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TSA_383 wrote...
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I just found something interesting.
Remember the chimes at the end?
I just found a use of them in the game - it plays when you take the VS back onto the normandy after they've been injured.
Can't work out why it plays though, it seems out of place for the scene.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8itl5a
Modifié par HellishFiend, 21 juin 2012 - 04:09 .
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
So... here's another one you guys can pick apart: Why does Shepard only see a set of certain people when he makes his choice? Its always Joker, Anderson, and either Liara or the VS. Its only the LIs from the first game. What about the other LI's? Is this a glitch? I don't see how it corrolates with the IT if its not.
Although gunslinger_ruiz was very involved in this topic, I'm not sure why they only included ME1 LI as the romance flashback. Some said, that it wouldn't have been that big a deal to make a 2 sec. scene of e.g. Tali on Rannoch.
So, there must be a reason, but it's certainly not to be found in the naming of the sound files. Because it is also titled flashback_rom (or rom_flashback, don't remember).
Well, TSA was on to something we never really looked into. He discovered that same weird tone/note from the flashback when you pick up the injured VS and take them onto the Normandy. So its possible those flashbacks are linked in some way to some particular pattern of events or emotions. If we could find the matching tones/notes for anderson and joker, we could probably figure it out.
HellishFiend wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
Video link for this:TSA_383 wrote...
I just found something interesting.
Remember the chimes at the end?
I just found a use of them in the game - it plays when you take the VS back onto the normandy after they've been injured.
Can't work out why it plays though, it seems out of place for the scene.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8itl5a
Here is the post for those that missed it.
The person running is Jack and it looks just like a placeholder which never got replaced.Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
Andromidius wrote...
Da heck...
Okay, doing the 'tutorial' on ME3 right now and I'm walking around the pipes outside the HQ building. I look down and see people running in fear...
Only they are all identical. All relatively low-quality animations. All sliding to the side as they are running.
I know its a small detail, but...wut?
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
So... here's another one you guys can pick apart: Why does Shepard only see a set of certain people when he makes his choice? Its always Joker, Anderson, and either Liara or the VS. Its only the LIs from the first game. What about the other LI's? Is this a glitch? I don't see how it corrolates with the IT if its not.
Although gunslinger_ruiz was very involved in this topic, I'm not sure why they only included ME1 LI as the romance flashback. Some said, that it wouldn't have been that big a deal to make a 2 sec. scene of e.g. Tali on Rannoch.
So, there must be a reason, but it's certainly not to be found in the naming of the sound files. Because it is also titled flashback_rom (or rom_flashback, don't remember).
Well, TSA was on to something we never really looked into. He discovered that same weird tone/note from the flashback when you pick up the injured VS and take them onto the Normandy. So its possible those flashbacks are linked in some way to some particular pattern of events or emotions. If we could find the matching tones/notes for anderson and joker, we could probably figure it out.
If that's the case...
VS - Mars
Liara - Gift
Joker - post Thessia arguement
Anderson - "I'm proud of you son"
???????????
MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
Snip...
Snip...
Snip...
If that's the case...
VS - Mars
Liara - Gift
Joker - post Thessia arguement
Anderson - "I'm proud of you son"
???????????
Don't know if this is where you know that it can be heard, but I watched the Liara's gift sequence on youtube and I didn't hear the exact sound from the flashback, only short and very quiet high notes.
But, I noticed something: I think that when that red shockwave approaches them there are some reaaaly low frequencies present. Hm...
"Thank you...for everything.... Now let's do what has to be done"
Those London squad dialogs are all so damn ambiguous and apocalyptic. Isn't Shepard the kind of guy who never really cared about odds? Shepard is sooo not himself during those final missions, it hurts to think about it.
Well, I might have oversimplified the things a bit. There's nothing after the breath scene yet because they didn't have anything or didn't want to disclose it. It can happen that despite them saying "no new ending" Bioware doesn't consider the current cliffhanger a real ending so they might be planning on simply adding to the current story. Besides, who said they can't change their plans on making a trilogy and extend the story for another 3 games.D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Reposting to preserve knowledge of my thoughts on ME3 for future generations!
These are slightly recompiled versions of my posts.paxxton wrote yesterday...
Very analytical video:
Makes me wonder if BioWare could have sc**w Deception (as I heard), couldn't they have also done it with ME3? The video presents some valid points about the gameplay design choices made for ME3. It doesn't talk about the story or IT.
The biggest problem from the dev point of view is the gameplay of the first level. The video presents it very well comparing the choices made for ME3 with those made for ME2. Although I didn't dislike the first level (in fact, I loved it when the demo was released back in February) I understand that for some people (especially the newcomers) it could have been disorienting to be given the full-fledged gameplay mechanics from the start and be expected to play like a pro.
EDIT: Although, when I think of it right now. The Vancouver level is rather easy and the player is guided through some aspects of combat. I especially mean shooting husks clawing their way to the roof and killing those four down the ladder. Then when you meet the 2 soldiers, the combat becomes slightly more engaging but still it's quite hard to die there if you know when to hide behind the rubble. The main point here is that the level doesn't involve moving from cover to cover which does its job well in terms of familiarizing the player with the combat system. Furthermore, on Mars you get to know how to use biotics though in my opinion they should have made it slightly more thorough if you are a newcomer.paxxton wrote yesterday...
I propose a controversial idea. As we all know Mass Effect 3 is supposed to end Shepard/Reaper story arc. If this is really the case, the ending should be viewed as a figurative wall. There's nothing beyond and you can't go through. You can only go back from the ending. That's why the game reverts to before the attack on Cronos Station. You still have access to the whole Galaxy and can do DLC. In this interpretation there's simply nothing beyond because the story is over at that point. An empty void. Not even a void. Nothing. Still the DLC can rewrite Cronos and London. No new ending is valid in this case if BioWare doesn't consider the current ending the ending.
Watched the vid...maybe he made some valid points...but once he started to use vulgarity for the sake of using vulgarity he lost my attention...
As for the second post...in a way it makes sense. In a way it doesn't...if the bolded is true, it would make it awfully hard for them to come up with a legitimate way to continue the universe in a new game - unless its a prequel of sorts. And while I think that fans would be happy with that, it does paint them into a corner. I guess what I am trying to say that the ending has to lead into "something", even if that story is untold at this point or the universe dies. Hope that makes sense.
Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 04:39 .
D.Sharrah wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
Snip...
Snip...
Snip...
If that's the case...
VS - Mars
Liara - Gift
Joker - post Thessia arguement
Anderson - "I'm proud of you son"
???????????
Don't know if this is where you know that it can be heard, but I watched the Liara's gift sequence on youtube and I didn't hear the exact sound from the flashback, only short and very quiet high notes.
But, I noticed something: I think that when that red shockwave approaches them there are some reaaaly low frequencies present. Hm...
"Thank you...for everything.... Now let's do what has to be done"
Those London squad dialogs are all so damn ambiguous and apocalyptic. Isn't Shepard the kind of guy who never really cared about odds? Shepard is sooo not himself during those final missions, it hurts to think about it.
Yeah...had no clue if those would be the events or not, hence the question marks. But given the VS example, thought that might be appropriate places to look...
I always thought that the London goodbyes were very somber...the only one that I ever felt where my Shep was in character was with Miranda (its the only one where I feel like Shep comes across as having hope).
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
Snip...
Snip...
Snip...
If that's the case...
VS - Mars
Liara - Gift
Joker - post Thessia arguement
Anderson - "I'm proud of you son"
???????????
Don't know if this is where you know that it can be heard, but I watched the Liara's gift sequence on youtube and I didn't hear the exact sound from the flashback, only short and very quiet high notes.
But, I noticed something: I think that when that red shockwave approaches them there are some reaaaly low frequencies present. Hm...
"Thank you...for everything.... Now let's do what has to be done"
Those London squad dialogs are all so damn ambiguous and apocalyptic. Isn't Shepard the kind of guy who never really cared about odds? Shepard is sooo not himself during those final missions, it hurts to think about it.
Yeah...had no clue if those would be the events or not, hence the question marks. But given the VS example, thought that might be appropriate places to look...
I always thought that the London goodbyes were very somber...the only one that I ever felt where my Shep was in character was with Miranda (its the only one where I feel like Shep comes across as having hope).
Ok. But it's definitely a good ansatz to start looking for similar moments like in case of the VS.
Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 04:49 .
paxxton wrote...
Snip...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
MaximizedAction wrote...
Makrys wrote...
Snip...
Snip...
Snip...
If that's the case...
VS - Mars
Liara - Gift
Joker - post Thessia arguement
Anderson - "I'm proud of you son"
???????????
Don't know if this is where you know that it can be heard, but I watched the Liara's gift sequence on youtube and I didn't hear the exact sound from the flashback, only short and very quiet high notes.
But, I noticed something: I think that when that red shockwave approaches them there are some reaaaly low frequencies present. Hm...
"Thank you...for everything.... Now let's do what has to be done"
Those London squad dialogs are all so damn ambiguous and apocalyptic. Isn't Shepard the kind of guy who never really cared about odds? Shepard is sooo not himself during those final missions, it hurts to think about it.
Yeah...had no clue if those would be the events or not, hence the question marks. But given the VS example, thought that might be appropriate places to look...
I always thought that the London goodbyes were very somber...the only one that I ever felt where my Shep was in character was with Miranda (its the only one where I feel like Shep comes across as having hope).
Ok. But it's definitely a good ansatz to start looking for similar moments like in case of the VS.
D.Sharrah wrote...
HellishFiend wrote...
TSA_383 wrote...
Video link for this:TSA_383 wrote...
I just found something interesting.
Remember the chimes at the end?
I just found a use of them in the game - it plays when you take the VS back onto the normandy after they've been injured.
Can't work out why it plays though, it seems out of place for the scene.
http://www.sendspace.com/file/8itl5a
Here is the post for those that missed it.
Any way someone can post this in a different way? I haven't listened to it yet b/c of all the steps I would have to do download that file...and I am lazy...hides in the shame corner...underneath the shame box...
They aren't but the people are all Shepard's allies the longest.D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Snip...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
That being said...are the flashbacks all ME 1 scenes? I really need to watch them again...
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
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wtf? Does the word "ansatz" exist in English? Because that's German.
Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 05:01 .
paxxton wrote...
They aren't but the people are all Shepard's allies the longest.D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Snip...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
That being said...are the flashbacks all ME 1 scenes? I really need to watch them again...
Modifié par D.Sharrah, 21 juin 2012 - 04:58 .
D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
They aren't but the people are all Shepard's allies the longest.D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Snip...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
That being said...are the flashbacks all ME 1 scenes? I really need to watch them again...
Do you know where all the scenes are from then? That might help us to interpert what they mean/how they may relate to IT...
[in Illusive Man's voice] YYEESS!D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
They aren't but the people are all Shepard's allies the longest.D.Sharrah wrote...
paxxton wrote...
Snip...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
That being said...are the flashbacks all ME 1 scenes? I really need to watch them again...
Do you know where all the scenes are from then? That might help us to interpert what they mean/how they may relate to IT...
Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 05:01 .
Yummy! Don't eat all and leave some for us!D.Sharrah wrote...
I'll be back in awhile...I'm gonna go make some protein powder infused peanut butter cookies...don't go and run off multiple pages while I am gone.
Modifié par paxxton, 21 juin 2012 - 05:13 .
Actually, she does end up telling you about them in Mass Effect 2. It's after the Normandy is attacked by the Collectors and abducts the crew. It's how not really that interesting, it tells about how Cerberus works and it's fundings. No revelations of any kind.she has functions that are classified at the time. But you never find out what they are... smilie
Earthborn_Shepard wrote...
wtf? Does the word "ansatz" exist in English? Because that's German.
paxxton wrote...
Those are not romance flashbacks. All those people have one thing in common. They are GUARANTEED TO BE IN THE STORY WITH SHEPARD SINCE ME1.
Modifié par MaximizedAction, 21 juin 2012 - 05:15 .
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