minded and confident. When the Catalyst was telling me the choices I got all panicky and thought,
"wtf? What? Wait, that's not so easy. I it's so natural for me to control the Reapers, then why make TIM the antagonist? And Synthesis? How can I force something on every organic in the galaxy? And where are my squadmates, why was Anderson's jacket so clean, and why...hey, you know what: go right because that's why you got here in the first place....and theeere we go."


Same I also became confused when presented with the choices, but i calmed myself and thought things through.

Control was out of the question from the start for me, nothing, not even some little star kid was gonna convince me that was a good idea, not with all we had seen.

Synthesis was more tempting, but Legion saved me there. What was it he had told us about the Geth in ME2 and what we saw in ME3. They wanted to make their own future, not have it given to them, like Synthesis would for every species in the galaxy.

It might seem hypocritical to then Destroy them instead as Destroy does if taken face value, but one thought lead to the next and I remembered what Shepard said about not sacrificing the soul of our species.

So in the end i choose destroy because of Legion and the Geth...quite a powerful moment for me even if the ending was bull****.

I was confused too when I saw those choices presented to me, plus I couldn't think straight since I stayed up till 5 in the morning to see the ending lol.  But I chose destroy because something told me it was the best choice, and that the star brat was lying.  It almost felt like an instinct.


Ashamed to admit it...but destroy was the last choice that I made.  My first choice was synthesis (spoiler free)...and then knowing that I wanted to see all of the choices, next I choose control.  But I did not feel satisfied until I choose destroy - and that was w/o even getting the "Breath Scene" the first time...

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BatmanTurian wrote...

sometimes I feel like I get ignored unless I start off-topic stuff accidentally.... :unsure:

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paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

sometimes I feel like I get ignored unless I start off-topic stuff accidentally.... :unsure:

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I'm not a troll here. I add things to the discussion.

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BatmanTurian wrote...

no but seriously, my post. What do you guys think?
http://social.biowar...32/947#12674857

TJBartlemus wrote...

So BioWare said they aren't changing the endings...so what if all this time they were making a 4th choice? What would you want for that choice that hasn't been given before? (Like destroy synthesis or control) Personally
I would want a choice where Shepard looks at the beam, sees that it is atrap, and decides to leave.


Someone, a literalist of all people, came up with an awesome 4th and fifth choice. Basically, it's a paragon and renegade interrupt showing up on the screen at the same time and you pick one of them and tell the kid off and your sheer charisma or your sheer menace makes the starkid and reapers leave the galaxy. This is of course in a literal translation but could work for IT if the last or first line was " Okay, look, I know it's you in there, Harbinger" as first line for Paragon and " By the way, I knew it was you, the whole damn time, Harbinger! You're not as incomprehensible and mysterious as you think you are, amateur." as the last line for Renegade

Paragon example thread here.

Renegade example thread here.

Theseare actually very well-written and in-character for Shepard. So yeah, those could be 4th and 5th choices that people would want (who didn't want to tell that little sh!t off except people like Ieldra who believed his BS?) that could be part of breaking indoctrination. Tell off Starbinger, then choose destroy.


That sounds pretty cool. :lol: But I like mine better...he just walks away from the beam, and the normandy shoots a laser into harbingers face. When everythings done they go to Rio or the ending planet, pull up a chair and a beer on the sand and hang out with everyone or their LI. (I am actually surprised cause that quote was from last night!!!)

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BatmanTurian wrote...

paxxton wrote...

BatmanTurian wrote...

sometimes I feel like I get ignored unless I start off-topic stuff accidentally.... :unsure:

Fate of Trolls? Posted Image


I'm not a troll here. I add things to the discussion.

That was a joke. Posted Image